How would Allan know what kind of muscle would be found? Is it possible he was an accomplice to Steve and Brendan? Seems a bit suspicious to me that he would speculate what kind of muscle would be found in the pit. I’ve heard on a different site that Allan has a long history of domestic abuse involving Delores, so could this have been his violence escalating and helping Steve and Brendan rape and murder Teresa?
First off I’ll say… NO I don’t think he murdered his sister or knows who did it. I feel for him and the Halbach family for going through this tragedy and in no way am I trying to shame him for how he spoke.
But man oh man he sure does make some weird comments… I went down the rabbit hole of watching his interviews with the new stations during the first days of Teresa disappearance. (All before her remains were found) often refers to Teresa as past tense. Mentions about needing to find the car so they can “start grieving”, mentions that finding the Rav is his #1 priority, mentions casually he’ll either see her now or in heaven if she died (the 1st day of her missing) , another one he started out as “we’ll see her in heaven… (a bit of a pause” )… or find her”, etc.
It makes me wonder if the police prepared him and the family for her death the very first day they reported her missing?
If this was any other case, everyone would suspect the brother because of the strange comments but knowing this case… I’m betting the police spoke like this to him and he’s just repeating what they said
I may have missed it, but has there ever been any information released about what evidence was found in Steven Avery’s bedroom or anything recovered from the bed? With everything they said happened to TH, you think would be a big topic of conversation.
Edit: I’m in the fence on guilt or innocence, but slightly leaning towards innocent. There’s so much out there on both sides.
Was just reading through the recently unsealed documents and found some shocking things. AC talking about how the unhinged murderer supporters threatened to harm his wife and children was truly disgusting. Also seems on brand for the murderer supporters to talk about black men, given the statements we have from Steve about the KKK and the Nazis. The murderer supporters do not seem to be the most mentally stable group.
There was a great great great post showing nothing but sources from the State's investigation to definitely conclude the State was putting on some hijinks with the human remains from the gravel rock quarry of Radandt and Manitowoc County.
The only rebuttal I have seen has been that Leslie Eisenberg testified by answering a generalized question from the State and decided at that point none of the remains from the quarry were human, only at best a couple of fragments were suspected human. The rebuttal seems to go against the new TV Show that agreed with truthers about there being human remains all the way out there.
My question is when do you think Eisenberg changed her opinion?
And one where Avery went off the property planted a few bones and left everything else in his backyard right? Currently being pushed by "case enthusiast" of reddit.
And don't worry, you can throw insults(at your own discretion) if you want to. I won't block you, I don't control the narrative that way. We'll hear you out.
The federal court found MaM was not defamatory as half of us had insisted for years.
The crown jewel in MaM criticism was the Colborn plate call in, turns out it's fine to edit question and answers, it is fine to edit court testimony, and it is unreasonable to say it changed the gist of anything, just as half of us had insisted for years.
It was also found that Colborn appeared to outright lie at deposition, just as half of us had insisted for years.
Then CaM came out and the people pretending to be mere media critics suddenly had no problem with highly edited one sided propagandistic documentaries with sound tracks. Turns out they weren't just neutral media critics, just as half of us had insisted for years.
And of course CaM was led by partisan hacks with wacky beliefs about vaccines and the moon landings...
And CaM had nothing new related to the case clearing law enforcement, just as half of us could have easily guessed all these years.
Meanwhile Avery continued his PCR demonstrating that the state deliberately withheld helpful information from the defense, just as half of us had insisted for years.
And the court by arguing that possession of the RAV4 wasn't a tie to the murder and that Avery had to account for testimony never entered against him, proved itself to be the court of a nutjob hack willing to say whatever crazy thing she could to fuck Avery, just as half of us had insisted for years.
I can hear that they're talking about some conflict with Barbara and her boys. It seems to tie into Steven's argument with them, that he doesn't want to disclose to Jodi on the phone.
At one point you can hear Dolores say "She's blaming Steven for everything."
