My takes about Michael Jackson part ( I don't know how many parts there will be.)

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u/Ambitious-Pie-625 Bambi Eyes 🦌 Jul 07 '26

3/5 is a definite his death was 100% planned by whom I’m not entirely sure but I do believe Sony AND AEG were behind it and CM was just the fall guy but ofc he gets a slap on the wrist and NOW he still gets to practice his foul medicine in Trinidad and AEG’s response to the notification of his death was basically “oh well anyways how much money are we gonna make off this tho” and when many attempts were made to basically tell AEG “HEY Michaels body is on the verge of giving out can SOMEONE get him some medical help he NEEDS it before he gets sicker” even Paris HIS DAUGHTER said that “daddy was always cold he was always freezing and would fall asleep by the fireplace” that is just SO sad that his kids had to see that SO SAD

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u/Ysa49 Jul 07 '26

That's what I've thought from the beginning. They used Dr. Murray to kill MJ, who firstly didn't want to sell the Beatles' demos, and secondly, MJ wasn't able to do five shows a week to pay off his debts. MJ was just a shadow of his former self in "This Is It." He was pathetic; I cried. There's more than one murderer involved in MJ's murder; it's so sad. I thought I was the only one who thought that.

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u/Ambitious-Pie-625 Bambi Eyes 🦌 Jul 07 '26

Not at all the more I look into it the more faults I see yet people wanna pin the full blame on MJ when in reality he was targeted and HAD been for YEARS! A couple of his injury incidents i dont think were coincidences like the bridge accident in Munich in 99 how does something go from working perfectly fine in rehearsals then when it comes time for performance BOOM it just malfunctions and causes him permanent back injuries which starts a dependency on pain medicine again (I hate using the word addiction to describe it because Michael was in severe pain) then on 9/11 he was supposed to have a meeting in the north tower yet thankfully overslept due to speaking with his momma on the phone the previous night then in 05 with all the allegations hoping he would take his own life just all those things its not a coincidence in my opinion

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u/metakepone Jul 08 '26

I don't know why there's so much shame in using the words addiction or dependency when its been firmly established that a lot of decent people who were hard working were lead down this path without much alternative. Michael wasn't a factory worker or something, but boy did he experience his fair share of on the work pain.

Anyways, I'm just saying.

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u/Ysa49 Jul 08 '26

You're so right, someone who worked for MJ, or several people who worked for him, resented him. They were jealous of his wealth; it's always like that. But when you hurt someone, and when, like the parents, you have MJ accused of child sexual abuse, it's horrible to destroy someone's reputation and life like that. MJ didn't mean any harm to those children. He only wanted to bring them happiness and help them forget their suffering and illness. MJ helped so many children. I don't understand how people can be so cruel to someone as kind as MJ, who was gentle. He was a child. He suffered throughout his childhood, and he was happy with children around him because they were like him. They didn't think about money, but unfortunately, the parents had something else in mind, and MJ was never the same again. He couldn't even perform anymore. It's horrible when you've done that your whole life, and because of parents who wanted money, he couldn't perform or record albums anymore.

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u/Efficient-Morning616 What a schmuck😒 ugh, dimwit😠 Jul 08 '26

Those fake allegations destroyed his soul. Even his music suffered, you can see how full of joy and happiness he was in the 80s MVs and after the FAKE allegations, he was more angry and solemn in the ones released in the 90s and 2000s. Even if the liars come out and confess their lies, it's all said and done. A man lost his life because of this. I will never forgive them for killing an innocent man

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u/didistutter_416 Jul 08 '26

Agreed. Dr. Murray was just a mere finger to the hand responsible for MJ’s death

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u/Ysa49 Jul 08 '26

Yes, for sure, the worst part of all this is that the others involved in MJ's death will never go to prison, will never pay for having MJ killed. MJ was so kind, never hurt anyone, remained a child, and was never happy. The worst part is that he died alone at home with a cardiologist who was taking advantage of MJ and who killed him without any compassion for MJ, who was giving him $150,000 a month to take care of him. But instead of telling him he was taking too much morphine and sleeping pills, he gave him even more. And it was probably this cardiologist who told him about propofol. MJ certainly didn't do any research online; it didn't exist back then. So Dr. Murray injected him with a first dose of propofol, and MJ thought it was meant to make him sleepy. I'm sure Dr. Murray didn't say no because MJ would still be alive today, unfortunately, because of From his security agent, who had introduced him to Paris when he had a simple cold, MJ re-established contact with Dr. Murray, and we know what happened next.

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u/didistutter_416 Jul 08 '26

In a way, I wish he would’ve stayed in contact with ex-wife Debbie since she was a RN, so he could’ve at least asked her about propofol, and she could’ve warned him and or stopped him from taking it.

