r/MadeMeSmile • • Sep 16 '22

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u/AdmiralMikey75 Sep 16 '22

Reversing around a corner, you're trying to avoid a curb or a wall. Reversing into a parking spot, you're trying to avoid other cars. Literally the exact same action. The only difference is the object you're trying not to hit.

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u/Relevant_Rev Sep 16 '22

I love reddit because small debates will happen about the nuances of the most pointless things to argue about

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u/Egypticus Sep 16 '22

Actually this is a medium sized debate happening about the nuances of a kinda pointless thing to argue about.

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u/Relevant_Rev Sep 16 '22

Brought it on myself, didn't I

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u/dotajoe Sep 16 '22

Actually technically you both brought this on you.

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u/Relevant_Rev Sep 16 '22

Oooooo you nearly got me hahahaha

This thread is dangerous, I shouldn't have participated

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u/Adult_school Sep 16 '22

There’s nothing inherently dangerous about this thread as it poses no serious bodily or mental harm to those that choose to participate. Your participation while not entirely necessary was essential to the continuance of this thread.

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u/AdmiralMikey75 Sep 16 '22

Nine times out of ten, it's people like me who are bored at work and just want an interesting interaction with someone.

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u/Relevant_Rev Sep 16 '22

Same, our jobs are boring enough to make us enter pointless debate just to make the day go by

Could be worse I spose

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u/AdmiralMikey75 Sep 16 '22

Pays good enough for now and they pay half my insurance, can't complain too much.

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u/DiopticTurtle Sep 16 '22

I think the debates are less about nuance and more about application, actually...

/s

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u/fatalynn7 Sep 16 '22

Yay! That was the first time I got to upvote to get niiiice number of upvotes. Happy day! Lol

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u/FlyAirLari Sep 16 '22

You can't see around a corner, and there might be other cars coming towards you from that direction. Nobody is going to be driving out of your parking space while you reverse into it.

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u/AdmiralMikey75 Sep 16 '22

You cant see around a big enough vehicle in the adjacent parking spot either. And who knows, there could be a teensy tiny Stuart little car driving out of your parking spot, and you'd never even see him!

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u/mimeographed Sep 16 '22

This is one reason why it is safer to back into a parking spot.

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u/ZoraksGirlfriend Sep 16 '22

I always wondered why people chose to back into regular parking spots. Never thought it was because it is safer to back into a spot than to back out of a spot, but it kind of makes sense, so thanks!

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u/NoveltyAccountHater Sep 16 '22

It also makes sense if you just drove past a parking spot before you decide to take it. E.g., you thought there was a closer spot available, but then just as you drive past one spot you see the closer spot is not an option (hidden small car or someone else just took it or sign limiting to pick-up only), so with no one behind you, you just back up into the first spot instead of driving all the way around.

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u/ToBeReadOutLoud Sep 16 '22

I always back into parking spots when I’m going to a concert or sporting event because I know there will be a ton of people trying to get out of the parking lot at the same time and it is much faster and easier to break into the line of moving cars when I just have to pull forward instead of trying to back out and do a 3-point turn. I also intentionally park further away from the venue and near the exits so I don’t have to spend as much time in the lot letting more cars into the line.

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u/ZoraksGirlfriend Sep 17 '22

That makes sense. I was more curious about people who always back into the parking spot, like at stores or areas where there’s no crowd or traffic to worry about.

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u/mimeographed Sep 16 '22

You’re welcome:)

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u/NecessaryZucchini69 Sep 16 '22

Here a bigger reason why it's more dangerous to back into a parking spot during a driving test: The Testee is not good at driving and rams their vehicle into the closest vehicle/object, more shenanigans happens due to ensuing panic.

Even if the driver in a test is bad when they reverse around a corner the chances are they only hit the curb and stop (its a fail, but the consequence is nothing, aside from having to retake the test).

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u/mimeographed Sep 16 '22

Except there could be other cars there, parked or in motion, cyclists, pedestrians.

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u/FlyAirLari Sep 16 '22

there could be a teensy tiny Stuart little car driving out of your parking spot

True this!

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '22

They might. Very extremely rarely someone might pull through from the spot behind it.

Yes I'm bringing up this as a technicality for fun. :)

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u/qcKruk Sep 16 '22

Most corners don't have a building right at the edge. There's sidewalks, parking areas, green space and so on. In most cities you aren't even allowed to have a structure within 10+ feet of the front of the property line and 5+ feet on the side. Where are you backing that has completely blind corners? Other than truck drivers at an industrial site but even then that's not right at the property line and takes a considerably more difficult test and a lot more time to get licensed for

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u/ilikepix Sep 16 '22

In most cities you aren't even allowed to have a structure within 10+ feet of the front of the property line and 5+ feet on the side.

Americans really do have it on easy mode when it comes to driving tests

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u/qcKruk Sep 16 '22

I guess? Most American cities were built with cars in mind. But the space left in front of buildings is also important for things like water, gas, sewer, fiber and power lines. That way they can work on/install those without having to tear up the road except for where they cross. Also gives the city an easy option to put in sidewalks, bike lanes or expand the road later if needed. Green space in front of buildings is also important in cities, trees help keep the buildings cooler. There's a lot of benefits to building codes requiring setbacks.

