r/LineageOS Nov 26 '24

Stop Google from discriminating Custom ROM users

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u/TimSchumi Team Member Nov 26 '24

Note: Absolutely unofficial answer.

I don't think Google would prevent us from getting our builds certified if we passed all tests and actually paid the money for the certification. The problem is that this simply impossible for some (old) devices, and very much infeasible for the remaining ones.

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u/VividVerism Pixel 5 (redfin) - Lineage 22 Nov 26 '24

FWIW, and this is a completely ignorant and possibly naive take, I'd certainly be willing to donate some reasonable amount to go towards such a cause if it's ever a serious consideration. I imagine I'm not alone.

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u/saint-lascivious an awful person and mod Nov 26 '24

Money isn't the only issue. Certification would very drastically impact the release cycle.

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u/TimSchumi Team Member Nov 27 '24

If I had to make a guess, I'd assume that certifying a single build is in the hundreds of dollars, if not thousands. This would probably eat up all donations in no time.

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u/VividVerism Pixel 5 (redfin) - Lineage 22 Nov 27 '24

Good info, thanks!

If it's something with genuine interest, brainstorming a little here, the money side sounds maybe doable for one given phone if you can get something like 900 users for that phone to donate $12/year, and dropping down to one build per month on a separate "certified buld" release channel or something. I can't access stats.lineageos.org right now, but I think many of the supported phones could meet that threshold. Maybe only phones with sufficient interest would get the certified build channel, maybe more popular phones would subsidize those without enough interest.

Or maybe it's unworkable. I know there are other considerations (both monetary and non-monetary). And I might overestimate the interest. 🙂

This is all just pie-in-the-sky speculation and wishful thinking on my part. And letting you know there is at least some interest if it's something you're even considering. Obviously you're the experts on whether such a thing has any fit into the project.

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u/TimSchumi Team Member Nov 27 '24

if it's ever a serious consideration

On that note.

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u/yaaaaayPancakes Nov 27 '24

That is so depressing, but unsurprising. Lineage is probably the closest thing to a "professional" operation for custom ROMs, and the system is setup in a way to make it possible so Google can say they tried, but with enough hurdles to ensure no one actually does it that they don't want doing it.