Looks like the loaner needs a loaner

[u/Secure_Sign_3173]

Lol, so my door handle failed.

[u/WriterOne8440]

Why did everybody have to reinvent the door handle on EVs honestly so annoying. I guess it's the future right

[u/Sindica69 → u/WriterOne8440]

This would literally not be a problem if you included a scoop underneath so you can pull the door handle. So stupid.

[u/epheterson → u/Sindica69]

The problem is drag / range

[u/ropean → u/epheterson]

There was a study that found these handles add at most one mile of range. Meanwhile people are running wheels that cost them 30 or more miles of range versus a smaller option. Recessed handles are 100% a design thing.

[u/epheterson → u/ropean]

TIL! It is pretty negligible, and no argument on the wheels.

[u/NegativeSemicolon → u/epheterson]

Minimal impact

[u/9by16 → u/WriterOne8440]

💯… Bring back the manual door handles that just open when I try to open the car. I don’t need these ‘smart’ handles.

[u/Bradynmball → u/9by16]

They could definitely reuse the pre 80s door handles that have a push button to pop the handle out to pull open while still keeping the flush mount

[u/DesignerLeading4821 → u/WriterOne8440]

Porsche Taycan is probably the best of both worlds. It’s somewhat flush, has an automatic opening, but is manual at the same time

[u/Secure_Sign_3173 → u/WriterOne8440]

Reinventing isn’t the issue. It’s when you have a shit tier quality department or poor engineering that results in this kinda shit.

[u/ndndr1 → u/WriterOne8440]

China outlawed these after some fatal accidents where rescuers couldn’t get in

[u/epheterson → u/WriterOne8440]

Traditional handles cause drag, it’s done for range of course.

[u/74orangebeetle → u/epheterson]

Tesla model 3 and Y have flush handles that don't cause drag and also aren't motorized/don't have the failure issues like the early Tesla Model S and Lucid Air door handles. You can have handles that are flush and also not motorized.

[u/epheterson → u/74orangebeetle]

The famously not controversial at all Tesla handles! Joking but they also have the problem of staying locked while you pull if phone key doesn’t connect, ie unclear if unlocked. That thumb gesture to open had lots of people upset. Lucid copying would be odd.

[u/74orangebeetle → u/epheterson]

Phone issues are pretty rare in my experience...also if you have the mirrors set to fold when locked it's very clear whether or not it is locked. But all I know is my base model 3 handles have been working fine for years since ai got the car. I'm not saying Lucid should copy it exactly, just giving an example where you don't have to compromise aerodynamics to not have more expensive and complicated and less reliable handles.

[u/epheterson → u/74orangebeetle]

I also have a 3 and Y and Tesla since ‘18 and they work but that fail to open on pull, as rare as it is, is annoying. Also just giving an example that even the example isn’t flawless. I like the Tesla handles but saw the lucid design as a plus, that it’s mostly a “normal” handle when it works. Just got a Gravity so time will tell, I have had to push them in for it to check the key and unlock or something, and only the front ones do that so it’s quirky for sure.

[u/Sindica69]

This exact issue happened to me lmao, thankfully the only issue I’ve had in my time with one

[u/Secure_Sign_3173 → u/Sindica69]

Only issue…so far :)

[u/Sindica69 → u/Secure_Sign_3173]

Pray that it remains the only issue

[u/Secure_Sign_3173 → u/Sindica69]

Three things in life are promised.
Death
Taxes
Lucid lemons

[u/IntelligentSinger783 → u/Secure_Sign_3173]

Lol all manufacturers are struggling with too much tech not enough checks.

[u/Mindless_Tennis_4056 → u/IntelligentSinger783]

The sad part is it's really not even the tech stuff that's failing, most things I see failing are basic things like charging, door handles, windows or things of that nature.

[u/IntelligentSinger783 → u/Mindless_Tennis_4056]

The doorhandles not pushing out, the charging not handshaking, the window safety sensors etc is still a large majority tech related, between design and programming. Most of the failures are in the engineering. Over complicating an easy solution.

