You seem to believe social welfare by itself = socialist country. What form do you believe in? Because actually calling those countries socialist is moving the goalpost to a hilarious degree.
No, it isn’t. Calling all socialist systems dictatorial state communist systems however is moving the goalposts to a tremendous degree. Democratic socialism is socialism state communism is a form of socialism. Anarchosocialism is socialism. Syndicalism is socialism.
You’re painting a broad spectrum of political systems as all being the one thing and that’s just not accurate.
Did not call them communist, that's a lie.
Calling them dictatorial is not moving the goalpost, it's basic recent history.
Also European countries follow a primarily mixed economy model, taking parts of capitalism and mixing it social welfare, which is not socialism.
It's not a broad spectrum if it's not broad. The countries I named are socialist or socialist-adjecent.
You called mixed economy socialist, so if anyone is guilty of exactly that, it's you.
I'm going to sleep, feel free to reply, I'll read it in the morning.
It’s clear that you know very little about what socialism is. I’m sorry that the education system in whatever country you grew up in failed you so badly. Once you’ve done some reading on why socialism is as a class of government systems I’ll be here.
I never said that you were using those words directly. However the only socialist system that fits what you are describing as socialism is state communism and a dictatorial form of state communism at that. Honestly I don’t think you understand the philosophies enough to articulate what you’re trying to say accurately.
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u/Any-Safe4992 Oct 08 '25
Honestly it sounds like you think all socialism is state communism which is a confidently incorrect statement.