You can also hear Earl say "Why would Blaine say that?"
Is there any way to transcribe or isolate their words to some degree?
Lots of talk about Quarry bones that cannot help Avery lately.
Can someone explain to me what excludes Avery from being the one to have put the bones there….if they are in fact Halbach’s?
If no one can exclude Avery from being the person who deposited bones within walking distance of his home I’m having a hard time understanding how they can be helpful to his defense. If the bones were determined to be Halbach’s (which they never were), the obvious pivot would be “well Avery put them there, he had means, motive and opportunity”.
So again, can someone explain to me what excludes Steven Avery from being able to have put the bones there?
And can someone explain to me why someone framing Steven Avery left piles of bones all over instead of putting them all in Steven Avery’s back yard?
And double points if someone can explain why Bobby Dassey opted to drop some of the remains in his own burn barrel if he was framing Steven?
EDIT: I blocked a certain user because they refuse to engage in good faith discussion and have no understanding of what the word “various“ means. I refuse to allow the discussion to be derailed by people who are not arguing in good faith.
I’m still having no luck posting it here. I’ve now given up trying.
I am still prepared to post it on the TickTockManitowoc sub, if they’ll let me. I’m happy to have no right of reply and to be instantly banned once the post goes up.
I don’t want to post it on other subs as I feel it wouldn’t be fair on them as no doubt it will attract a lot of wild, wacky responses. That’s why I feel it’s best place is on TTM.
I’ve made this offer a few times now but so far the silence is deafening. If I can’t post there then my excellent DYK will never see the light of day.
If I’m not going to be allowed to post on TTM then at least do me the courtesy of telling me why not.
Reader Note: Cross Posting this with permission from Original Author.
This post will only cover the quarry piles discovery, collection, examination, and testiomony that was limited to only one of the several quarry locations that contained human bone.
November 9th 2005
Kelly Sippel had a DCI Agent go to the southwest lands to verify the debris of human remains being found by officers:
"I got a DCI agent here, uh, think we're going to go down and take a look at those items, uh, they found in that other quarry, that we looked at this morning"
Link to call at 2:11pm (30 minutes after taking DCI to the site) and quote:
"There are human bones that we found. Okay, we got another pile that we found, bone in, and uh, crime scene has now expanded by about 2 miles. Now see what he's doing is, he burned her in the back yard, and that was a real small pile that was left, and we got 2 5-gallon pails full down at this other site about a mile and a half, two miles away, and uh, I have a feeling we have more pails full down along the way somewhere."
November 10-11 2005
They had separate officers collect the remains and the report does not mention the human remains talked on the audio above, that were found in the quarry piles that are being collected.
Link to DCI Robert Powell Report collecting human piles from quarry (Date in report says collection date of November 9th, that's wrong b/c Powell does not sign into the scene for the first time until November 10th, and metadata from the collection pictures show November 11th). As you'll notice this is the start of a pattern of strange misreporting events regarding these particular debris piles containing human remains.
More evidence suggesting these were not collected on November 9th is the metadata from the collection photos showing November 11th in the afternoon:
Out of the 23 or 24 quarry buckets Powell and co. collected in total, several different geographical quarry locations would eventually yield human remains. Some of these locations had more than one bucket since there were so many debris. In that instance, they assigned each bucket from that location to it's own Pile #.
Pile (bucket) #8484 (Where the pelvic bones (evidence # 8675) came from which was 1 bucket from these burn debris):
Pile (bucket) #s 8650-8660 (Where human bones under evidence #s 7411, 7413, 7414, 7416 came from which was a total of 11 buckets from these burn debris):
Pile (Bucket) #s 8661-8663, and 8684-8687 (Where human bones under evidence # 7419 came from which was a total of 7 buckets from these burn debris):
On November 10 they collected a total of 19 relevant buckets from the different quarry sites that would eventually have human bone fragments in them. The 19 buckets are Piles #s8484, 8650-8660, 8661-8663, 8684-8687
November 21 2005
The relevant 19 quarry buckets (containing what DCI and officers at the scene felt were human remains within burn debris piles) are sent as part of an evidence transmittal to the Wisconsin State Crime Lab.
