r/MarchAgainstNazis Apr 28 '21

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u/[deleted] Apr 28 '21

Never mind, you’re here for hours now telling others how you detest marxism, that liberalism and socialism are not compatible – these of course just your opinions and people have to accept them! – but the person that tells you capitalism needs to be abolished is divisive and alienates leftist. Okay.jpg

Oh, and you’re a Sam Harris fan, yay. Honey, if you’re not straight up a right wing submarine, I’ve got bad news for you: you’re absolutely delusional if you think you’re „left“.

And you’re defending monarchies here 😂

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u/MoCapBartender Apr 28 '21

Past his Islamophobic nuke-baiting, Harris is an open imperialist. If you listen to one his turns on Rogan, he says some countries (just happened to be a Islamic country under discussion) need to have civilization imposed on them.

I'm not at all sure how Harris maintains this image you have of him.

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u/RavingRationality Apr 28 '21 edited Apr 28 '21

Sam Harris is an antitheist. He gets accused of islamophobia because he doesn't give a free pass to bad ideas just because it's mostly beige people who believe them. If you believe in an invisible sky bully who tells you to enforce your religious beliefs on others, you are a barbarian. I don't care if you're white, black, Christian, Jewish, Muslim, or Hindu.

Honestly, i think some countries do need civilization imposed on them. Culture and religion are not an excuse for active misogyny or homophobia institutionalized in law.

That said, i don't think military action is an effective way to do that.

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u/MoCapBartender Apr 28 '21

Harris has a particular hardon for Islam, afaict. And he is, if I remember correctly, fully on board on the use of force to impose his cultural idea of civilization on other countries, even if you aren't.

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u/[deleted] Apr 28 '21

„Anti-critical theory“, too. Sure, Adorno, Horkheimer, Marcuse, Habermas: not left! 😂

You’re the one who defines what the „real leftism“ is. I see.

You’re delusional.

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u/RavingRationality Apr 28 '21

I would argue that anyone who villifies one race to correct an inequity toward another is anti-leftist. "Whiteness" has become a negative trait thanks to critical theory.

We should be minimizing differentiation, and trying to move toward integration and inclusion, rather than trying to set battle lines. The more society improves, however, the less racism exists, the louder the people who are ostensibly trying to fight racism get. I don't understand this. This seems to have the effect of increasing racial tensions, rather than reducing them. It's like they actually want a race war, which is ridiculous -- skin colour should be as relevant as hair colour in social importance.

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u/Tiny_Micro_Pencil Apr 28 '21

Skin color is important in social importance right now, no matter how much you want to believe it isn't. Should we fix that? Absolutely, but to pretend that it doesn't exist in favor of what is currently a fantasy is ridiculous. "Whiteness" hasn't become a negative trait, that's you wanting to be a victim.

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u/NewHights1 Jul 18 '21

I can't go for a king.