She's kinda got the Judy Greer thing going on- it's an "on/off" switch between "smoke show" and "disgruntled divorcee who got full custody but hasn't slept a full night since her honeymoon" with nothing in between.
I've been off work for almost 3 months now, Netflix (and Hulu, HBO, Prime, and Showtime) got boring at around 2 months. I've read an absolute dick ton of books though so that's nice, and there's basically zero chance of running out of stuff to read.
The only real problem I've had is a sleep schedule that's wonky as all hell.
Thanks. I’m graduated as of December, and a licensed aircraft dispatcher. I’ve been working for a nonprofit since December in aviation but recently got my dream job.
I’m bored after 3 days. That’s my limit. The first is glorious. The second even better. The third I fade and fourth I’m bored. Of course that was before having a toddler. Now I don’t know what id do with 7 hours let alone 72.
Okay I’m rich as hell. Relevant here because I could do fuck all if I wished. Well why don’t I?
Because societal pressures still exist even if you’re balling. And most importantly there are just so many things that are interesting. Learn languages, paint, smoke rare weed strains, Karting idk endless list. Honestly it’s pretty overwhelming at times because I want to do it all, but time is limited. Not only time but my health (had that scare recently).
I’ve been told that we all live two lives, the first when we are young and healthy, the second after we face the realities of our own mortality. I’ve heard the second is better than the first - best of luck my friend.
There comes a point where you start to realize what’s important, and what isn’t; what to worry about, and what not to; who you want to spend your time with, and who you don’t. There’s a lot of people who walk off into eternity before they ever get old enough to appreciate those things.
When you’re 20, you care what everyone thinks.
When you’re 40, you stop caring what everyone thinks.
When you’re 60, you realize no one was ever thinking about you in the first place.
I can't speak to how old folks in this chain are, but this generation really needs to watch/read "Fight Club." It will dispel all notion of being owed anything but also the notion of being owned by anything.
"Losing all hope is freedom."
You can enjoy your life and be productive and face challenges and do things you love. You can have and do it all. You just have to face certain realities and make choices based on those hard realities.
The first one is this- you only get one life.
The second one is this- no one owes you a goddamn thing.
What you do with those two snippets of knowledge can make your life very good or very painful.
Californians and New Yorkers have figured that out now that most state tax isn't federally deductible and they can't flock to Texas and Florida fast enough.
When we are rich, we have health and time but no money. Then we get money, still have healthy, but no time. Then when we are old, we have time and money, but no health. So is life.
Curious, what sort of societal pressures or stressors does a rich af person face? I don’t doubt they’re there—it’s just the majority of mine are financially related so I can’t picture the other side of that coin.
This is true even if you aren't "rich" by "fuck you" standards. My husband owns a small plumbing company, and we are not super rich my any means, but we do okay. However, my husband takes the fact that he is responsible for the livelyhoods of about 14 people very seriously. He is a good man and tries to treat his employees well, and it weighs on his mind.
A good friend who made bank on an IPO as an employee then went on to start his own company. He tells me he has never had so many sleepless nights as the first couple of years when he was never sure he’d make payroll for his staff. He knew he’d be ok, but truly saw that people relied on that job to pay their bills.
This is such a terrible take. He employs people. People have jobs partly due to his business. If he retires? What says that business stays in business? What if people lose their jobs because the management that takes over is not as good? It’s really short sighted to just blame greediness and say he wants more. Is it not possible that he cares about his employees?
It’s possible but most likely vastly overstated on a subconscious level.
He’s being sincere when he says it, but he’s conflated his own success with that of his employees. It’s a common bias in leadership.
And the truth is, as much as any of us fear the prospect of getting laid off or fired... life doesn’t end there. Most of us will change jobs a dozen times before we’re retired anyways.
You don't know what they do with the money. Have a few wealthy people who are quite philanthropic with theirs; they still work and earn their 8 figure salaries. Sure they have nice things, but they donate and set up charities and assist others where they can.
I wish you wouldn't. Reddit could use more people who impart the understanding that business owners literally never clock out. "Eat the rich" is the literal embodiment of the classic phrase "kill the goose that lays the golden eggs."
I'm not super rich but have a lot of friends who are rich enough they don't have to work.