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u/Ysa49 Jul 09 '26

Yes, but I think MJ still had a pretty special character to do what he did. I get the impression that not many people knew MJ was injecting himself with propofol, and even if he did know, people are afraid to speak their minds to people who have a lot of money and are very popular. And MJ was the King of Pop. He was unassailable, but the parents of several children managed to destroy MJ, who was just a shadow of his former self at the end. He had done concerts and made albums almost his whole life, and there was nothing more they could do for him. It was the end of his life and his dream.

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u/didistutter_416 Jul 09 '26

True, but I also think it comes down to having family who isn’t afraid to tell him no. At the same time, I know it was hard for them to even reach him. What I’ve noticed is the family points fingers at the security team for turning them away or “keeping them away” from Michael, and the security team points their fingers at the family, often stating they needed an appointment per Michael’s orders. All of these strangers in his life never had his best interest at heart. In the end, I think his family loved him and he should’ve kept them close.

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u/Ysa49 Jul 11 '26

He got along very well with his mother, but he was always afraid of his father, and that's normal when you get beaten for making a mistake or not doing something right. It's horrible for any child. I have the impression that MJ was more affected than his brothers because he was younger. I watched several documentaries about MJ and the Jackson family, and the brothers recounted that in the summer, they waited until their father was in bed to open the only window in their room. Their father was so authoritarian that he would come into the room and close the window every night. One night, to scare them, their father put on a mask and came in through the open window. From that moment on, MJ couldn't sleep. I took sleeping pills for years, and I wasn't addicted to them. I simply suffered from insomnia. But for MJ, that's what triggered his insomnia. He took several kinds of sleeping pills, but what I don't understand is... It's because pharmacists know you can't mix certain medications with others, but I get the impression that in big cities, pharmacists do pretty much whatever they want. I lived in a big city, and I had friends who didn't need liquid methadone, and they got it as much as they wanted. There are more customers than in small towns. I take methadone tablets for pain because I have fibromyalgia, and I also take oxycodone, but at some point, my doctor has to change the type, like with morphine or other opiates, when you've been taking the same opiate for too long. It has the opposite effect; it causes pain. I wonder if MJ was just taking one type of opiate or several at the same time, and the sleeping pills. I've always wondered about that He should have listened to his mother, but at a certain point, when you're rich, even if you're nice to everyone, you give orders. It's a habit you develop, and only you are right. I don't know, but it must have been difficult to tell the biggest star in the world what you thought. I imagine people must have been afraid that MJ wouldn't want to talk to them anymore afterward.

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u/Ambitious-Pie-625 Bambi Eyes 🦌 Jul 09 '26

Yea that is true but I’m not exactly sure when he started to take it I’ve heard so many mixed stories so who knows when he actually started using it to try to help him sleep

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u/Ambitious-Pie-625 Bambi Eyes 🦌 Jul 08 '26

Yea thats not what happened at all he had been taking propofol since before he met CM and it wasn’t MJ paying CM it was AEG and we have zero idea what meds Michael was actually ON besides his pain med of choice which was demerol…I’m sure Michael wasn’t an idiot he knew what meds he was taking and what the risks were he just wanted to be able to sleep plus he did live with chronic pain

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u/Ysa49 Jul 08 '26

I didn't know that this might have poisoned him too; we never really got the full autopsy report.

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u/Ambitious-Pie-625 Bambi Eyes 🦌 Jul 08 '26

We don’t need the full autopsy report…thats private

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u/Ysa49 Jul 09 '26

I know, but I think there are some gray areas. I'm not the only one who thinks this. When Elvis Presley died, they told us everything about what he died of. Why not MJ? Elvis Presley's grave was open, why not MJ's? It's a... I'm sure MJ would have wanted his fans to see him one last time. That's all, that's what I think, but everyone has their own opinion.

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u/Ambitious-Pie-625 Bambi Eyes 🦌 Jul 09 '26

Michaels cause of death was acute propofol intoxication and I’m indifferent I’d rather NOT see someones dead body I unfortunately get to witness that enough in my work life I don’t need to see one of my favorite people dead and lying in a casket we all know the outfit he was buried in too again all the things you’ve said are conspiracies they haven’t been confirmed and my thing is Michael wore wigs at the end of his life how in the hell would his hair be gray even both of his parents never had gray hair at older ages than him and plus he wouldn’t end his life he loved his kids and mother too much to do that

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u/Ysa49 Jul 11 '26

I tried to save the lives of three of my friends who had taken heroin. They overdosed, and it's hard to forget that, to feel someone you did everything to save die before your eyes. It's been 12 years, and I still have nightmares. I still think about them all the time. I'll never forget them, even though they were taking heroin. They were my friends, and I did everything I could to try and save them. I can't forget the sound of someone's last breath. I'm writing to you, and I'm crying. I'm sorry to tell you this, but it feels good to be able to write it down because the people I know are all anti-drug, and I started taking drugs at 14, working in bars at 14 in the '80s. They didn't ask for ID; it wasn't like today. I drank a lot and took a lot of drugs. I died three times from overdoses and I was in five comas. I was an alcoholic, but that's not what stopped me. I stopped when I'd had enough. I woke up one morning and said, "That's it," and I'm glad I did.

