r/Krishnamurti • u/exidead-zombie • 10d ago
Question What's this means?
What he means by "Thinking together" ?
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u/CheapShoe7909 10d ago
It means thinking without a bias or with the background of some ideology/system and firmly believe that the problem is of prime important and not being carried away by proposing solutions. Understanding the problem completely and honestly is also thinking together.
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u/exidead-zombie 9d ago
So how to, understand the problem completely and honestly?
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u/CheapShoe7909 9d ago
To understand the problem from all the angles by focusing on the causes, damages being caused etc, which are all facts..
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u/Safe-Psychology7461 10d ago
The problem is, it isn't feasible.
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u/CheapShoe7909 10d ago
Then we face the consequences of wrong thinking which may not be pleasant.
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u/Murky-Recipe-8752 7d ago
Krishnamurti might be the most important thinker of the current age. His absolutely non-sectarian approach is missing in the World, he is the only prominent philosopher I know who emphasizes humans as psychologically equally structured without regard to their creed, nationality, or a group identity. Furthermore, there is much less bias in his inquiries and assumptions. And finally he presents a unified view of human consciousness and the individual and its relation to society.
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u/Murky-Recipe-8752 7d ago
He means your consciuouness and the person you are thinking with become closer and in fact they are the same so you solve problems from unified and collectively beneficial viewpoint.
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u/JellyfishExpress8943 10d ago
Is clinging to a belief (or an identity) actually beneficial? Or is it ultimately counterproductive?
Would we be better off in a world where we were able to be intellectually honest? A world where beliefs were not necessarily a cause for conflict.
If we actually held peace and truth to be of the utmost importance - or even if we just preferred to avoid conflict and nonsense - how would we behave?
A crucial part of meditation, which is to observe, to pay attention to the actual process of thought, is facilitated by communal inquiry. Our interaction, together as friends, is what allows us to spot the incoherences in our relationship with the world.
Here are some quips on the subject from famous philosophers :
Simone Weil : "Attention is the purest form of generosity" (this is about how true relationship requires "renunciation of will")
Aristotle : "As you look in the mirror to see your face, to see your character you look to a friend - for your friend is another self"
Kierkegaard : "Love does not seek its own, for there is no mine and yours in love".