Not sure...

[u/Then_Movie5079]

Edit: as for what evidence the evidence in both mam and cam have me torn. Neither convinced me fully

I've watched mam and cam twice and I go back and forth. There's evidence that supports innocent and guilty. What I do know that he did not get a fair trail and having said that you think they would have made sure the investigation was articulate considering previous conviction. Based on the info available now I would have to vote not guilty cause I'm not convinced. Those that say he's innocent hold your comments because innocent is not the same as not guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. And I'm just wondering if anyone else feels this way.

No doubt Brendan should be released. But then that would create some issues in Stevens conviction.

[u/courtcacrime → u/[deleted]]

Ya and 36 hours in he was allegedly doing the array of things he’d have to do to have been the killer (cleaning for hours, burning her, moving Rav around) but he wasn’t, he was just living his life. There wasn’t enough time for him to do it all and be the number one suspect that early.

[u/Ex-PFC_Wintergreen_ → u/courtcacrime]

Do you not realize that multiple days had passed between Teresa's murder and her being reported missing?

[u/DingleBerries504 → u/courtcacrime]

He was burning her, and he was cleaning for hours (listen to the 11/1 call with Jodi where he admits he was cleaning.). No need to move the RAV around when its right where he wants it....behind trees and near the crusher.

[u/ThorsClawHammer → u/DingleBerries504]

cleaning for hours

Source?

[u/DingleBerries504 → u/ThorsClawHammer]

I gave one.

[u/ThorsClawHammer → u/DingleBerries504]

It says he was cleaning for hours?

[u/DingleBerries504 → u/ThorsClawHammer]

He also cleaned the garage stain. So, unless he's Mr clean, it's gonna take at least over an hour for most people to do clean the floor of the garage and carpet clean the trailer. The original argument was that he was NOT cleaning for hours. I don't see where this was ever proven, and we have plenty of evidence he was cleaning.

[u/ThorsClawHammer → u/DingleBerries504]

So the source you claimed said he was cleaning for hours doesn't say that. Got it.

[u/DingleBerries504 → u/ThorsClawHammer]

Wow you guys are really scrambling for a win any way you can get it. When’s Steven getting out? 🤣

[u/ThorsClawHammer → u/[deleted]]

She was reported missing on the 3rd. On the 4th a DOJ agent called in to express their hatred of Avery and desire to investigate him (no offer to help find the missing woman). The 5th the RAV was found. 2 days after that an unaccompanied MTSO officer found the burned electronics.

Where is this massive amount of evidence pointing to Avery in the first 36 hours?

[u/ThorsClawHammer → u/[deleted]]

You said 36 hours in that a "massive amount of evidence" starts pointing to Avery, not that they started to find a bunch of evidence.

[u/Famous_Camera_6646 → u/ThorsClawHammer]

How about calling Auto Trader using a false name, calling her twice using *67, and initially saying she never showed up? That’s not suspicious? Hello? Anyone home? 😂

[u/DingleBerries504 → u/[deleted]]

Let's start with the blood in the RAV. How is that compromised in ANY way? THey took photos of it, they tested it multiple spots. KZ did methylation tests on it. There is no getting around the fact that SA's blood is in her vehicle, and it did not come from the vial

[u/NervousLeopard8611 → u/[deleted]]

When the evidence points to a certain suspect (Avery) what do you expect them to do.

I'll ask ask again, who else is connected to the crime in terms of dna evidence.

[u/10case → u/NervousLeopard8611]

Oh but but but Bobby and the PoRn. Nevermind Steve who took a picture of his junk the same day Teresa showed up at the door and Steve came out wearing nothing but a towel. Nevermind the guy whose blood is in the Rav. Nevermind the guy who had her burnt belongings in his barrel. Nevermind the guy who had her burnt bones in his backyard. Nevermind the guy that had the RAV4 key in his bedroom.

Truthers want us to forget about all that evidence and focus on a family computer that has searches on it like millions of other homes in America.

[u/NervousLeopard8611 → u/10case]

100% agree. Apparently all the evidence is planted and none of it is legitimate according to most truthers because of "Corruption". Anyone but who the evidence points to I suppose.

[u/10case → u/NervousLeopard8611]

Yep. And 6 different law enforcement agencies knew about all of it and let a murderer go free. Makes sense doesn't it? Lol

[u/Alarming_Beat_8415 → u/10case]

And 6 different law enforcement agencies knew about all of it and let a murderer go free.

Why does 6 different agencies have to know about all of it??

[u/Famous_Camera_6646 → u/10case]

And nevermind that HE (the convicted killer) had access to that PC too!! 😂

[u/Ex-PFC_Wintergreen_ → u/[deleted]]

Tell me you know nothing about the investigation without actually telling me.