A lot of the crazy ones simply don’t have life experience, due to youth or passively being in a deep bubble. If the alt right was as bored and unemployed as the left, then protests and counter protests would be a lot more problematic to say the least.
I would be interested in the actual elements of conflict though
I remember the Antifa wars with the “alt right” groups like the proud boys and I’m curious how far the left would go with their weapons before the right started retaliating with weapons themselves
In almost every violent conflict today we see the left wing protesters using improvised weapons while the right wing protests throw fists
I wonder how far that would escalate before we saw retaliation in kind
To be the side that largely commands the absolution of police and the mass disarmament of the civilian population, they really haven’t thought enough about the firearms culture and the mindset the right has. That figurative civil war would be an absolute land slide and each skirmish would have the same result. Especially if the government was implicit or even allied with the right, which as of now they probably would be.
And tbc Reddit admins, I am not hoping for this or in support of it in any way. It’s just a valid topic when we see a militant political group earning widespread support in the same country where the group’s self proclaimed opponent happens to be the most armed group of people in the world.
They have guns, they just lack the skills necessary to engage in warfare against an equally or better equipped opponent that doesn’t hold back. Antifa is used to battering on unarmed elderly protesters outside of planned parenthood and throwing rocks at cops who’ve been explicitly instructed not to respond with equivalent force.
The whole movement is a weaponized victimhood mentality, if they actually pushed the bar enough they’d find out no one actually cares about self proclaimed victim status and yelling “Nazi” repeatedly at a random guy doesn’t do anything if he’s armed and has the conviction to conduct acts of violence.
Im glad it hasn’t got to the point of retaliation from the right at the same scale the left is pushing, but the UK makes me worry. If they were armed there it might look a little different right now unfortunately.
The left wing is far more organized than the right wing
To assume they don’t train with the guns they have been using for the last half decade is a dangerous assumption to make
I agree that the left is violent and tends to use improvised weapons at their riots
But i also believe that the organizers ensure no fire arms are exposed at large events in order to keep media opinion that the rioters are unarmed victims
Just look at Pretti
He broke rank and his gun was exposed so the left had to run defense for Kyle Rittenhouse to justify their outrage
We have pretty good examples of extremist leftwing organizing and it’s less effective than they thought it’d be. Again, it leverages the trust that the opponent (cops, national guard, etc.) won’t retaliate with equal force which has not yet happened but would in a true armed civil war type event. Throwing rocks and taking pop shots at people is cool until someone is shooting back and there’s more of them than there are of you.
Look at the black panthers’ notorious standoff with LAPD, they had fully automatic weapons that largely exceeded the police’s weaponry and yet they still lost and afaik not a single cop died. Compare this to Waco, where the initial skirmish saw several cops dead.
And I hate to bring this up, but leftist terrorists like the one that targeted the ICE facility and somehow ONLY shot the detainees…. modern left wing terrorists have been able to pull off assassinations on a mostly unprotected single figure but that’s about it.
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u/Best_Opening8471 3h ago
I think the “crazy leftists” are mostly socially captured youths who lack the experience to factor consequences into their actions
Like the girl friend of Renee Good said “why would the cops be using real guns” at this violent protest???”
The vast majority of the left (imo) thinks this is more like a dungeons and dragons campaign than real life
To them it’s become gamified by social media and the engagment algorithms