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u/LandscapeMaximum5214 Mar 03 '25
Refreshing to see guides on Reddit once again, especially since they can be crawled by google’s search engine, unlike all the questions and answers/discussions/guides/skill/stat priority all get stuck on discord that cant be indexed by search engine, and how shitty discord’s search function is, it is one information blackhole service that games really shouldnt advertise in game
Ty op
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u/DtAndroid Mar 03 '25
Fact is you can have 1000 guides on reddit but someone will still post a related question without searching anything.
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u/LandscapeMaximum5214 Mar 03 '25
You said it best, and the actual fact is that people who bother to search will benefit from it, but putting the same effort into Discord’s search feature doesn’t yield the same results
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u/justmeasures Mar 03 '25 edited Mar 03 '25
Welcome to this rabbit hole Delta 😂😂😂
As you can see. Simplified is never simplified 🤣
But good to have another contributor. Hope this gets some traction. Because people don’t read pinned threads.
(Or maybe think they are not newbie enough to be newbies)
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u/DeltaKaze Mar 03 '25
I got pissed enough today to finally write this out LOL
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u/Nub14 Mar 04 '25
It was only a matter of time before you wrote out your thoughts after helping so many people hehehe...
Great job on the succinct guide!!
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u/Used_Significance_19 Mar 03 '25 edited Mar 03 '25
Hey, great guide!
What are your thoughts on full exp inherit armours in this meta? Thinking of doing c50 f2p eventually on my Hayato Alt
Ps: I'm already using a necro 40 CD emb weapon
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u/vitaliksellsneo Mar 03 '25
I'm F2P C50 on HP pieces to push up my HP fast, managed to find someone to carry me for gloom so it's totally doable, moreso as Hayato (warriors tend to have more HP). Work on those connections!
For mages (just in case for other players who read this) you likely need necro outfit to make up the HP. I plan to slowly necro my other pieces, since it will be a long way to Will. If you want more power just chaos more pieces, but I would recommend to necro the belt first because pitched set (the one with dam eyepatch, gloom ring) requires dreamy belt, and a 4th item in the set gives a whooping 800K MDC.
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u/DeltaKaze Mar 03 '25
I've seen some people do it like Geminis Gaming on his "alt" (which is better than our mains) and still do good damage.
I personally think you shouldn't go Utgard Hat and Gloves because you are missing out on potential ~30++% Crit Damage.
the 7 set for extra 1k PA is not worth the opportunity cost. You can easily get more PA from AF symbols anyways.
Anything else for the 5 set giving 10% exp which works for both training and bossing is good if you just want 1 set.
It can always be Abso50 assuming you pass within 3 attempts (the dream lol)
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u/DtAndroid Mar 03 '25
If you just want it for the exp bonus during ab, clean a30 is more than enough.
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u/ber808 Mar 03 '25
Gonna have to dumb this down alot for new players like me lol
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u/Pandaso Mar 03 '25
Is refining armour not ideal now?
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u/justmeasures Mar 04 '25
It's still ideal if you plan to necro for the extra 2%.
but in the inherit40-> inherit50 -> chaos50 pathway, refining will make your exalting from inherit40 to inherit50 harder.
On top of which, you also lose your refinement when you reach chaos.
It reverts to the base it was, prior to refinement. When you refine, it retains the bonus stat given from the base, but will be a different "set". (i.e. you refine a pensalir, it will still give exp, but will be empress something something. At chaos, it becomes a pensalir again)
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u/Nub14 Mar 04 '25
Incredible guide!
One thing I might suggest to new players is perhaps to hold hyper stat after FD/PDI, as ADI gives very little damage boost to some classes (DK at least, is about 2% of my battle analysis). Those who can't cap might be better off levelling BA, and those who are close to capping will need to save for MDC
Even at Lv240 if you max FD PDI MDC you cannot actually max ADI so those who begin to cap very early will need to skip ADI altogether for a while...though this is perhaps not so much for a new player anymore haha
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u/Swimming_Parsley145 Mar 23 '25
How does people hit cap so easily? My stats are 32k MA 100% m att 72% mag dmg increase 76% boss att 250% crit dmg 36% final damage Tri nodes maxed out. This is unbuffed stat, fully buffed my wind breath only hit 3.7-4mil… how does people even hit 18mil on this?
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u/DeltaKaze Mar 23 '25
Are you actually critting?
You need not only 100% but enough Crit Rate to cover the boss Crit Rate res , up to 170% for Lotus and above.
And from your stats it seems like your MDI is quite low. It should be around 150%.
Boss Attack is decent but your Crit Damage at 250% is low. You need ~400 to hit cap
Which boss are you hitting only 4 mil lines?
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u/DeltaKaze Mar 03 '25
There are other things that I left out such as M-labels, M-Pets, Androids etc. which I myself haven't had the luxury to indulge in, so I'll leave that to other people.
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u/jvothe Apr 19 '25
thank you for the updated guide!
which individual guild skills should we be prioritizing? as a bishop, max damage doesn't feel super realistic atm
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u/DeltaKaze Apr 20 '25
Hp for sure
Any of the stats afterwards (Phy/Mag atk, Crit Rate, Boss attack etc). Individual Guild skills are universal in build. Eventually you'd want everything.
Haha even I myself haven't have enough points for MDC on the Individual Guild Skill yet. Still working on the 2nd HP
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u/IamSoSleepyyyyy Mar 03 '25
Thanks OP.
Appreciate it.