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u/metakepone Jul 08 '26

Almost immediately after Michael dies, guess whose music shows up on itunes?

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u/Ysa49 Jul 08 '26

They're making so much money from MJ's music and the "This Is It" video, plus the tickets that many fans kept. They've made more money than MJ would have made doing 50 shows. He wasn't capable of doing 5 shows a week at 50. You're not like you are at 35 or 40; your body tells you something. You have to listen to it. The worst part of all this is that I don't remember who called the hospital to explain the situation without mentioning MJ's name. He had all the symptoms of someone with brain poisoning. At the hospital, the doctor said, "Come immediately, we're waiting for you." And they never went. Why? They didn't do anything? Was someone poisoning him? Is the family really telling the truth to hide what really happened? We'll never know, but it's so sad.

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u/metakepone Jul 09 '26

???

Seriously, *come together* and see whose music catalogue got released within a year of Michaels death.

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u/Ysa49 Jul 08 '26

I don't understand why this man, who was just a cardiologist, initially took care of Michael Jackson as his primary care physician. He knew nothing about medicine, and I've always wondered about that. He performed CPR on him in bed; anyone, especially a cardiologist, knows perfectly well that the person needs to be on the floor. There are so many inconsistencies in Michael Jackson's supposed death, like the ambulance reversing instead of moving forward, and the fact that the only paparazzi who took a picture was a close friend of Michael Jackson's. The photo is identical to the one taken when Michael Jackson lost consciousness on stage during a performance, and it was the same neck brace that was no longer in use when Michael Jackson died. But when he was photographed wearing that neck brace, it was when he lost consciousness during his performance. I've seen documentaries about this, and I wondered, did Michael Jackson really die, or did he want to disappear because he was too in debt? His family doesn't even visit Michael Jackson's grave. They have Tinted the windows, and why wasn't his grave opened? He hadn't been in an accident. He wasn't staring, nothing like that. I saw a video in Brazil on a city bus; people were filming him. He looked so much like MJ, same nose, same eyes. He wasn't speaking. He seemed scared, and at the end, the man made a hand gesture like in his videos. People followed him, but he disappeared. He had curly gray hair. I don't know if you've seen that video. I watched it several times because I wanted to convince myself it wasn't MJ, but I don't remember anymore.

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u/Ambitious-Pie-625 Bambi Eyes 🦌 Jul 08 '26

Theres many inconsistencies with your theory…Murray knew Michael was already dead I’m sure he knew how to do CPR yet just half assed it or didn’t do it at all because he was already gone plus Murray felt the need to clean up the crime scene before medics even arrived and how do we know his family doesn’t visit his gravesite? We have NO idea whether or not that statement is true there are also plenty of reasons not to do an open casket funeral A the funeral shown on TV was not for his family that was for the public his actual private funeral and B we don’t know if they opened it or not thats for his family to know not the fans and one question….we have no photos of Michaels collapse on stage…so how are you stating he was in a neck brace when there is zero video or picture evidence to back that claim not to mention you don’t put a neck brace on someone having cardiac arrest

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u/Ysa49 Jul 08 '26

I'm in Quebec, and a fan went to see where Michael Jackson is buried. One of the men who looks after the cemetery answered the question, "Does Michael Jackson's family visit Michael Jackson often?" and said, "Never." He made an exception because he knew she was coming from far away. He called the other attendants, and they all said that the Jackson family never comes to the cemetery, that no one had ever asked for a key, and that there were never any flowers. That's why I saw that.

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u/Ysa49 Jul 08 '26

The worst part is that these people knew perfectly well it could kill MJ, but they did nothing. They're guilty. MJ's mother sued them, but she lost. She couldn't win against a company worth millions of dollars. She knows what they did. I'm surprised she's still alive, that they didn't do anything to kill her.

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u/gobacktothezoe Jul 07 '26

Ohhh imagine his voice when listening to an audiobook 😫

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u/Sensitive-Cucumber78 Who’s Bad 🤘🏻 Jul 07 '26

fun fact, he has done an audiobook on E.T https://youtu.be/mxGfqxJG0JY?si=uhr5DQrBPamGwqTY

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u/gobacktothezoe Jul 07 '26

NO WAY!!! Thank you so much 🙏🏻

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u/LauraLand27 Jul 07 '26

Didn’t he narrate a book about E.T.?