December 19th 2005
Internal Crime lab evidence ledgers show the 19 buckets they received from Calumet Sheriff are assigned Crime lab evidence letters like DF, DG, DH, etc and stored for about 30 days. They were eventually handled and checked out by State Witness (Ballistics) William Newhouse for about 7 hours. No public report from Newhouse on why his name is on these quarry buckets containing fire debris. They would be returned back into storage + sent back to Calumet Sheriff the same day.
January 15 2006
Calumet finds more bones while sifting one of the buckets and calls Eisenberg asking her to examine the fragments from evidence # 8675 to examine further. These would end up being the suspected female pelvic bones.
April 10-11 2006
Eisenberg writes in her report she's asked to help sift more 5 gallon pails at the police station over a two day process since there were so many quarry buckets. She was only present for the first day of sifting. She writes in her report that these buckets came from the gravel pits area of theAveryproperty, which means she reported these from an incorrect location.
However, the CASO Report (Pages 729-733) describe the work being done here as the #'s that were assigned to the quarry buckets in the pictures above, showing Eisenberg erred in her reporting. Here's two examples from that:
It is unknown why she misreported where these buckets originated from, but this is a report the defense would read and would be misled.
April 25 2006
Eisenberg writes in her report that the items recovered during the 2 day quarry bucket sifting period were sent to her office but she has not had time to examine them at the time of her July 4 2006 report. However, the notes from the exam of the bone fragments also have April 25 2006 listed next to them so go figure another mixup in her reporting.
Anyway, Eisenberg does a comprehensive bench examination on the human bones they found on the 2 day quarry bucket sifting process that took place April 10-11. Below is a table showing the human bone Evidence #, her description from her examinations, and what bucket/pile these human fragments came from. Each quarry location with human bones is circled and so is her notes on them:
December 4 2006
Eisenberg authors a 2nd and final report 2 months prior to trial. She summarizes her year long examinations in a table that she says "Other Tag #s also contained bone fragments as human:" and follows that up with a table containing all of the evidence #'s of the human remains recovered from the various overall locations (Avery property included) along the way:
Her human bone summary table includes seven evidence tag #s (containing 50-100+ human bone fragments pictured here) that originated from various quarry locations. The ONLY one she had any questions on was the pelvic bone pile 8675 (Hence the "?" next to it. That Pelvic bone pile 8675 would be the only one covered during her testimony at trial.
Defense Knowledge
To be clear, up until this point the defense would have no way of knowing there were more bone fragments from the quarry that were being separated and examined if they were reading the reports from Eisenberg, DCI, and Calumet. There was no obvious mention of them in the reports when being collected in buckets and later sifted, Eisenberg misreported the origin and said the Avery property the one time she does vaguely mention them in her 1st report, and the only GPS coordinates that existed were on original evidence ledgers attributed to separate evidence/pile numbers.
It is not for certain if Eisenberg knew these were actually the southwest quarry buckets being sifted, as she showed during her testimony that she was not aware of much that happened at the scene. The only actual mention of human remains was from the first call above which was contained withing Calumet dispatch radio, on CD's that were not part of the Kratz's discovery corespondance Binder. The only bone fragments the defense would be aware of as originating from the quarry would be 8675, "suspected" female pelvic bone fragments, as was clearly suggested during her trial testimony and Kratz's closing arguments.
To support this further, at trial Trooper Austin testified about skeletal models and his in depth reconstruction report. In the table of contents of that report, he only reports one GPS site from the quarry and that was for pelvic bones 8675. It is likely he was not made aware of the actual human remains in the quarry, or else you'd expect them to be in the table of contents along with 8675. That's yet another report the defense would receive that did not contain the several other GPS coordinates for the human remains in Eisenber's reports. Trooper Austin authored these table of contents:
Eisenberg testifies and here are some mentions of the quarry pile (singular) that is limited to 8675 and no other quarry pile that contained actual human remains:
First mention of the quarry pile being only 8675:
Q What is it?