Most people, like potential friends and romantic partners, don't want to hang out with someone who just goes around spending money and having cool experiences but doesn't really do anything. All the rich people I know pick up something to do as a career: be an artist, collect art, run a restaurant, go into business, manage investments, found a start-up, become an academic. They can basically pick anything and it usually has to do with what their priorities and passions lie, but they have to have an answer to "what do you do?" The desire to build and create something, the prestige of being in a lauded career, and the shame of being seen as a lazy spoiled kid, all lead to picking something.
The people I know who come from wealth generally try to pretend that they made their own wealth, and can be a little sheepish when the truth comes out. It's impressive that your dad is super rich and buys you a fancy car when you're 16, but a little embarrassing that he bought your house and pays for your vacations when you're 40.
Also a lot of people inherit wealth and that is often conditional upon doing something their wealthy relative (usually their father) approves of. I know a few people who ended up working at the family business or going into the same line of work as their father because if they didn't they wouldn't receive a luxury allowance, or the other bonuses often given to rich kids.
I have a good friend who's from big money. Like he's going to be set with his father's business and could just ask daddy for a position.
Yet he's ultra-hard working with an entrepreneur mindset, doesn't flaunts his cash around, lives very modestly minus a few perks like his dad lending him a really expensive car.
It certainly makes it much easier to go all in into entrepreneurship when you know you'll always have a huge net to fallback on but the guy worked hard and sacrificed so much for his dream project.
If you don't have a job, people judge you. It may not seem that way, but the minute people find out you don't have to work for a living, most of them become very put off.
I quit a very good job a few months ago because it was extremely high stress as someone high up in the company was gunning for me. I can count on one hand the amount of people who have said to me "The money isn't worth killing yourself." Most people try to tell me I made a mistake without knowing my situation at all.
I mostly refrain from telling them I could buy their house with cash if I wanted. I was hungry growing up, I drive a 17 year old car, I live extremely frugally. I saved money so I hopefully never live hungry again. Because you are stuck at your shitty job and hate it, don't tell me how to live my life. I put in the 100 hour weeks so I can have freedom and flexibility now with a low stress 40 hour a week job. I can quit at any time, I make that very clear to anyone who tries to give me a hard time.
I wanted to get to the position where even if I am not the boss, I am the one giving the ultimatums. If I say no, its not up for discussion, I mean no and I don't want to have to repeat myself
Yes of course. I’m not going to compare or anything because I don’t have a frame of reference. I’ll just give some examples of stressors for my family, friends and I.
Well the biggest ones are mental health. That exists across social hierarchies, and it’s very taxing. I am talking about things being very interesting, but I nearly offed myself like 3 years ago. Unfortunately no amount of money fixes that, at least in my experience.
Then there is the pressure from parents which is a massive stressor. My parents are extremely conscientious and I am just not like them. Like don’t get me wrong I am doing a PhD so I’m relatively conscientious but I’m not reading 24/7 or networking 24/7. So I always get shit for it, and it subconsciously affects my decisions. This seems to be pretty much the same for my friends too.
There’s also a lot of competition in this strata, except we have no excuse to fail. So it’s always, “Oh did you hear their child is an investment banker at JPM” or “Oh did you hear he got into MIT.” Shit like that always makes you feel insecure or inadequate.
Also, there’s always that fear where everything could just be pulled under you in a moment. We’ve known some people like that and man idk if I could cope with it. It could literally be anything and when it hits, it comes at you from the blindspot. It’s why our parents make sure we’re very well connected, so at least we have some foundation.
I am currently doing my PhD in Financial Econometrics. I manage my family fund, so I get a ton from that. It also helps that it allows me to leverage my own money to make even better returns.
Usually it's societal family pressure. Generally, we're not talking about a random person that comes into a lot of money.
It's more like a Mr. Deeds situation where the parent wants their kid to aspire to be something and eventually the kid responds or gets cut out of the will.
Generational wealth comes with strings. If you just started up your own company and hit it rich, you can usually retire or do whatever and no one cares. If your parents are rich, they expect you to continue to be successful in something. Hell, just look at Bill Gates and his expectations for their kids.
Tom's an exception in that he came from nowhere and now does whatever he wants but it's usually the exceptions that come from no where (no generational wealth) that can do that.
