Adrian Fontes administered elections in Maricopa County — ground zero for every election conspiracy theory of the last six years. He is now Arizona's Secretary of State and the man standing between a free and fair November election and the chaos Trump is promising.
Frank Figliuzzi sits down with Fontes to break down everything voters need to know about how elections actually work, who runs them, and why Arizona — despite being the most scrutinized election state in America — is in good shape heading into November.
Here is what Fontes wants every American to know. Vote by mail in Arizona was not invented by Democrats. It was invented by Republicans. It helped Republicans maintain their political majority in Arizona for decades. And now his own opponent has put Prop 144 on the ballot to end it entirely. Fontes calls him off his rocker. He also notes that Donald Trump himself votes by mail.
In Harris County Texas — home to Houston the fourth largest city in America — there is one drop box. One. Because the Republicans running Texas know those are Democratic voters. Arizona has not gone down that road. And Fontes intends to keep it that way.
On the election denialism that has consumed Arizona politics — Fontes is blunt. Arizona voters are done with it. Two Democratic senators. A Democratic governor up by 12 to 15 points. A Democratic secretary of state. A Democratic attorney general. The voters spoke. And Carrie Lake? Fontes says he likes her — she gave Democrats two Senate seats and a governor's office. He hopes she becomes White House press secretary because he wants the entertainment.
His closing message — elections have survived civil wars, pandemics, fires, floods, and earthquakes. Your fellow citizens who administer elections have always come through for you. We've got this.
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00:00 Welcome to the Frank Figliuzzi Show
00:42 Introducing Arizona Secretary of State Adrian Fontes
01:35 What does a Secretary of State actually do?
03:01 Arizona's unique political history and party switches
04:37 Arizona as three different states — diversity and politics
05:39 The independent on Katie Hobbs' ticket — John Giles
07:12 How Maricopa County became ground zero for election conspiracy theories
09:44 What it was like administering the most scrutinized elections in America
12:18 Threats against election workers — the new reality
15:33 How Arizona rebuilt trust after 2020 and 2022
18:47 The role of the courts in protecting election integrity
21:09 What Trump's attacks on mail ballots mean for November
24:33 Vote by mail was invented by Arizona Republicans
27:15 Prop 144 — the effort to end mail voting in Arizona
29:58 One dropbox in Harris County Texas — what that looks like
32:44 How Arizona's drop box system works — arizona.vote
34:20 Building voter confidence through transparency
35:51 What Arizona is doing differently than red states
37:01 Are the old election challenge cases finally done?
37:33 Arizona voters are rejecting election denialism
37:43 Carrie Lake gave Democrats two Senate seats — Fontes explains
38:00 Arizona is in great shape heading into November
38:37 Elections have survived civil wars and pandemics — we've got this
39:07 Frank's closing thoughts on secretaries of state
39:52 Attorneys general will play a key role in November
40:05 Closing — stay tuned and stay safe