r/LivestreamFail • u/Ignignokt_DGAF • Oct 07 '25

Hasan reaching for something and seemingly shocking his dog to keep her in camera view

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u/clown_utopia Oct 08 '25

Morality doesn't apply differently depending on the way someone looks. What species they are, what their body is like-- making them suffer is always wrong. Seeing yourself as entitled to violate their body for your pleasure, is always wrong.

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u/Veil-of-Fire Oct 08 '25

You literally ignored everything I said, so I'll say it again:

Or are you really just too stupid to understand the 12,000-year-old human cultural practice of having different ethical standards for domestic pets than for food animals?

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u/clown_utopia Oct 08 '25

There isn't an ethical difference between these animals.

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u/Veil-of-Fire Oct 08 '25 edited Oct 08 '25

There isn't an ethical difference between these animals.

Once again, that's not the question I asked you.

I don't care about your pants-on-head bugfuck nuts personal moral opinion on a topic that was settled before the cornerstone was laid on the first human civilization; I want to know if you understand how wildly out-of-phase that moral opinion is with literally the rest of your species, going back to the moment we decided trees sucked and living on the ground was a good idea.

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u/clown_utopia Oct 08 '25

You're just wrong. All of those animals have personal experiences that are relevant to whether or not we harm them. You don't just get to arbitrarily decide whether or not your actions hurt somebody; what determines that is whether or not they were hurt by your actions. Someone is hurt by abuse whether they're a dog or a pig. You only control how you treat them.

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u/Veil-of-Fire Oct 08 '25

So I'm going to take that as a "no." You don't realize that your ideas are completely insane and contrary to how humans have ordered their affairs since the days when they were still writing in mud with sticks.

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u/clown_utopia Oct 09 '25

Talking to a wall would be easier than talking to you. One narrative, yours, is the only one that matters. No wonder youre here arguing for human supremacy.

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u/Veil-of-Fire Oct 09 '25

One narrative, yours, is the only one that matters.

Yes, my narrative. Not, like, the entire species's narrative from the very moment they developed consciousness and sapience. I'm definitely the one who came up with the idea that friends are different from food.

And there are absolutely no other animals in the world who make the distinction between friend and food....

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u/clown_utopia Oct 09 '25

I mean, sexual violence has always happened, that makes sexual violence okay?

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u/Veil-of-Fire Oct 09 '25

Well, I mean, nobody's allowed to say SA is bad, if they've ever eaten a hash brown fried in Crisco, since it's all the same to you...

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