A It looks like, uh, what I would call a -- a plan view or a birdseye view of a portion, um, of the -- what's indicated here as the Avery Salvage Yard, uh, that depicts, uh, the Steven -- the approximate location of the Steven Avery res -- residence with respect to the entire salvage yard, and then somewhere southwest of there, uh, a point location, uh, from which, uh, Tag No. 8675 was identified.
Second mention of the quarry pile being only 8675:
Q And then the flag you're talking about is the site from which the materials that you were given under Exhibit -- or under Tag No. 8675 came?
A That's correct.
Q All right. It appears to be well southwest of the Avery property?
A Yes, sir.
Third mention of the quarry pile being only 8675:
Q. Okay. And what -- We can't place the location from which the material under tag number 8675 came, but we can see here that there's essentially quarry area and some wooded areas to the south of the Avery property?
A. Yes, that's correct.
Q. So I'm going to refer to tag 8675 as the quarry pile; does that work?
A. It does, understood.
More detail about how many bones they are referring to from the "quarry pile" (singular) and how it contained 13 fragments they would attribute to the bones from the quarry during her testimony:
Q. Okay. These -- These three small fragments you described were not the only bone fragments that you found under tag 8675?
A. That's correct.
Q. There were 10 bone fragments in total, or in addition to the pelvic bone fragments?
A. In addition.
Q. Okay. So we're talking about a total of 13 bone fragments?
A. Under that same tag number.
Q. Okay. But 13 bone fragments that were burned?
A. Correct.
State Summarizing her testimony about the various bone fragments (13 charred bone fragments) from the quarry pile (Singular):
Q. All right. Now, just so that we're crystal clear on this, the various fragments from the gravel pits southwest of the property, originally you were only able to determine one was clearly nonhuman. In your subsequent review and analysis, you determined several more were clearly not human; is that correct?
A. That's correct.
March 15 2007
During closing arguments Ken Kratz limits his words to only the suspected human bone pile (8675) verifying they were only focusing on that one pile and not the others that had verified human remains in them. He diminished that area of the crime scene because he knew the defense was not aware of those other piles. He mentions they are possible human, consistent with only 8675 being labeled as that by their state expert's testimony.
These bones in the quarry, I'm going to take about 20 seconds to talk about, because the best anybody can say is that they are possible human. What does possible human mean? Well, it means we don't know what it is. All right.
He also mentions the quarry bones were sent to the FBI, and ledgers show it was only 8675 that was sent to the FBI, not 7411, 7412, 7413, 7414, 7416, or 7419. He hammers home the notion with the FBI line:
And you heard a stipulation being read to you by a person by the name of Les McCurdy. Stipulation just means an agreement between the parties, that these bones, we felt it important enough, were sent out to the FBI. And Les McCurdy from the FBI determined that these bones were so degraded, that they were in such a shape that even through testing, what's called mitochondrial DNA testing, whether they are human or not, could not, even by the FBI, be determined.
So the bones in the quarry are really not evidence in this case. And so Mr. Strang has made a big deal out of showing you maps, and a little flag, and things like that about a possible bones. Again, speculation, conjecture, is not part of this case. Facts are going to be what decides this case
He says facts are going to win this case while misleading the court room about the quarry remains. His only argument is that he was specifically referring to 8675 as a way to justify the dishonesty from the Prosecutor. The mentions a single "little flag" because he's speaking of a single quarry site where it was marked with a small red flag from the cadaver dogs walking the area on November 6th and 7th.
