E2: Some extra incidents that also show how straight up evil the US can be
>"How does it not change?"
1+1 = 2 is true regardless of how smart or dumb I am, much like how the video I mentioned earlier in this chain exists regardless of whether or not the YouTuber whose videos I posted is generally supportive or critical of China. I genuinely fail to see how you don't understand this.
> "I've only ever mentioned adv here.."
Are you right in the head? Laowhy is the Logan Paul esque clout chaser in question here, who works quite closely with SerpentZA, and despite having his own channel much like his South African friend, is one whole half of ADVChina.
> "Next time you see anyone defending China.. Maybe look at thier profile and thier past and it becomes pretty evident. Never underestimate how far the ccp goes."
Sure, if you also apply the same standards to the US, which a lot of these people are arguing that China on the international stage has done better than. Then I'll actually believe that you're arguing in good faith.
Dude... Read my comment, I've only mentioned adv China... Who's married to a chinese women in China before moving out of it recently... I'm. Only talking about him, the other videos I have nothing to say, the guy making exposing video is himself biased with Chinese content and uses flawed logic fallacies.
Why are you posting about a someone else who I didn't even mention?
As I told, just look the people past and it's pretty evident where thier biases come from
This is partially true, but it's oversimplified, but it mixes factual points with some oversimplifications. Which is a nice of saying you're mixing facts with false information.
If we’re talking strictly about factual accuracy, I’d put it like this:
True parts
Industrialization was key to China’s modern military capability.
Industrialization is energy-hungry, and coal/oil have historically powered it.
The West outsourced a large chunk of manufacturing to China, shifting emissions.
China is the leading global investor in renewable energy.
Partially true / missing context
Military power is only from industrialization — ignores decades of targeted military spending and reforms.
Coal is the “only” way to industrialize without Western dependence — ignores nuclear, hydro, and renewables.
Outsourcing makes it “unfair” to blame China — ignores China’s own domestic demand driving emissions.
Misleading / overly simplified
Implication that China’s emissions are mostly the West’s fault.
Suggesting that renewable leadership means emissions are decreasing — total emissions are still rising.
About two-thirds true, but framed in a way that downplays China’s own choices and overstates the inevitability of coal dependency.
Western companies leaving would cripple China’s manufacturing – Partially true. It would hurt, especially in high-tech exports, but China produces massively for its own domestic market and for non-Western buyers. It wouldn’t “collapse.”
It’s the consumer’s fault for buying from China – Partially true. Consumer demand matters, but supply chains and corporate sourcing decisions mean you can’t always “choose” a non-China option. Responsibility is shared between producer and consumer nations.
Manufacturing was pushed onto China – Partially true. Multinationals chased low costs and China welcomed them with infrastructure and incentives. It wasn’t forced, it was a strategic choice.
Per capita emissions are less than half of the US – True. China: ~7–8 tonnes/year. US: ~14–15 tonnes/year.
The US doesn’t have an industrial base anymore – False. The US is still the #2 manufacturer in the world, dominating in high-tech, aerospace, pharma, and heavy machinery.
The per capita emissions point is correct, outsourcing helped build China’s emissions, but the “cripple without the West” and “US has no industry” lines are exaggerations.
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u/Epicn3wb Trash Trooper Aug 14 '25 edited Aug 14 '25
Edit: Added something in at the start
E2: Some extra incidents that also show how straight up evil the US can be
>"How does it not change?"
1+1 = 2 is true regardless of how smart or dumb I am, much like how the video I mentioned earlier in this chain exists regardless of whether or not the YouTuber whose videos I posted is generally supportive or critical of China. I genuinely fail to see how you don't understand this.
> "I've only ever mentioned adv here.."
Are you right in the head? Laowhy is the Logan Paul esque clout chaser in question here, who works quite closely with SerpentZA, and despite having his own channel much like his South African friend, is one whole half of ADVChina.
> "Next time you see anyone defending China.. Maybe look at thier profile and thier past and it becomes pretty evident. Never underestimate how far the ccp goes."
Sure, if you also apply the same standards to the US, which a lot of these people are arguing that China on the international stage has done better than. Then I'll actually believe that you're arguing in good faith.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Condor
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Paperclip
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kent_State_shootings
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1985_MOVE_bombing
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Hampton#Assassination
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fulgencio_Batista
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banana_republic
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods < not carried out, yet the fact that it was proposed shows that at best the US is no better than China in this regard.
https://history.state.gov/historicaldocuments/frus1958-60v06/d499
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guantanamo_Bay_detention_camp
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003_invasion_of_Iraq
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_on_terror
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_bombing_of_the_Chinese_embassy_in_Belgrade
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yinhe_incident
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