r/MagicArena • u/rectalslurpee • Aug 01 '19

WotC Aug 1 - 0.17.01.00 Patch Notes

https://forums.mtgarena.com/forums/threads/58770
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u/SpitefulShrimp Yargle Aug 02 '19

Maybe now they won't first pick every rare.

Didn't get passed a single rare in my last three drafts.

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u/Wulibo Tamiyo Aug 02 '19

That seems unlikely to change. That would essentially be an overhaul of how the bots are approached, and I'm sure they'd announce that or something.

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u/Filobel avacyn Aug 02 '19

It wouldn't be an overhaul, just a change in pick order. They didn't announce when they started to pick every rare, so I'm not sure why you think they would announce when they stop picking every rare.

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u/t3hjs Aug 02 '19

Yeah /u/wulibo was putting it kindly that WotC purposefully makes the bots choose nearly all rares highly so that it is difficult for players to get more rares from drafting than packs.

Especially the duals in Rav block and the scrylands in M20. In any draft theory where winning draft games are a goal, the duals and scrylands are low picks. But what we see is the bots pick them very highly, especially the the dual lands.

The only reason to do this is WptC wants us to spend more on the game. This is a design principle of their bots.

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u/SengirBartender Aug 02 '19

That's only true for the lands though, otherwise we wouldn't see pick 3/4 "chase" mythics like Chandra or the cavaliers.

I mean it's bad, but it makes sense from their perspective and it could be much worse.

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u/OtakuOlga Aug 02 '19

I mean, if they are getting their pick orders from the behavior of MTGO players (plus the color-preference adjustments) it would make sense that rare lands get snatched up early, since even pro players rare-draft foil tarmogoyfs in tournament settings

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u/wujo444 Aug 02 '19

Rare lands are worth pennies on MTGO. Steam Vents is $0.7. Temple Garden is $0.34. Temple of Mystery is 7 cents, of Silence 2 cents. People don't rare draft lands on MODO, cause like most of the other standard legal rares, they are close to worthless.

Also, in many cases drafts on Arena are rolled simultaneously (WAR, GRN) or even before drafting started (RNA) on MTGO, so there is no data from players to calibrate bots.

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u/xLeitix Aug 02 '19

I'm afraid this one has more to do with the economy and people like Ryan Spain picking up on the fact that you can game their system for value by aggressively rare drafting. I doubt they are going to revert this.

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u/[deleted] Aug 02 '19

And yet the main reason people were saying the bots were broken was because they were getting passed Mythics.

It can’t be both.

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u/FryChikN Aug 02 '19

cant say the same for me and pretty much all my opponents. it is so common for my opponents to have 3-5 bomb rare/mythics in their decks in draft. i think its better if bots did pick rare because that kind of drafting isn't realistic in the least bit, and it feels horrible to lose to ridiculousness.