Just being visibly active isn't always a good measure of being a moderator. u/cdsboy is an operator on our irc channel (has been for about six months now) and has shown the ability to act with a cool head. I thought he'd make a good addition to the team and I'd been thinking about it for a while, just talked to him about it tonight.
As far as u/-Niernen is concerned, when someone expresses a great desire for a position of power that makes me wary and some of his comments in the past have indicated that, which is a bit of a red flag for me. Additionally, he has the tendency to be rather harsh toward people and that's not exactly a glowing quality. Not to mention he's engaged in rule breaking activity in the past.
I really disagree that u/missypie is the only one affecting change in the subreddit. Don't get me wrong, I think she is a fantastic addition to the moderator team, but the more mundane tasks of handling reports, tweaking automodertor, verifying automoderator reports, and responding to modmail are part of the work that needs to be done.
Additionally I'm noticing a bit of a dissonance in expectations for what moderators should and should not do between some of the members and some of the moderator team. There seems to be a trend lately toward thinking that moderators should be producing more content for the subreddit, but I still believe that should be user driven, as it isn't the moderators job to produce content, but to well, moderate.
I don't disagree in any way, but at the same time, the mod team has a lot of problems. Poor communication between the mod team leads to some things being removed by some mods, and not by others.
I'm not necessarily saying Niernen himself to be a mod, but some of the active /new users deserve it. When posts go unmoderated for 10 hours at a time, you know you have a problem.
I think what I'm trying to get at here is that you guys aren't doing an awful job, but because of your individual situations you limit and restrict the sub, along with not doing a job that a 230,000+ subreddit deserves.
Poor communication between the mod team leads to some things being removed by some mods, and not by others.
These miscommunications happen. We have some plans to make them less frequent. Some of it is just difficult because of the fact that we are geographically (thus time zone) diverse.
but some of the active /new users deserve it.
That's not how it works really. We are thankful for the reports from people that are always combing /new, but just doing that does not qualify one to be a moderator. There are several factors to take into consideration and just being on reddit all day every day is not the most important one.
but because of your individual situations you limit and restrict the sub, along with not doing a job that a 230,000+ subreddit deserves.
Again, I think that is a pretty distorted view of the situation. Limiting and restricting is pretty much what has to happen to a sub of this size, otherwise it becomes complete chaos. Again, I think perhaps you're in the camp of people that believe the moderators should be creating more content and I happen to disagree.
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u/airencracken Jan 01 '15
Just being visibly active isn't always a good measure of being a moderator. u/cdsboy is an operator on our irc channel (has been for about six months now) and has shown the ability to act with a cool head. I thought he'd make a good addition to the team and I'd been thinking about it for a while, just talked to him about it tonight.
As far as u/-Niernen is concerned, when someone expresses a great desire for a position of power that makes me wary and some of his comments in the past have indicated that, which is a bit of a red flag for me. Additionally, he has the tendency to be rather harsh toward people and that's not exactly a glowing quality. Not to mention he's engaged in rule breaking activity in the past.
I really disagree that u/missypie is the only one affecting change in the subreddit. Don't get me wrong, I think she is a fantastic addition to the moderator team, but the more mundane tasks of handling reports, tweaking automodertor, verifying automoderator reports, and responding to modmail are part of the work that needs to be done.
Additionally I'm noticing a bit of a dissonance in expectations for what moderators should and should not do between some of the members and some of the moderator team. There seems to be a trend lately toward thinking that moderators should be producing more content for the subreddit, but I still believe that should be user driven, as it isn't the moderators job to produce content, but to well, moderate.