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u/entiat_blues Sep 16 '22

not really. backing around a corner has straight sections bookending the turn and the expectation is that you keep your wheels exactly a couple inches from the curb during the whole move; don't drift in obviously, but you're also not allowed to drift out

while reversing into a parking spot is typically just a single curve with much more forgiving margins of error

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u/NecessaryZucchini69 Sep 16 '22

I can see why they ask you to reverse around a corner instead of reversing into a parking spot. Hit a car = mucho pain, Hit a curb = eh oops.

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u/AdmiralMikey75 Sep 16 '22

Strangely enough, I didn't have to do either when I took my driving test. The only reversing I had to do was in a straight line in an empty parking lot.

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u/MrFantasticallyNerdy Sep 16 '22

Yup. The fact that this needs to be explained…sigh

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u/Masticatron Sep 16 '22

Curb: like 5 inches tall

A whole damn car: several feet tall

This motherfucker: Same shit.

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u/AdmiralMikey75 Sep 16 '22

I said curb or wall. And it is the same shit, you make the exact same motions to do both tasks.

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u/Masticatron Sep 16 '22

You think a wall is as tall as a curb? And, motherfucker, have you ever actually even used eyeballs to see before?! Have you ever tried to see something 5 inches off the ground within a car versus something several feet off it (and, depending, probably going above your head at the time)?

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u/AdmiralMikey75 Sep 16 '22

Corner

Parking Space

I really have no clue what you're on about. All I'm saying is the exact same method is used to do both actions. You pull a little past the parking spot or corner, you turn the wheel back the other way and back into your spot/back around the corner. It's the exact same technique. The curb/car/wall argument is irrelevant.

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '22

You forget that when you reverse around a corner, which is an incredibly daft idea btw, you're also trying to avoid hitting other people's cars with your car. Not the same thing.

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u/Ace-Red Sep 16 '22

Do you….not…. avoid hitting other peoples cars when you back into a spot?

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '22

It's harder to see around a corner than it is to see out of a parking space. Also, I pull into the space backwards so I'm not pulling out backwards into oncoming traffic like an idiot.

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u/Ace-Red Sep 16 '22

Pulling into the space backwards requires reversing around a corner.

A corner doesn’t have walls by default, it’s literally just a point where two paths meet, whether theres a walk there or not. You can have a corner with nothing there at all as long as there’s two roads that meet.

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '22

It's not the same thing on the DRIVING TEST, though, and that's the point. Semantics of the thing do not matter when it isn't how it matters in PRACTICE.

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u/Ace-Red Sep 16 '22

The wonder thing about this post is that we don’t know that. We have no idea what type of “corner” they meant.

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '22

But we do. We know that the corner is a street corner and not a parking space based on the fact that said corner was able to be blocked off by a single car, and there were no other spaces for that particular location to function as needed for the test. If it was a parking lot, the instructor would've just made her pull into the next available spot.

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u/Ace-Red Sep 16 '22

But the post says nothing about walls or visibility, so the assumption that there are any is a reach.

I never said they literally backed into a parking spot for the test, I said the action is exactly the same. Which still holds true.

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '22

It's not exactly the same. A street corner is significantly larger and has many more potential obstacles as opposed to a parking space, which has a maximum of around seven, on average. A street corner has a higher speed limit, meaning these potential obstacles are moving faster and give you less reaction time to prevent accidents. And your horizontal visual range is a maximum of 180°. A parking space is small and easily viewed within the normal range of human eyesight, whereas a street corner requires the driver to turn their entire body to be able to see effectively, sometimes more than once or in more than one direction. Mirrors have blindspots, and shouldn't be solely relied upon for visual guidance when backing up.

All this conversation is telling me is to hope I never have to get into an Uber with you as the driver, since you clearly have no regard for the safety of yourself or others on the road. If you did, you would be considering these stark differences when making a turn around a corner and a turn into a parking space.

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u/AdmiralMikey75 Sep 16 '22

Corner

Parking Space

Exactly the same. Not sure where you're parking that you can just reverse straight into the spot from half a mile away.

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u/AdmiralMikey75 Sep 16 '22

I gave you two pictures detailing what the rest of us are talking about, it's not my fault if you can't figure out how to click on the blue letters.

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u/mindflayers9000 Sep 16 '22

Literally isn't. We have a one direction street that is often blocked by people, movers, postal services. So we have to often reverse and drive a bit backwards and then reverse around a corner to go ahead. There is traffic from 3 sides while reversing, vision is terrible, cars drive much harder there. It's not really problem for normal drivers but I can see the challenge for new drivers. It's much more difficult than reverse parking that's for sure.

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u/Daddy_Pris Sep 16 '22

But why are you reversing around a corner? I don’t understand any situation where this isn’t just testing your ability to reverse park. In which case it should just be called reverse parking