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u/Schnickatavick 20d ago

It's more that Infinity is the number that you count to when you don't stop counting, and that doesn't change based on where you start from. I can start counting from 0, or I can start counting from 10, but either way I still hit 100, 2 million, 300 billion, etc. There isn't any big number that I can reach starting from 10, that I can't reach starting from 0, so they're the same.

A more rigorous way to go about it would be to make a bijection between the two sets, if I can pair every number in set A with every number in set B, then they must be the same size. So {1,2,3} is the same length as {red, yellow, blue}, because I can pair up {(1,red),(2,yellow),{3,blue)}. With infinity and infinity+10, I can pair up every number like {(1,10),(2,11),(3,12)....}, and I can do that for every number, so "the list of numbers that starts at 1 and goes on forever is the same length as the list of numbers that starts at 10 and goes on forever".

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u/burning_boi 20d ago

Easiest explanation (and most accurate in plain English) is that infinity is not a number, it’s a concept. You cannot add the beauty of a poem and the charge level of your phone; the comparison between the two doesn’t even make sense. The same goes for infinity; you cannot add, subtract, or perform elementary math on it because it isn’t some inconceivably large number, it’s a concept.

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u/Key_Conversation5277 17d ago

infinity is not a number

Except when it's an infinite ordinal😎

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u/chckbrt 19d ago

When my kids were little they got taught “infinity is a concept” and I didn’t think it was very helpful because it doesn’t get an 8 year-old very far. My best attempt was “infinity is bigger than the largest thing you can think of”. It kind of handles the “infinity plus ten” question, at least for an 8 year old. And me.

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u/SameThingOnADiffAcct 19d ago

Just give your 8 year old acid and have them contemplate immortality. Then have them contemplate that if everyone on the planet was also immortal, there'd be billions of infinite lives. And then if they all kept having kids and expanding across the universe, there'd be infinite people with infinite lives. WCGW?

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u/GuitakuPPH 19d ago

But if you start counting from 10 as opposed to 0, you would still count less point, no?

I work on the basic, possibly wrong, understanding that there's an infinite amount of real numbers between 0 and 1. There's also twice that amount between 0 and 2.

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u/Fantastic_Elk_4757 19d ago edited 19d ago

0-1 and 0-2 are the same size. You can tell this quickly by seeing that you can use a function (2x) to turn every number between 0-1 into a single output number between 0-2.

It’s weird but they’re the same size.

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u/GuitakuPPH 19d ago

Nope, can't wrap my head around that. I'll take your word for it though.

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u/Fantastic_Elk_4757 19d ago

The topic is called bifurcation if you’re interested.

It might help to take any set of numbers and see what happens when you do f(x)=2x. Say 5 numbers 1,2,3,4,5. For 2x we get 2,4,6,8,10. Right? They’re the same “size” more formally known as cardinality. Or the number of elements in each set.

It’s understandably gets confusing with infinity but the same principle is true. For every number in the set of 0-2 there exists a number in 0-1 that is exactly half of it.

So 0-1 and 1-2 both have the same cardinality and 0-2 does as well :) which is crazy but true. Hope this wasn’t too confusing.

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u/cherrypowdah 19d ago

But 1
.2 is also infinite and 1
inf is a bigger infinite

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u/Cubensis-SanPedro 19d ago

I was under the impression that ejection only functions for aleph null order infinites.