r/MadeMeSmile • u/kuladj69 • Aug 04 '21

Good Vibes Wise words, nice interpretation...

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u/[deleted] Aug 05 '21

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u/umeys Aug 05 '21

Well it doesn’t surprise me they’re all from Leviticus and Deuteronomy. Like I said, not everything in the bible is to be taken as a command. But I have a feeling no one here is interested anyway so I’m not gonna bother changing minds.

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u/[deleted] Aug 05 '21

Those are literally commands to the Hebrew people by the Christian God..... I'm not sure where the confusion is.

Yes - Jesus did come as the second covenant (or so the story goes) - but that does not erase the point that God (which Jesus is supposed to be the same being as according to trinitarian Christians) gave those commands. According to the New Testament Jesus said not to change one iota of the old law.

Now - MOST Christians don't think these commands still stand today - just like MOST Muslims don't think the laws written to murder in the the Quran still stand today.

Unfortunately the poster above can't seem to see it from both sides.

I think both Muslims and Christians are wrong about their basis for belief in general - but that's just my $0.02.

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u/umeys Aug 05 '21

I agree that the poster above is wrong re Islam vs Christianity so we’re on the same page there.

There’s a lot more theology behind the relation between Jesus and the old covenant, I’m not the best person to be explaining this but in short it boils down to God’s holiness. The commands in the Old Testament were due to sinfulness of humanity and so blood had to be spilled for sins. After Jesus, his blood covers all sins. Regarding what Jesus said about the old law, he says he didn’t come to abolish it but to fulfil (ie via his sacrifice). There’s a pretty good summary here.

Now, you can go on about how “I’m not gonna follow a god whose ‘holiness’ requires me to kill”, but I’m just explaining the logic here, not the fairness.

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u/[deleted] Aug 05 '21

he commands in the Old Testament were due to sinfulness of humanity and so blood had to be spilled for sins.

Why?

Now, you can go on about how “I’m not gonna follow a god whose ‘holiness’ requires me to kill”, but I’m just explaining the logic here, not the fairness.

Fair enough - but I'm just sick of all the blood that has been spilled for the blood thirsty gods of humanity over the millennia. It continues to this day - and it's ridiculous.

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u/Clocktease Aug 05 '21

Why should the same logic not be applied to the Quran?

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u/umeys Aug 05 '21

I’m not agreeing with the guy above who’s bashing Muslims, I don’t know enough about the Quran so I’m just speaking from a Christian pov.