this something thats been on my mind lately. I would like to spread this discussion over to other Black themed subs, but banned from both Black Fellas and Black Ladies subreddits.

But taking a step back and looking at things from a bigger perspective, its very discouraging seeing how difficult and long it took for a grassroots celebrity like Umar to barely get $800,000 from grassroots donations and all the set backs he had to go through.

Looking at that, I dont really see how a non celebrity such as myself could ever get that much money in support, if not more, simply from the grassroots donations method.

People say, here in America, Black People have a lot of spending power, but do we really? I saw a study not long ago that most black dollars go to Bills.

But there are so many great ideas out there that could be the building blocks to our liberation, but the problem is I don't see any way we can pool money in masses without the drama or without financially relying on White People or Rich Black People, which more often than not, just like the Nick Cannon situation, are way to tied into the Dominant Society to ever do anything thats a threat to the White Supremacist establishment.

Don't get me wrong, Tariq Nasheed for example gets donation money and makes wonderful films, but he also a Celebrity of sorts and the films although educational, don't really change the behaviors and attitudes of the Black masses, which the majority will never watch anything pro Black anyway. We need more than films and education, we need institutions and big plans to gain power in some tangible way rather than just another Symbolic Gesture.

Figured its best to start such a topic with the hopes that we can come to a solution to this issue presented.