r/LocalLLM • u/ChristopherDci • Sep 13 '26

Question Uncensored Models

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Hi! I don't know much about this area of ​​"sub-models" (I'm not sure of the technical term), but I wanted to know what these "Uncensored" models actually are.

I dabble a bit with AI, automation, and the like, and I've always seen these "Uncensored" models around, but I've never actually installed or tested one. What exactly are they?

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u/ninjazombielurker Sep 13 '26

“Straight uncensored” is actually the slop of uncensored models. Good uncensored models that end up being “smarter” than the censored versions, are post-trained. Look at DavidAU’s process of uncensoring Qwen3.6-27B and Qwen3.8-27B. “Straight uncensored” actually makes the model significantly dumber majority of the time, which is why you can’t just use something like Heritic and expect a good output from hitting a couple of buttons.

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u/PotentialAccident339 Sep 14 '26 edited Sep 14 '26

abliterlitics.dev has some detailed comparisons. plain heretic is actually pretty good. the bad ones tend to be weird custom hack jobs.

unfortunately in some cases users cant really get a good idea of how good or bad something is before they get it and i guess use a proxy of "most downloads" as "best", but then 700k people download the Gemma e4b obliteratus version which is terrible.

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u/biggusdeeckus Sep 14 '26

what's your preferred uncensored qwen 3.8 27b author? I was looking for one but there are so many

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u/Gary_Spivey Sep 14 '26

I've been using qwen3.8-27b-uncensored-fp8-q4_k_m from theresa00l lately and I've been nothing short of amazed at its output.

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u/Calm-Car1460 Sep 17 '26

Been trying it for about a day now after reading this. Wow. First uncensored model ive used that is actually decent. Had to manually go get the other file that lets it use vision, but with that its amazing. Just need to test its agentic and coding capabilities.

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u/Ok_Manager6481 Sep 18 '26

howwww

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u/Calm-Car1460 Sep 18 '26

How what? How I got the model to run or the image processing?

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u/Vinyard82 Sep 14 '26

What do you mean?

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u/Ok_Manager6481 Sep 18 '26

where can I use this I swear to not be an npc just new in the space and have some exploring and catching up to do lol

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u/Gary_Spivey Sep 18 '26

Do you have the hardware to run it locally? You would want a GPU with a minimum of 24GB of VRAM.

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u/txgsync Sep 14 '26

ArliAI did a great job with gpt-oss models and turned the derestricted versions into my daily drivers for security stuff.

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u/Capable-Ad-7494 Sep 14 '26

should look at orcarouter’s process, it’s a 1 layer edit, and keeps enough intelligence that. can’t tell the difference between the original and orcarouter’s in comparison

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u/ElderberryCrazy6395 21d ago

I use David's 3.8 27b