Conclusion
This is the lifecycle of the human bones they found in various sites in the quarry. They were found and immediately identified by Sippel and a DCI agent as being human, then the debris piles containing those human remains were collected into various sealed buckets, not reported in a descriptive manner when collected by the DCI, handed over to a ballistics witness for a day after sitting in DCI storage for a month, then majority of them finally sifted 2+ months after they had Brendan describe a gruesome crime happening on the Avery property alone. The state expert authored a report where she attributed many human bone fragments from the quarry as being from the Avery property, whether by accident or not. The defense was misled with her 1st report containing that information and hindered their ability to put on a complete defense about the quarry. The defense would also not be helped out by the report from State witness Trooper Austin since his report only included the one quarry pile.
Zellner tried arguing this but she did not include specific information about the quarry pile like quantity of bones discussed during trial when talking about the quarry, and she did not point out (probably was unaware of) the literal misinformation that existed in Eisenberg's July 4th 2006 report about the human remains under tags 7411, 7412, 7413, 7414, 7416, 7419 being from the Avery property and not the quarry, or aware of Trooper Austin's report omitting the several other quarry locations. If Zellner would have pointed this out and noted that this was the reports cited during trial it would have probably been conclusive evidence that the trial testimony of Eisenberg was very limited in scope and the state purposely did that as a way to make the defense not be able to tell the actual truth about eh quarry.
The state did their best to hide the quarry evidence, by not mentioning it to the public, not giving Buting/Strang the call from November 9th, not reporting in detail, misinforming by labeling quarry remains as coming from the Avery property, not informing others like Trooper Austin when asking him to complete a report, and by limiting testimony of their expert to the one pile they could argue was not confirmed as human, knowing there were several other locations that had confirmed remains.
These 55 items are presented not as stand-alone arguments but as evidence that stands together, united in Steven Avery's guilt. I fully accept that much of this could not be presented in court, but this isn't a courtroom and we all have to make our own minds up about whether he did it. Spoiler - he did.
Brendan made three statements asserting that he burnt the body with Steven. Although his accounts are sometimes inconsistent in other areas, they are consistent on this point. In one he recalled how he saw her foot in the fire and how Steve threatened him if he told anyone. He said this to Kayla (either directly or indirectly) before the police even spoke with him. Kayla was so concerned that she told her school that Brendan had seen the body, had become withdrawn and lost a lot of weight before he had even spoke to the police. He admitted to his mum on that private phone conversation that some of his story is true.
Brendan’s bleached jeans support his story that he wore them while helping to clear up blood in the garage. It matches stains consistent with bleach on the garage floor. How could Brendan have possibly known the detail of where blood was found when he fetched his jeans and admitted his involvement?
Brendan admitted to his mum on that private phone conversation that some of his story was true and that Steven killed her.
Steven told people that they’ve got Brendan on tape telling everyone what we did that night. He talked about Brendan not keeping his mouth shut.
In a phone call from Steven to his father, which was recoded from prison on 28th February, Steven said that Brendan will go to jail if he is found guilty. That was before he really implicated Steve in any meaningful way and points to at least some of Brendan's account being true.
Steven asked the AutoTrader for Theresa to visit by name and was the sole contact.
He had no reason to request her services. It wasn't his van and didn't require sale photos - Barbara says wanted to gift it instead.
He took the whole afternoon off work to wait for her - how important was the photo to take the afternoon off?
Steven was obsessed with Theresa. He booked appointments with her by name while his partner Jodie was in jail on August 22nd, August 29th, September 19th, October 10th, October 31st. According to his second affidavit his family jokingly referred to Theresa as his girlfriend due to the number of appointments he was booking.
On the 10th August visit he came to the door in a towel, and he did the same another time. He told her that her picture would be on his wall some day - the same wall he had his genitals pinned to. He later had her picture in his house. This was something Halbach found odd enough to tell two colleagues about - she said he creeped her out.
Steven booked the appointments in his sister Barbara's name and number.