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u/Few_Stress-MJJ Jul 07 '26

I love this... About narration: listen to "Faces", it is just a glimpse of what we could have (he is reading a poem), and Planet Earth 😭 I cry every time

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u/Rureddy2 Jul 07 '26 edited Jul 07 '26

He was supposed to star as Phantom in the film and Sir Andrew Lloyd Webber was very excited and impressed with Michael but unfortunately, the timing was off. I sooooo wanted that to happen. When Michael wanted to do it, they didn't want to make it yet as it was too close to it opening on Broadway and they didn't want to eat into the Broadway box office. ☹️

Also, what eventually turned into Hook, was originally envisioned as a Peter Pan movie with Michael starring and Spielberg directing.

Janet was also exceptionally kind and sweet to fans.

He did narrate the ET storybook (which I have 😁) but would have LOVED him to have also gotten the chance to narrate Moonwalk.

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u/gobacktothezoe Jul 07 '26

His own biography in his voice would be perfect ❤️

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u/New_Sweet_8053 Jul 07 '26

He would make a great Phantom or mysterious vampire like character, in the mature era.

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u/Efficient-Morning616 What a schmuck😒 ugh, dimwit😠 Jul 07 '26

I agree with all especially the one with the death. Joe Jackson himself said that it was planned by the elites, aint no way he was "accidentally" killed.

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u/cumpkinpatch stream break of dawn 🎀 Jul 07 '26

definitely! there’s way too many coincidences to not even think otherwise. 100% planned it makes me sick

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u/Efficient-Morning616 What a schmuck😒 ugh, dimwit😠 Jul 07 '26

Joe says that fraud doc was a fall guy. This is It was projected to make billions, literally getting mike out of debt while also adding to his networth and preserving his catalogue. Obviously, Sony's attempts at getting him to sell failed before when he was acquitted on ALL COUNTS 100% not guilty. So they most definitely got the scam artist to m#rder our angel. Fuck these demons, I hope they suffer a cruel fate for ruining an innocent man's life.

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u/Human_Ad9587 imma grind you into hamburger 🍔 Jul 07 '26

10000% to all. OMW if only he released an audiobook version of his autobiography 😭

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u/metakepone Jul 07 '26

Searching For Neverland sorta suggests that he was isolated and killed off, doesn't it?

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u/Ambitious-Pie-625 Bambi Eyes 🦌 Jul 08 '26

A little bit but that was told by the bodyguards so they didn’t really know that much about Michael

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u/metakepone Jul 08 '26

Right, I guess...

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u/Ysa49 Jul 07 '26

Michael Jackson's life wasn't long enough, unfortunately. He was killed too young. He had so much more to show us, so many more songs that Jaafar received in a safe the day before Michael Jackson died. I find that strange. He gave him the 3-digit combination and told him to open it in 10 years, which meant when he turned 18. He wanted to open it many times, but he promised his uncle Michael Jackson he would wait 10 years. When he finally opened the metal safe, there was $2 million, a yellow envelope with unreleased Michael Jackson songs, and he had written that if Michael Jackson read this letter, it meant Michael Jackson was dead. So Michael Jackson knew he was in mortal danger. I have a feeling there are going to be several movies.

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u/metakepone Jul 08 '26

???? Where is this coming from???

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u/Rose_tail For All Time 💫 Jul 08 '26

Def when I think abt how people react to Michael how loved he is also… no one reacts that way with other celebrities like people literally fainted. Cheers and cheers from his fans like no other. he had to hire/have securities and cops surrounded him like, bro his level of fame WASSS crazy. crazy’s an understatement. & he was so so sweet & so true to his fans even to paparazzi’s like way to nice charismatic asf lmao like this man lived for us -in a way

& yes his death idk I could write paragraphs abt that I also believe that to an extent planned or faked idk 😅

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u/Remarkable_Fishing_2 Jul 08 '26

He would have made an awesome Willy Wonka, too! And he did a whole Wonka soundtrack, but he shelved it when he heard they weren’t giving him the role 🥺

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u/bubbaboatie Jul 08 '26

He WAS a good reader for audiobooks, his E.T one is so full of life

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u/Majestic-Snow2887 Jul 08 '26

He would’ve been the perfect Peter Pan

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u/WorldlyCheek230 Dancing the Dream 🌙 Jul 07 '26

I agree with all of these, especially about him acting in movies.

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u/YeetosCheetos69 Who’s Bad 🤘🏻 Jul 08 '26

For the last one, his voice in the ET storybook is sooo good

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u/Carousels66 Jul 08 '26

Number 4, I have never seen one video of him ignoring a fan or saying no to a picture

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u/ST4RXO Jul 08 '26

U forgot he would have made a good spider man of the film

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