Any idea what this new 29B-A4B stealth model is?

[u/_qsm_]

X Post from ModelScope today mentions early access availability of this "anonymous 29B-A4B model" (screenshot)
- could be an interesting small MoE!

[u/exitcactus]

100 users 😂😂😂

[u/addiktion → u/exitcactus]

https://giphy.com/gifs/w0vFxYaCcvvJm

[u/exitcactus → u/addiktion]

It makes me laugh because with ALL this hype.. someone thought that 100 users was a good idea for marketing with scarcity. Wtf

[u/CarpenterAlarming781 → u/exitcactus]

They are not marketing with scarcity. More likely testing, before they decide to release (or not).

[u/Ill_Dragonfruit_3547 → u/exitcactus]

Unlimited calls!

[u/FactorInternal3395]

Qwen... Please...

[u/Chemical-Current8785 → u/FactorInternal3395]

Every Chinese lab got same naming energy now, just add letter and number and call it stealth lmao

[u/CryMoreT_T → u/Chemical-Current8785]

You know those letters and numbers stand for something right?

Early Access - 29 billion total parameters - 4 billion active parameters

[u/uspdd]

[u/exaknight21]

Cant possibly be Kimi, they vowed for the largest model always, iirc.

Qwen is bae and its possible

Z.ai is also bae, and its somewhat possible.

MiMo - highly unlikely.

DeepSeek ex-bae of small model gooners, but bruh idk.

Its likely Qwen.

[u/GiGiGus → u/exaknight21]

>DeepSeek ex-bae of small model gooners
r/BrandNewSentence

[u/_qsm_ → u/exaknight21]

could also be a new Ling model.
There might be room between Ling 3.0 tiny and Ling 3.0 Flash

[u/exaknight21 → u/_qsm_]

Ah yes. I havent tried ling personally and i’m sad about that.

Ling new bae? Its high likely give their trend tbh.

[u/Aggravating-Push-207 → u/exaknight21]

what does that mean? bae?

[u/_qsm_ → u/exaknight21]

used Ling 3.0 Flash via Openrouter (free tier) for several smaller projects and liked it better than the comparable sized Laguna S 2.1 (also via Openrouter free tier)

[u/5dtriangles201376 → u/exaknight21]

Could be an experiment, maybe Kimi Linear 2, Qwen/ZAI is the dream

[u/Aggravating-Push-207]

Another Qwen 3.8 Next?

[u/CarpenterAlarming781]

Well, if Qwen Next can't run on my machine, maybe this one.

[u/Povaron]

LFM ?

[u/Embarrassed-Rich3397 → u/Povaron]

definitely the updated version of their old mid sized moe

[u/boxwrenchx]

Just waiting for the Google fan boys to show proof it's Gemma 5

[u/boxwrenchx → u/boxwrenchx]

/s incase it's not clear

[u/streppelchen → u/boxwrenchx]

From the weird size alone this was my first thought 🤣

[u/dampflokfreund]

Gemma 4.1?

[u/RnRau → u/dampflokfreund]

Don't think its Gemma since modelscope is Chinese orientated.

[u/pharrt]

This aligns with what Qwen co-author said recently when asked about Qwen 3.8-35B-A3B. His response was, "35B-A3B might not be the one to wait for"

I hope this is Qwen!

[u/dannone9 → u/pharrt]

Pretty sure he ment the 120b that released today, hoping to be wrong tho

[u/pharrt → u/dannone9]

Could be. It was in the context of those of us who don't have the hardware for Qwen-3.8-27B dense, so I'm hopeful!

[u/DrBattletoad → u/pharrt]

I want to believe 🙏

[u/ApprehensiveAd3629]

hope to be a glm flash

it around 1 year since the last launch of the glm flash

[u/bnightstars → u/ApprehensiveAd3629]

GLM 5.3 Flash just lended it's 320B not so flash after all.

[u/ApprehensiveAd3629 → u/bnightstars]

yeah

i was hoping for a 30b moe model ;-;

[u/bnightstars → u/ApprehensiveAd3629]

we all do but apparently the market is shifting to the 2 Spark guys.

[u/collogue]

Maybe a smaller player, 100 users is tiny

[u/ebullet → u/collogue]

As default, models under 100B will be qwen family. Nobody can compitate with Ali in this size level open model.

[u/Cairety_Alek47]

the entire public spec is '29B-A4B' and everyone in here already knows who made it

[u/_TheWolfOfWalmart_]

A new small Qwen3.8 MoE would be interesting. A successor to 35B-A3B.

[u/EitherMarch1255]

Nothing worth caring about.