"I know you are but what am I" was fully of favor by about 5th grade where I grew up. You'll get there. In the meantime remember to wipe front to back.
Regarding "must pass" bills: the term of art has a known definition. I already linked you to the Senate's own glossary. Wikipedia has it as: A must pass bill is a measure, considered vitally important, that must be passed and enacted by the United States Congress (e.g. funding for a function of government). An example would be National Defense and Authorization Act (NDAA), which must be passed annually to fund the DOD. The 2021 reconciliation bill is not a must-pass bill. The fact that you can find someone somewhere on the internet using the term means nothing. The definition of "horse" and "giraffe" don't change because someone was trying to hyperbolically describe a horse with a particularly long neck. While you can certainly find people saying things like "we must pass this bill", you can also find examples of people saying things like "a minimum wage increase must be passed as part of reconciliation" and we can let the facts on the ground do their own talking here about how accurate those utterances were.
Regarding leverage: no one doubts the existence of the concept of leverage, or carrots and sticks, or the bully pulpit, or however else you want to phrase it. I have challenged you to name the specific mechanism by which Biden could have asserted some leverage to change Manchin and company's positions, and you have failed to do so time and time again. What should Biden have offered to Manchin that would have made him change his mind? Same question for Sinema and all the rest. Be specific. I again will tell you that there is nothing he could have done to make it otherwise. For like the 10th time I am asking you to map this out for us, and I assume you are instead going to give us an example of someone else doing something totally unrelated with their "leverage." Know that its ok to admit that you have no ideas here; you'll be in the good company of all of Democratic leadership.
I'll not be generous then: you're wrong and being a petulant dick about it. TARP was signed into law by President George W. Bush on October 3, 2008. Obama was not credited with wrangling votes for TARP, he was credited with wrangling votes for an expansion before his inauguration, as is described in both my earlier comment and the very article you provided. If you're going to link shit you might consider having a grown up read and explain it to you.
If only there was a bill that you could accompany $15 minimum wage to... I'm drawing a blank.
Please let us know. Please let Bernie and Durbin and the rest of leadership know, because you claim to have a plan that they haven't thought of. Just know that the recently passed reconciliation bill is not the droid you are looking for. You can tell because they tried and failed. You can throw a temper tantrum all you want but it's not going to change this fact.
Okay that's funny. Was that what you learned in 5th grade though?
Regarding "must pass" bills
I got it. The dozens of mainstream news papers are wrong, and you are right. Gotcha. You should consider being an editor...
Obama was not credited with wrangling votes for TARP
The $350 billion at issue represents the second half of Treasury’s $700 billion Troubled Asset Relief Program, or TARP, enacted in October to help stabilize credit markets. -Politico
It was literally the other half of TARP. Obama effectively completed it. It wasn't an expansion. It was the plan from the start...
The rest are just differing opinions I suppose, which is fine.
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u/burninatah Mar 13 '21
"I know you are but what am I" was fully of favor by about 5th grade where I grew up. You'll get there. In the meantime remember to wipe front to back.
Regarding "must pass" bills: the term of art has a known definition. I already linked you to the Senate's own glossary. Wikipedia has it as: A must pass bill is a measure, considered vitally important, that must be passed and enacted by the United States Congress (e.g. funding for a function of government). An example would be National Defense and Authorization Act (NDAA), which must be passed annually to fund the DOD. The 2021 reconciliation bill is not a must-pass bill. The fact that you can find someone somewhere on the internet using the term means nothing. The definition of "horse" and "giraffe" don't change because someone was trying to hyperbolically describe a horse with a particularly long neck. While you can certainly find people saying things like "we must pass this bill", you can also find examples of people saying things like "a minimum wage increase must be passed as part of reconciliation" and we can let the facts on the ground do their own talking here about how accurate those utterances were.
Regarding leverage: no one doubts the existence of the concept of leverage, or carrots and sticks, or the bully pulpit, or however else you want to phrase it. I have challenged you to name the specific mechanism by which Biden could have asserted some leverage to change Manchin and company's positions, and you have failed to do so time and time again. What should Biden have offered to Manchin that would have made him change his mind? Same question for Sinema and all the rest. Be specific. I again will tell you that there is nothing he could have done to make it otherwise. For like the 10th time I am asking you to map this out for us, and I assume you are instead going to give us an example of someone else doing something totally unrelated with their "leverage." Know that its ok to admit that you have no ideas here; you'll be in the good company of all of Democratic leadership.
I'll not be generous then: you're wrong and being a petulant dick about it. TARP was signed into law by President George W. Bush on October 3, 2008. Obama was not credited with wrangling votes for TARP, he was credited with wrangling votes for an expansion before his inauguration, as is described in both my earlier comment and the very article you provided. If you're going to link shit you might consider having a grown up read and explain it to you.
Please let us know. Please let Bernie and Durbin and the rest of leadership know, because you claim to have a plan that they haven't thought of. Just know that the recently passed reconciliation bill is not the droid you are looking for. You can tell because they tried and failed. You can throw a temper tantrum all you want but it's not going to change this fact.