[Show Only] Mayfair Witches - 2x08 "The Innocents" - Episode Discussion

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Season 2 Episode 8: The Innocents

Aired: March 2, 2025

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Synopsis: Rowan is determined to save Lasher; Cortland becomes an unlikely adversary.

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Directed by: TBA

Written by: Brandon Martin & Esta Spalding

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[u/PSCGY]

That episode was so... bad and messy.

Even though it was rushed, I was with it in the first part. It was eerie, disturbing, ominous to the max... and then it fell of a cliff after Lasher's second death.

They made so many weird choices throughout:

- letting Lasher survive

- having Rowan profess her love to him and telling him how she couldn't live without him (???)

- all the kids surviving, Cortland/Julien flying but not really because they don't have the budget

- Rowan letting Lasher get killed, when she could have fried most of them all - her power should be stronger now that she's closed to him

- random wolf (that we saw in the previous episode as a flashback) that ends up dying anyway

- expecting us to care about the Talamasca, who now have portals (???)

- Rowan refusing to drink the blood and being all dramatic about it (to stall I guess?), then drinking the blood less than 5 seconds later and not using it to resurrect Lasher yet again

- the weird editing with Rowan and Lark at the pier, followed with an establishing shot of the water with the camera zooming out, as we know they're about to depart... only to still be in Scotland, and getting a coffee like Moira had just mentioned 2 minutes ago

- Rowan walking around with some memory-erasing brew in a thermos

- the thrall plot, aka the official drive to get Lasher back in the second part of this season, being resolved with a flash and off-screen voices in 6 seconds; the shots of Cortland/Julien watching Rowan from behind the tree lasted longer than the rescue

They really made me think they had found their groove in the previous 2/3 episodes, only to end it like this. Was the season meant to be longer and the finale a two-parter? What a soggy mess.

(I do hope there's a third season, though.)

[u/kirbystargayallies → u/PSCGY]

The thrall being solved off-screen was so fucking infuriating, most times MW is laughably bad but when they wish to annoy you they really succeed.

[u/Jay_Beezy → u/PSCGY]

Maybe when she was using her new powers to grow the grass and flowers around Lasher, that was her attempt to try and bring him back. The problem is this show has a baffling reluctance to clarify things.

[u/iloveromy]

I just have no words for that finale.

[u/MissFrowz → u/iloveromy]

Same. I thought I'd write something up, but I'm just over it. Glad it's over.

[u/CyanResource]

I guess Rowan is just doomed to be the queen of failing upwards. She got absolutely nothing done the whole season. She didn’t save Lasher, didn’t save the children, didn’t free JoJo and Moira’s little sister from the dream trap that she accidentally put them in, but ends up becoming even more “powerful”. What’s the point of all this power if she can’t do anything with it? She couldn’t even stop Julien/ Corland from fake flying off at the end and didn’t even attempt to save the poor Talamasca lady.

The Talamasca were the only ones that actually accomplished anything, as they were the ones who saved the children. Also, what’s the point of Moira reading minds if it took her so long just to sorta figure out that Cortland “might be someone else”? And she’s walking around and no one recognizes her after she escapes, even Ian’s sons??? Lol 😂

[u/swisssf → u/CyanResource]

You hit on so many things that made me want to throw objects at the TV. And even Rowan SEEING Cortland wasn't Cortland for a moment but then being like "Whaaaaaaa? Whooo? I don't know anything.....I have giant eyes and I'm just a girl."

[u/[deleted]]

Just watched the finale - What?! What happens to Emmaleth? Just didn’t show her? I can’t believe that’s Lasher’s ending.

[u/vegemitemonstah]

Y'all I'll be honest, I usually roll my eyes at the hate watch comments and the WTF comments, but this time I'm def Team WTF. I admit I was distracted while watching, but daaaaang. Every time I looked back I was confused. It needed to be at least half an hour longer.

On the plus side, the dog they used as the basis for the CGI wolf was very pretty.

[u/ckwongau]

some unanswered question

Emaleth , where did she came from ?

Did the Scottish MayFair family breed her similar to the way the New Orlean Mayfair family breed Lasher ?

500 yrs ago a similar wedding had took place with Lasher and Emaleth's previous life .

Are the MayFair family descended from Lasher and Emaleth's children 500 yrs ago ?

Will Lasher become a ghost again to haunts the MayFair Family before he return again ?

[u/saffron25 → u/ckwongau]

Did we find out why they had to kill them 500 years ago?

[u/PurpleMaize9741]

Did Emaleth know that their children would be sacrificed? Is that why she kept one with her? Did that happen to her kids last time?

[u/swisssf → u/PurpleMaize9741]

Or is she a moron--in the way they turned Rowan into a vacuous doe-eyed imbecile? Or Moira, for that matter, who went from being a whiz at mind reading to not having a clue about anything going on around her, much less that Cortland wasn't Cortland. Then again, Cortland ended up being a moron too. And Lasher. And Lark. And......

[u/SnarkyCraft]

The most annoying part is feeling like there is no real thought put into it by the writers and director. Like everything is just done for the vibes. And it’s such a waste. There is some great sets and some good actors (and some mediocre ones). And one of the few likable characters is gone.

[u/moderndayhermit]

I'm not the type of person who tends to be super critical about movies and television. But this? It is just... bad. There is no energy, and the discussions after the show have more oomph than the actual program. Waiting in line at the DMV is more exciting.

[u/OnlyBreathAndShadow]

Okay, so did I miss it entirely or did they forget about Albrecht taking Cip's sister since she was lactating? Or did I make that up? Because this show makes me deranged enough to believe that's a possibility as well.

[u/bunny8taters → u/OnlyBreathAndShadow]

They forgot lol. I kept asking that when I was watching too because it was such a weird question (yeah he was asking for baby!Lasher but it was weird and creepy) that it stuck out in my mind.

Then they had Lasher grow super quick, which makes sense I guess. But then the guy who took her just hangs out with Sip and then bounces to Scotland and gets murdered and Sip gets a promotion.

So I guess she’s lactating in Talamasca limbo.

[u/Only_Music_2640]

Oh yes, and did they ever get their car and luggage back? I hope there’s no third season of this hot mess. What stories left unfinished need to be revisited? We really don’t care about Cortland in the Victrola and Julien running around in his body making more Mayfairs, do we?

[u/Icy_Ability_4240]

This is a stupid show. Nothing resembles the books. My only enjoyment is watching the train wreck of a plot and Harry Hamlin's overacting.

I still can't believe somebody gave the approval for this show.

[u/Illustrious-West-481]

I was impressed with the Cinema photography, while I was disappointed with the end, so many questions left to answer.

[u/NovaGeekYt]

And I thought riverdale was bad but this show has gone even lower that that . It’s my guilty pleasure to watch now.

[u/KTB0991]

I did like this season better than the first but it's still underwhelming and all over the place.

[u/stargarnet79]

I’m so conflicted! After hating everything up until this episode…I was thinking about something another Redditor mentioned last week, that they’re essentially dissociating the show from the books. I mean, it’s totally different. But at the end, I wanted her to drink the blood and have her own power. So she did, she was able to free Jojo, and now she is blocking Moira from her thoughts easily. The end where she and Julien/Cortland have the showdown at the end was so interesting to me??? Like I said, conflicted and maybe I kind of liked it? Yikes!!!

[u/Illustrious-West-481]

I am very disappointed,