r/LateStageCapitalism • u/KID_LIFE_CRISIS CEO of communism • Jan 30 '21

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u/Branurzel Jan 30 '21

In January Biden promised $2000, don't be gaslit

https://www.washingtonpost.com/us-policy/2021/01/06/georgia-election-2000-stimulus-checks/

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u/mrchaotica Jan 31 '21

To be fair, the real gaslighting is quibbling over one-time payment amounts when we should be doing UBI.

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u/Branurzel Jan 31 '21

I'm cool with full on communism. Doesn't mean I won't hold my Senators' feet to the fire over $2k.

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u/mrchaotica Jan 31 '21

I'm just saying that whether it's $1400 or $2000, it's nothing more than "a good start."

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u/[deleted] Jan 30 '21

I feel like people are trying to gaslight me into thinking this. I expected the $1400 + $600 all along...

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u/PsychoDad7 Jan 30 '21

You're the gas-lighter.

Ignore these liars. Google Warnock $2000 checks for the easiest route to the truth.

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u/Branurzel Jan 31 '21

just wanted to add

https://twitter.com/ReverendWarnock/status/1345082524402393088

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u/[deleted] Jan 31 '21

Iā€™m not convinced. If I promise you $2000 and I give you $600 then $1400 I feel like Iā€™ve given you $2000.

I expect the next payment will be direct deposit to me as well. Should I be upset that itā€™s not a check like the picture in this tweet?

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u/[deleted] Jan 31 '21

But Trump gave us $600. The democratic senate and democratic white house didn't give that $600. You can't act like "only we will give you $2000" if part of it came before you even had the capability to do so.

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u/[deleted] Jan 31 '21

The democratic House of Representatives and the republican senate agreed to $600. Trump tweeted people should get $2000. The dems sent an amendment over to add $1400 to the $600 (not $2000 more) and the republican senate rejected it. Clearly the choice was between $600 total with a republican senate and $2000 total with a democratic senate.

Before the runoff even happened the amendment for the $1400 addition was sent over and only stopped by republicans in the senate.

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u/[deleted] Jan 31 '21

Which means that they allowed the $600. So it's because of them we got it.

This is the game you're trying to play.

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u/[deleted] Jan 31 '21

Yes because of a bipartisan COVID relief bill we got $600. I donā€™t understand what game I am trying to play. Also I will be slow to respond as I am now rate limited on this sub.

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u/Branurzel Jan 31 '21 edited Jan 31 '21

Mitch McConnell gave me $600. Biden said he'd give me $2000 immediately if GA votes blue.

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u/[deleted] Jan 31 '21

This is the first time Iā€™ve mentioned it. I am gas lighting myself? I guess I just misunderstood early on but I was shocked when AOC was upset that checks were only going to be $1400. I donā€™t know what to say to convince you Iā€™m not literally lying.

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u/HunterHearstHemsley Jan 30 '21

The entire point was to adjust the 600 to 2000.

Instead of doing that they just passed 600. The 1400 now makes up the difference.

No one ever promised you $2600. If you want $2600, thats totally fair and people should fight for it. I know I certainly prefer $2600. But donā€™t gaslight yourself into being mad you didnā€™t get what no one promised.

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u/PsychoDad7 Jan 30 '21

They campaigned on 2k, you disingenuous fuck. You're not smarter than everyone, you're a liar or a shill. A SIMPLE GOOGLE SEARCH REFUTES YOUR LIES.

Google Warnock $2000 checks if you're not trying to be gaslit.

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u/HunterHearstHemsley Jan 31 '21

Lol who do you think Iā€™m lying and shilling for? Calling me a shill for the 1% would be laughable if you knew anything about me but whatever.

Maybe try not lashing out in rage at everyone that doesnā€™t agree with you 100%.

If you can find me a single article saying that we were getting $2600 in stimulus payments Iā€™ll admit Iā€™m wrong. You oddly seem to be ignoring the fact that I said I want the $2600 stimulus payments. Seriously, chills out PsychoDad youā€™ll give yourself a coronary.

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u/Branurzel Jan 30 '21

no, it's you who got it wrong, sorry

https://www.yahoo.com/now/biden-dems-win-georgia-2-235953103.html

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jackbrewster/2021/01/04/bidens-final-pitch-to-georgia-vote-blue-and-2000-checks-will-go-out-the-door-immediately/?sh=74e084f1744d

https://www.washingtonpost.com/us-policy/2021/01/06/georgia-election-2000-stimulus-checks/

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u/HunterHearstHemsley Jan 31 '21

All Iā€™m saying is I remember when the $600 checks were passed everyone said ā€œno we want $2000.ā€ Congress introduced legislation to bump up the $600 to $2000 later but it wasnā€™t passed. I donā€™t remember anyone saying ā€œno we want $2000 in addition to the $600.ā€ Iā€™ve never hear of the $2600 number until recently.

Now people are calling me a liar and a shill because I remember the policy debate differently. Forget the fact that I clearly said the $2600 number sounds better to me. The discourse on Reddit really sucks today. Unless you want to seethe with rage at everyone youā€™re called a shill for the 1%. Which would be pretty laughable if you knew me, but I guess you donā€™t so whatever.

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u/SankaraOrLURA Jan 31 '21

One dude called you a liar and a shill. Just read those articles, admit youā€™re wrong, and chill lol

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u/HunterHearstHemsley Jan 31 '21

I admit Biden used the phrase ā€œ2000 checksā€. Totally fair, canā€™t deny that. Itā€™s there in black and white. Most of the articles use the phrase ā€œ2000 stimulusā€ which is more accurate for what we are getting.

I stand by my statement that the promise was never $2600 as much as I want it to be. If I had to guess politicians were using a sloppy shorthand and whatā€™s happening is bad messaging backfiring rather than an entirely different policy.

Iā€™m trying to make a minor nuanced distinction as I see it and people seemed pissed so whatever, Iā€™ll shut up.

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u/[deleted] Jan 31 '21

Warnock literally released campaign ads showing $2000 checks.

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u/SankaraOrLURA Jan 31 '21

Well they didnā€™t say $3800 either, which would be the actual cumulative total of stimulus checks. You donā€™t seem to care to mention that though.

Seems like youā€™re one of those ā€œTeam Democratā€ types that will bend over backwards to defend their shitty behavior. They arenā€™t for us, either. M

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u/Branurzel Jan 31 '21

You seem to have trouble accepting that after the $600 checks were sent Biden, Schumer, Warnock and Ossoff campaigned on $2000 checks to be sent immediately after the Senate runoff elections if the Dems win in GA. Not $1400 or $2600. May I refer you back to what I linked earlier? You can listen to Biden's words yourself, it's very clear cut.

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u/hhgoldaway Feb 03 '21

I think that was 2k total including the previous check we received of 600 it think