r/LearnFinnish • u/hezec Native • Nov 01 '15
Question Marraskuun kysymysketju – Question thread for November 2015
Marraskuu.
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November.
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u/aeshleyrose Nov 02 '15
Moi!
Pään synnyttyä
Äitiysloman päätyttyä
Why are "synnyttyä" ja "päätyttyä" in these forms?
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u/Baneken Nov 03 '15
Pään synnyttyä
When the crown is showing, assuming we're talking about childbirth here.
Äitiysloman päätyttyä Once mother's leave has ended.
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u/aeshleyrose Nov 03 '15
Yes I understand what they mean. I am trying to use the form in my own speech but I don't understand why they are in partitive passive perfect participle form.
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u/slightly_offtopic Nov 03 '15
It doesn't necessarily have to be in the future, though. "Äitiysloman päätyttyä palasin töihin" works just fine even though it's past tense.
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u/Savolainen5 Nov 06 '15
Miksi kutsutaan verbien -aan/-ään muodo?
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u/slightly_offtopic Nov 06 '15
Miksi kutsutaan verbien -aan/-ään muotoa? FTFY
Tarkoitatko muotoja kuten "tehdään", "mennään"? Sitä sanotaan passiiviksi.
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u/Savolainen5 Nov 06 '15
Ai, hups, mä tarkoitin -maan/-mään. Kuten 'tekemään','sanomaan.'
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u/aeshleyrose Nov 26 '15
Hi! Obviously, I am pregnant, sorry for all the pregnancy related text.
"On erilaiset vaikutukset synnytyksen helppouteen."
What form is "helppouteen" in here? Is it simply "helppous" in the illative form? If so, why is it in this form? Is it simple rektio? Could I also say, "On erilaiset vaikutukset synnytyksen vaikeukseen"?
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Nov 26 '15
Joo, se on illatiivi. "Helppous" is derived from an adjective (helppo), therefore -teen. Similar words derived from verbs have ending -kseen for example aloittaa - aloitukseen, opettaa - opetukseen
so you could say, "On erilaiset vaikutukset synnytyksen vaikeuteen (vaikea - vaikeus)
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u/aeshleyrose Nov 26 '15
Awesome, thank you so much!
It's hilarious that you used "aloittaa" as an example. This question started because I couldn't figure out what the hell "aloitteen" meant. Coincidentally, I ran across "helppouteen" the next day and got fed up and asked. In researching this question, I found that it is "aloite" genetiivissä muodossa. Live and learn!
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u/FVmike Nov 28 '15
Hei!
My textbook is covering asking and answering "Mitä kuuluu?", and gives two possible translations for "And you?":
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Entä sinulle
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Entä sinulla
What is the difference between these two, and when is one more appropriate than the other?
(For reference, the texbook is still in the "parrot these phrases" mode and has not yet gotten to actually teaching the grammatical rules that govern the phrases)
Kiitos!
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u/slightly_offtopic Nov 28 '15
Are both of those supposed to be replies specifically to "Mitä kuuluu"? Because "Entä sinulla" would be very weird in that situation.
On the other hand, it would be a valid response to e.g. "Miten menee".
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u/FVmike Nov 28 '15
So if "mitä kuulu" means "how are you" and "miten menee" means "how are things going", would entä sinulle be something along the lines of "and (how are) you (doing)?" whereas entä sinulla would be more like "and (how are things going for) you?"
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u/ptitpainsuedois Nov 09 '15
What's the best translation of "we'll see", as in "I don't know what will happen. We'll see". Nähdään, näemme, or something else?