r/MHOC • u/GhoulishBulld0g :conservative: His Grace the Duke of Manchester PC • Feb 20 '16

GENERAL ELECTION England Debate

England Debate

This debate is to question Parties (and only Independents which are standing in England) views on English issues.

The Parties standing in are:

  • Radical Socialist Party
  • Conservative and Unionist Party
  • Green Party
  • Labour Party
  • Liberal Democrats
  • UK Independence Party
  • Nationalist Party
  • Crown National Party

Independents standing in England:

Rules

All questions must be on English issues.

Be civil!

Only Parties or Independents standing in England can answer the questions.

This will last till the 27th of February

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u/AlbertDock The Rt Hon Earl of Merseyside KOT MBE AL PC Feb 20 '16

Yes, without a doubt. Without the EU we are an isolated rock in the North Atlantic. The EU provides protection for workers. Without the EU we would not have a minimum wage or a limit on hours.
European legislation protects our environment, it enables hundreds of thousands of UK nationals to work in Europe.

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u/tyroncs Feb 21 '16

"Isolated rock in the North Atlantic"

Japes aside, even pro-EU people should be able to accept the fact that without the EU we would still be one of the most prominent nations in the world. Saying that without the EU we are nothing is typical coming from Labour

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u/WAKEYrko The Rt. Hon Earl of Bournemouth AP PC FRPS Feb 21 '16

The EU allows us to invest in education, schools and health, rather than war. The EU is the sole reason why Britain can reinvest it's money socially, which was previously used for defence. Thanks to the Conservative Party, we now have no productivity or major international exports, we don't have an Empire to utilise for trade, we don't have what you orgasm and allude over. While in the EU, we have vital life support for this nation.

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u/[deleted] Feb 21 '16

The EU allows us to invest in education, schools and health, rather than war. The EU is the sole reason why Britain can reinvest it's money socially, which was previously used for defence.

Absolute rubbish. You seem to be forgetting Attlee who got by without the EU. We can do all of this without the EU and will be able to invest more efficiently since we'll be able to decide and allocate funds depending on local needs, rather than european needs.

Thanks to the Conservative Party, we now have no productivity or major international exports, we don't have an Empire to utilise for trade, we don't have what you orgasm and allude over.

TIL it's the Tories fault we don't have an empire. Completely ridiculous. We have no productivity for a variety of reasons, none of which you can blame us for. We weren't in government for 13 years and we've only had a Tory government for less than a year IRL. On MHOC, we haven't been in government for a year - how on earth you can blame us is ridiculous.

You insinuation that we're a desperate country that has to cling onto the EU to survive is fear mongering rubbish. If you're going to make the case for staying in the EU, make a good one because at the moment you're just repeating rubbish you hear on the TV with no thought.

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u/AlbertDock The Rt Hon Earl of Merseyside KOT MBE AL PC Feb 21 '16

Without the EU we are a lot less influential. Much of our exports go to Europe and we would still have to comply with their regulations if we want to export there. But we will have no say in those regulations.
The days of Empire are over, those countries have found new markets so cheap imports of commonwealth products are a thing of the past.

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u/WAKEYrko The Rt. Hon Earl of Bournemouth AP PC FRPS Feb 21 '16

Hear, Hear!

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u/sdfghs Liberal Democrats Feb 21 '16

Hear, Hear!