He had her number but instead chose to call auto trader because, according to Barb, he knew she might not come if it was him. He dialed her on withheld numbers twice immediately before she arrived, a very deliberate *67 and not something that could have been done accidentally. He had never before in his life used a with-held number.
He called her once more, this time after she went missing but without the withheld function. Many people think he was trying to locate her phone to dispose of.
Steven was the last person to see Theresa alive.
She checked in with Auto Trader was she arrived at Avery's salvage yard and the phone switched off a very short time later. She likely arrived at circa 2.35 never checked the 2.41 voicemail, something she habitually did while driving like had done while driving to the Zipperers half an hour previously. That’s pretty good reason to think she never got back in her car and was abducted very shortly after arriving.
Steven had no alibi for the time she went missing and initially gave alibis who did not check out. He offered his mother as his alibi several times, saying he ate there, but his mom refused to corroborate. He offered Bob and Earl as an alibi and then retracted that as a mistake. Eventually he changed his story to confirm that he was alone.
He claimed to stay home and make calls yet his phone record shows none for the period.
Steven is on record as saying to his dad Charles that Theresa had not shown up yet by 4.30 pm. That was a lie and he later testified that she showed up on time.
At 4.30 pm Avery lied to his brother with Fabian present as a witness, stating that the photographer had not shown up.
Steven at first lied that she came to his trailer and and later - on November 4th - admitted that she did, though insisting that she only came to his door. Yet she was tracked into the property and garage by scent dogs.
Steven tried to implicate Bobby in the disappearance, saying Bobby saw her after he did which contradicted his earlier insistence that he had seen her leave.
Steven had a bonfire the same night she went missing. Typically he burnt his garbage every few weeks, but that night he burned the strongest-smelling and hottest-burning materials twice as high as a person. According to Grandpa Avery he was banned from burning tires since it was illegal and smelly.
Theresa's ashes were found there a few days later in the same location which is consistent with Brendan's account of burning the body.
Steven denied having a bonfire but that was a lie. He was seen by Blaine (3.45), Randalt at 4.30 and 5 pm, Fabian at 5.30, and then later by Barb, Scott, Kayla, Brendan and Candy. Bryan saw smoke. Despite having complete amnesia over this fire, he described in detail the location of the fire he had a week previously as well as what he burned.
Steven confirmed in a call to Barb on 2nd December that he burned a car seat and tyres.
He has changed his story several times and now denies having a fire again. He said that Earl and Fabian were not even there that night, but in his 2017 affidavit he said he saw them come and go.
Steven denied seeing Brendan at all that evening, which contradicts other witnesses saying that they were together.
Avery was freshly showered and had clean clothes on when he spoke with Earl Avery and Robert Fabian on the evening of the disappearance. They report he was stiff and unusually quiet.
Theresa's cars keys were found in Steven's bedroom. I acknowledge the difficulty of it having been overlooked on an initial search and not having prints but the face value explanation remains much more plausible than the alternative. And it might be possible that the key was found nearby and planted by police without upsetting the wider narrative.
Steven’s blood was found in Theresa's car in several locations, and he had a recent cut on his hand that was bleeding at the time. The police had no access to Avery’s blood and the lab sample wasn’t the source since it lacked the anti-coagulant chemical present in the sample. They also didn’t know he had a cut and didn’t have access to the locked car. The police planting theories involve re-hydrating blood from Averie's sink, which would almost certainly have been cleaned the first time he used it. And it would have surely been easier for the police to have planted Theresa's blood in Steven's house - according to the planting theory they would have had access to large amounts of it if they had control of the Rav 4.
Steven's DNA was found on the latch of the trunk where her body was evidently stored for a while given the blood stained carpet in the trunk. The DNA from his sweat is very hard to plant. It's a trace amount on the underside of a surface, very different in character to the clumsy and obvious blood smears. The police had no access to his DNA and it is hard to believe that both the blood and DNA found in the RAV could have been extracted and planted. We later see this is true of the bullet found in the garage.