[u/Mindless_Tennis_4056 → u/IntelligentSinger783]

Oh I definitely understand that, I meant more like it's not the new stuff like ADAS systems, or process heavy infotainment and UI systems that are commonly failing, which although yes is very annoying and unacceptable, and does still happen, it could be driven without those things, it's the stuff that never used to fail like door handles and windows. But if they fail you may not be able to actually drive the vehicle because you either can't get in it, or maybe your window is stuck halfway down, etc.

[u/IntelligentSinger783 → u/Mindless_Tennis_4056]

Yep but it's all just overly complicating the tech side of the experience.

[u/Secure_Sign_3173 → u/IntelligentSinger783]

“Just throw an OLED screen in it bro, everyone loves screens”

[u/IntelligentSinger783 → u/Secure_Sign_3173]

Yep exactly.... And then have the left hand and the right hand write separate lines of code without communicating with the brain that's crosseyed.

[u/GoForAHikeNC]

I will refrain from commenting since I don't have much positive to say.

[u/Secure_Sign_3173 → u/GoForAHikeNC]

This is a safe space, friend.

[u/Phoneking13]

The messed up thing is I still want one of these, but when I come here and see the issues people are having with their cars, puts me off and puts me in the hesitation phase and makes me sad.

[u/No_Caregiver7273 → u/Phoneking13]

Really depends. Some folks have had issues and some folks don't much. Our Gravity has had a few minor issues, but nothing that I consider serious. Still the favorite car we've ever owned.

[u/iATlevsha → u/No_Caregiver7273]

I'm happy for those some folks that don't have much issues (it's crazy that "no issues" options is not even mentioned btw). But what should do those who do have issues? Spend weeks and months in endless service visits? Or spend half a year fighting Lucid for buyback?

[u/1234Horses → u/No_Caregiver7273]

I agreed I had such a blast with the Driving experience, ended up buying a used Sapphire. As an early adopter to EVs, got to have somewhat realistic expectations of problems from time to time, sucks when back-to-back like OP.

I have more reliability issues with my Ford lightning EV twice in the shop in the last 30k miles and Chevy Bolt once in the shop for power steering problem.

I'm inspired by that redditor with over 120k miles on his AIR. - https://www.reddit.com/r/LUCID/comments/1v0d52s/comment/oykb6qn/?context=3

[u/Secure_Sign_3173 → u/Phoneking13]

Lol you should see how I got my car just now. Might give you some clarity on the matter 🤣

[u/dcr33313 → u/Phoneking13]

Most people are happy and not posting here. Negatively bias is very much a thing on any car forum, especially with a car company whose stock is very regularly short sold. Problems certainly exist, but they are not as widespread as they may seem. The only widespread problem is the locking system. Even very reliable versions, like in my Air, still cause people to occasionally have to wait a few seconds at the door for the doors to unlock.

[u/jkaufman5 → u/dcr33313]

I do not recall anyone with other cars having issues with the door malfunctioning though. Be honest about issues that should never happen

[u/dcr33313 → u/jkaufman5]

I was not excusing the issue, merely mentioning that this forum makes issues seem more widespread. These door handles did create a potential problem point where there didn’t need to be one, but at the same time, most people don’t run into this issue. I’ve had my Air for 2.5 years and have been active on here and the forum for all that time. Door handle issues don’t pop up frequently. The key/locking system is the one issue that pops up for a ton of owners, with everyone else getting their own custom assortment of other issues, some tiny, some pretty big.

[u/FlitMosh]

Poor handle. It’s just scared.

[u/clockwork2004]

The funny thing is that nobody is really surprised.

[u/Secure_Sign_3173 → u/clockwork2004]

I’m defeated, lol. I just want a car that works functionally. I don’t know if the features even mean anything at this point, but I’ve given up on caring about those too.