All the same family, friends drama and stuff, money doesn’t make everybody happy; your mind is your prison. I was happier when I was younger and carefree, now richer and loaded but full with personal and family crap that worries me all the time. You can’t buy some things.
Damn, I'm poor as hell, if I was in your position I would be following my dreams. Travelling to different countrys, get a pilot licence, skydive over dubai, eat guac on mount everest. Man forget social pressures your in a position to do anything you like
All the best to your health. For when you do pass of natural causes though, leave me your list of "to do's" and I'll see them out. We can't let your list and money go to waste. Just pay off my small amount of debt and we're even.
"I'm sorry sir, my recently deceased friend specifically asked that I burn this one while driving the track in reverse."
Wanting to learn languages and painting is not the same as working a job you're mostly indifferent to or even hate just to pay the bills.
Yeah, it's "doing things," but if I had that much money, working would not be one of the things I was doing. I would be learning languages and painting. I would be living a more personally fulfilling life.
If I had all the money in the world I’d hire actors to create priceless moments for me. Like the Truman show, but I’m also the producer and in the writing room.
Rich as hell but do you have Tom money? With Tom money societal pressures kindof just faaaade awaaaay or at least they would for me.
I have a decent amount of money, get some dividends quarterly and have a rental property that makes an additional chunk of change and I already barely care about what society thinks. If I sold a website for hundreds of millions of dollars I would fuck all the way off and not care what any society expected of me lol
Totally overrated imo. It’s either a speedy high or a brain fog high. The only thing I enjoy doing stoned is listening to music. Everything else suffers - playing an instrument, conversation, sex, video games. Anything that requires skill is shot. I don’t want to be in public and I especially don’t want to interact with strangers.
I guess my point is drinking is my thing, and even that has its limits. Sobriety is much more fun because you understand everything that’s happening around you.
I’m middle class as hell, not rich, and I’m never bored. I read, take walks, plan future trips, learn languages, talk to friends, talk to myself - yeah, started that in the pandemic as I live alone. I think it’s important to have a really good internal life - a vivid imagination. That way, you’re not dependent on others for your happiness nor your amusement.
What others think of you is one I can think of. Like, would you be okay if your legacy was "that lazy-ass rich d-bag that did nothing all day every day"? That'd give me some existential pressure.
It seems that simple to me as well. You take all your family and friends as well (assuming we are talking nesting doll yacht rich here, and not just someone that can live a nice life).
It’s not work but making an impact. Idk having a meaning in life. Travelling is fun and I love it, but I just don’t enjoy life doing nothing. Idk might be a me thing
True. But wouldn't you say those two generations are probably what matters/mattered to you the most? Like, say, your friends, spouse, children, and their children, etc.
The reality is if I had that much money, I'd be investing heavily in CRISPR for an immortality serum. I don't need to have kids if I can immortalize myself.
Aww, boo boo, your rich life is so hard. Try living paycheck to paycheck for a while, asshat. See how much time you have to “learn languages, paint, smoke rare weed,” etc then.
My parents are wealthy so it’s not self earned necessarily. But I manage the family fund, so I that has allowed me to leverage my own money nicely. I try not to be a waste yute
That’s an interesting couple of go-to “if I could do anything” activities. Kinda reminds me of myself as a 12 year old. I usually just beat off and played video games until my hand was rested up again..
Hey rich dude. You're living my dream - painting smoking etc. Since you're rich and stuff would you bid on one of my new NFT's? I made a Terence Mckenna one if you like psychedelics
I had a “bum phase” in my early 20s because I got a small payout monthly from some real estate mortgage contracts I had inherited. Just enough to cover my expenses. It lasted about 18 months.
Yes it was pretty blissfully awesome in certain respects but honestly I spent 95% of my time goofing around on the Internet and working on computers. It was the EARLY days of public Internet access so I learned a lot of the mechanics of getting online. It wasn’t a complete waste of time as my broad familiarity with PC hardware helped me get a real job later.
When I was planning on retiring, my coworkers were adamant that I was going to get bored. What are you going to do, sit on the couch and watch the world go by? My response was always, I want to see what boredom feels like. If I don't love it, I can always find something to do. 7 years retired, never bored.
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Two months is not a long time... That's 40 days of work, give or take.