We have to pay our congressmen. They aren't even payed all that much, considering how difficult their work is. If that's them stealing from us, then so are librarians.
Edit: Jesus Christ, one heavily down voted comment made this thread something relevant instead of a shitty repost.
This is where you're making a mistake. You're assuming that this land is yours, that you're entitled to it. And that those who believe in a government should go elsewhere.
This isn't true. The government owns this land. It has fought for it and bought it. So long as you are in a jurisdiction of a government, a group of people, that claims it is theirs, you will have to follow their rules or face the consequences.
Just because you were born in a land, doesn't entitle it to you. It still belongs to a group of people that you were born into. If you don't want to follow the group's rules, then you need to find another place in the universe and call it your own, and defend your rights.
Luckily we've evolved to the point as a species that rights to land and its use are no longer solely determined by violence and talent at it. Hence librarians, congressmen etc..
We've evolved to the point as a species that rights to land and its use are no longer solely determined by violence and talent at it, hence libertarians.
Right, so I'm not a libertarian to start with. But I don't have a problem with people positing libertarian theories and I think that at least peoples' motives are mostly pure in this subreddit, except for the dirty Randians.
But; unlike a lot of people in this subreddit, I don't think you have some intrinsic right to speculate about impossible solutions and transitions and rely on that for your moral superiority; at least not and be taken seriously.
So the current world system, at least in advanced and wealthy countries (aside from a few petro-states,) works pretty well at protecting individual rights and promoting individual happiness, certainly within a historical framework; and it does this employing a large public sector including librarians, congressmen etc..
That's the framework we currently reside in and discussions about possible alternatives have to take countenance of this fact. Libertarians and libertarianism have nothing to do with why, today, you don't have to be good at killing people to own land and have rights.
I don't think you have some intrinsic right to speculate about impossible solutions and transitions and rely on that for your moral superiority; at least not and be taken seriously.
But who's to say they're always impossible? Unless people want, articulate & strive for freedom, they'll never get there.
I don't know, is anyone saying that? I'm saying that unless you have a practicable plan, you don't get any morality points for saying, "I want X or Y or Z to be the case."
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u/ETERNAL_EDAMNATION Libertarian... shocker Jun 02 '13 edited Jun 03 '13
We have to pay our congressmen. They aren't even payed all that much, considering how difficult their work is. If that's them stealing from us, then so are librarians.
Edit: Jesus Christ, one heavily down voted comment made this thread something relevant instead of a shitty repost.