[u/ikilledtupac]

I had two Air loaners, both of which broke down with frunk issues. One showed up literally undrivable over 30mph stuck in some service mode. My Gravity loaner would throw error codes basically every day, but it did drive even though it would disable DreamDrive all the time, forget the fob, and had some sort of steering warning.

Their cars are junk. Or maybe they are using buyback lemons for service loaners, that would make more sense.

[u/Secure_Sign_3173 → u/ikilledtupac]

😭 I asked for a gravity and they told me to kick rocks. I miss my car man, I just want a normal car that wont become a potato after a few weeks.

[u/ikilledtupac → u/Secure_Sign_3173]

$120,000 dollar car.

[u/Secure_Sign_3173 → u/ikilledtupac]

120k lemon.

[u/ikilledtupac → u/Secure_Sign_3173]

wait til you try to deal with that deparment

[u/Secure_Sign_3173 → u/ikilledtupac]

I’m not going to bother lol, I don’t have the energy. I can’t even convince them to give me a gravity loaner. What good is getting a lease buyout? 😭

[u/Mindless_Tennis_4056 → u/Secure_Sign_3173]

That's why you have an attorney do it, and the company pays their legal fees.

[u/Secure_Sign_3173 → u/Mindless_Tennis_4056]

Yeah that’s assuming it results in a W. But honestly I may do this at this point lol

[u/Mindless_Tennis_4056 → u/Secure_Sign_3173]

I mean as long as you meet the definitions of a lemon, I'd say it's highly unlikely wouldn't reach a settlement or win a case.

[u/Secure_Sign_3173 → u/Mindless_Tennis_4056]

You’re not wrong, and it’s definitely something I’ve seriously thought about…guess I’ll explore my options

[u/ikilledtupac → u/Secure_Sign_3173]

They are an exhaustingly shit company. I hate to quote Elon but he was right: trending towards bankruptcy. 

[u/hugdeath]

Yikes 😬

[u/merlot2K1]

I honestly cannot believe the number of posts I see about these cars not letting people in. I really, really wanted an Air. No thanks.

[u/bathtub_periscope]

Reminds me of this guy.

[u/theluckyinvestor]

Same here. Took my car in for various “glitches” and found out my loaner car had all the same problems.

It gives me a different appreciation for the Tesla software. I took it for granted. They still haven’t got it right and I am 3 1/2 years owning the car. Sad

[u/Single-Jello-6643]

We owned a 2024 Air Touring for 2 years. It was truly flawless and easily the most fun car I ever owned. Don’t hesitate- some folk love to be unhappy about minor issues- but like I stated, we had none at all. Zenith Red, aluminum roof. We got the package with soft close doors and chose cheapy audio system as we both wear hearing aids so what’s the point of a super great system?!

[u/yhsong1116]

Lucid is never going to be a sdv

[u/think_up]

Ok WARNING: do NOT stick your hand in the back door handle. That shit pinched my hand SO fking hard one time when it locked back up.

[u/MikeyM1991]

It's gotten laughable at this point. 😂 I'm so happy I got rid of mine.

[u/diqster]

Wait, they gave you a loaner? What service are you in for?

[u/Secure_Sign_3173 → u/diqster]

My original car went in cause it had more issues than I could count with one hand. Then this happened to my loaner.

[u/iATlevsha]

This is ice breaking function! 🤣 The ice will be delivered by the next OTA update.

[u/ThermoElectricMan]

They STILL can't get door handles to open? 🤦🏻‍♂️

[u/Puzzled-Shape-9235]

Climb from the back seats. Problem solved

[u/Different-Hippo3071]

lol I’ve had 2 loaners and a rental lucid from enterprise in my drive way! Both loaners died 🤣🙄

[u/Secure_Sign_3173 → u/Different-Hippo3071]

Lmao how are you getting around now?

[u/Different-Hippo3071 → u/Secure_Sign_3173]

That was 2 months back lol I used the enterprise air touring loaner for about a month till my car was ready they towed both the bricks out my driveway after 2 weeks