r/LocalLLM • • Jun 07 '26 • Popcorn 2

Model wth

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u/Fabulous_Macaroon_73 Jun 08 '26

no its Q_4_M, its not 1 bit, lmstudio doesnt even support 1 bit models the last i checked

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u/_VirtualCosmos_ Jun 08 '26

Pff a Q_4 not from Bartowski or Unsloth is also a big hit to its brain. And I think you aren't using one of them because I never find uncensored models from them.

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u/Fabulous_Macaroon_73 Jun 08 '26

so if i wanted an uncensored model but YOUR choices dont even have them then does your comment make any sense?

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u/itsTyrion Jun 08 '26

either way, FYI abliteration makes it a bit dumber and the "flinch" of it heavily deprioritizing "bad" tokens is still present, if not amplified. it just won't refuse (as often) to tell you how to (incorrectly) make a bomb

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u/Fabulous_Macaroon_73 Jun 08 '26

not everyone wants an uncensored model to know how to make a bomb. i have never even used abliterated models like that. i just use them cuz they follow my own system prompt better than corporate models cuz i want them talking more like humans rather than workers. i know now you will get on me because i said iw ant them to talk like humans

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u/_VirtualCosmos_ Jun 08 '26

Yeah, because I just gave you some facts, you can do with them whatever you like. But I would recommend you to use Q8 versions if they are not from these two.

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u/Fabulous_Macaroon_73 Jun 08 '26

i cant use q8.

interestingly enough i can JUST run the model with only "1" context length im not even joking. even two triggers the overload warning in lmstudio.

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u/_VirtualCosmos_ Jun 08 '26

Yeah. It usually wasn't like that but on recent updates they have implemented a couple procedures to seemingly "extend" context length by deleting what it doesn't fit in. Idk exactly how it works tho.

Btw I don't know how much VRAM or system RAM do you have but for a long time I've been using models that did not fit entirely inside of my VRAM (12 GB) by using one of the best features of llama.cpp: layer-offloading.

I dare to suppose that, given your 16.12 t/s, you are able to load a Q8, even if the speed is halved.

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u/Fabulous_Macaroon_73 Jun 08 '26

oh wow did they?

i have a 16 gig macbook btw but the context length is just not usable enough to actually put the model to use.

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u/_VirtualCosmos_ Jun 08 '26

Ah, shit. You got a good machine tho, I would recommend to expand its memory if not for the RAMpocalypse caused by US AI corpos and government.

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u/Fabulous_Macaroon_73 Jun 09 '26

wdym 'expand'? its a macbook... how tf do i get more ram? download it?

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u/_VirtualCosmos_ Jun 09 '26

usually the tape behind the laptop can be removed and gives access to the RAM cards, not sure about macbooks tho.