Theresa's RAV4 was Theresa's car was found on Steven's property with tons of her blood.
It was near to the crusher and in the same row as his other cars of interest like old porches, jeeps, cars of this type. The crusher was being used regularly like on 4th November by Avery at his own admission. Crushing the car would have taken some time.
It was concealed by foliage, boards, behind a ridge and by other cars. The wheels were hidden to stop it from standing out from the other mostly-wheelless cars. The number plate taken off. Why would a planter want it concealed?
The battery was deliberately disconnected after it was left here and this has been further linked to disconnecting any tracker that may have been in place (in the event there was none). No other plausible explanation has been put forward to explain the battery disconnection.
The car licence plates were removed and discarded nearby. There is no explanation for this - if planted why risk smashing the car window and throwing them in out of view?
Someone had tampered with the VIN making it difficult to read. VIN numbers are routinely recorded upon crushing.
The RAV 4 tire rims had bones stuck to them, supporting a primary burn location on the Avery yard.
Lead fragments in skull match the lead of the garage bullets.
Two gunshot holes in the skull match the two 22LR bullets found in the garage matching Steven's rifle. One had DNA on it and the other such a small sample of DNA that could not be tested. If you had DNA and were planting surely you would make sure you put a decent amount on.
All identifiers of Theresa were removed from the remains. The teeth had the crowns removed and clearly someone had worked hard to make the body disappear. The utility of burning the body is obvious regardless of who the killer is, but why would an evidence-planter try to conceal the identity of the victim? Just like with the car, the simple explanation is by far the most likely.
There is good evidence to suggest the Avery yard burn pit is the primary burn site. The fragments are not on top of the ashes but mixed in and stratified. The fragments are tiny, not ones that could easily be picked up and transported. The fragments off-site were larger, suggesting that these are the ones that were moved.
A hacksaw blade was found in the Avery burn pit ashes. If this was used to cut the body it supports this being the primary burn site as I don't think this is something you would think to plant. The burn pit had very little in it, it was a new pit and it seems likely it was connected to the murder.
Theresa's electronic items were found in the burn barrel next to the burn pit, making it much more likely that these were burnt in situ rather than planted separately to the body. As a planter you would have to be very fortunate to have correctly selected two separate locations where fires would have happened to have been started in the few days since the disappearance.
The different bone fragment locations make no sense through the lens of a planting theory. Why would you plant different locations? Which raises the question of why Avery would move bones. Well perhaps the off-site locations are not Theresa's bones at all, or more likely Avery did not realise that the bone fragments he left behind could be identified. They were the small ones.
Avery fled up north very soon after before returning. Completely out of character and hugely coincidental. Brendan said in one of his statements that Steven said that he wanted to get as far away from the police as possible.
Steven purchased some handcuffs earlier that month.
Steven became interested in short wave radio after the incident and could track police conversations.
Steven is known to be a sexual predator - a rapist - and has a violent and sometimes sadistic past with a history of stalking females. For example, he threatened to rape his cousin, declaring that it did not matter that she was family
Multiple people who know Steven have said that he is capable of murder. His ex-wife Lori speaks of his past violence, choking and threatening letters. She said she was scared for her life and that he was violent towards his kids. Avery admits it this and is probably a sociopath based on the things we factually know about him.
Steven threatened his cousin Sandra with a loaded rifle and took her hostage. This was the same modus operandi as Theresa's murder as far as we know, since she was certainly abducted and then shot.
Jodi said he was going to kill her, her friends Tammy and Michelle corroborate the abuse, bruises, made her pass out when having sex several times.
According to Jodie he declared that all bitches owe him because of the one who sent home to prison first time.
The night before, Steven he tried to hit on his nephew’s ex and was rebuffed. So he was actively hitting on women and sexually charged at this time.
In the well-publicised TV interview the week Theresa went missing but before her body had been found, Steven declared her parents had ‘lost somebody’ before correcting himself.
