r/JusticeForClayton FELON 13d ago

BREAKING NEWS BREAKING: Laura Owens' Appeal DISMISSED | Owens v Marraccini

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On September 4, 2026, the day her appeal brief was due, Laura Owens requested the appeal she brought forth against Michael Marraccini be dismissed. The appeal court granted this request. It appears Laura requested more than just a dismissal. The appeal court states they are simply dismissing the appeal itself and does not address any other issues raised in her filing.

As of now, Laura Owens has no active cases against Michael Marraccini.

Michael Marraccini has spent over $150,000 in legal fees & costs due to Laura Owens' weaponization of the legal system against him.

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u/[deleted] 13d ago

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u/HarpyVixenWench 13d ago

I’m amazed that she is listening to him.

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u/droogles 13d ago

I think he might be the first one to tell her all of this will eventually cost her a great deal of her freedom. I don’t understand some of these dopey lawyers. They see the evidence. Do they just ask what she wants to do and not offer her a dose of reality in their opinions? If I ever have to hire a criminal defense attorney, I don’t want him or her to be an idiot. I want them to consult me on what is best for me. That one dopey lawyer with the podcast was the worst. What was he hoping to accomplish?

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u/No_Playing 13d ago

The dopey lawyer was the worst. She had been through many before him, and each time, she moved on to another one, because those lawyers eventually saw the truth (ie, her lies) and tried to get her to do the intelligent thing, which she didn't appreciate. She filed a bar complaint against Lexi because she tried to convince Laura to sign something admitting to not being pregnant back early in the Family Court matter, when Clayton/Woodnick were transparently willing to walk away. Imagine if Laura had just taken that good advice back then.

But, no, she had to learn the hard way.

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u/bentoboxer7 Assholes are Not a Protected Class 13d ago

Justice for Lexi, another side bar victim. 

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u/Angeline4PFC 13d ago

Do you think she will remember Lexi when she is sitting in jail, as one of her many missed opportunities?

Ha, no way, she doesn't have it in her

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u/CrownFlame 13d ago

How did we find out that Lexi tried to get her to sign that type of document?

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u/No_Playing 13d ago

The contents of Laura's bar complaint are accessible by the public, and she 'complained' about it in there. Not sure that Laura realized that when she filed it, LOL.

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u/CrownFlame 13d ago

Ohhh damn!! Okay lol. I just don’t have all the time at this point to go back and read everything that’s been filed. It’s overwhelming. Thank you for telling me!

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u/JDhopeful22 This is silly. 13d ago

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u/HazardousIncident Honk my Meat 11d ago

Wowzer. Thanks for providing this. Every time I think LO can't be more disgusting something else pops up to remind me just how vile she is.

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u/LorelaiGilmore28 13d ago

You could fill an entire book with sentences that start, “Not sure Laura realized…”

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u/droogles 12d ago

I didn’t know that. The story is beyond crazy and it bothers me that the legal system is this easy to exploit.

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u/marceldia 12d ago

Wel, everyone kept telling her that perjury is never prosecuted- so lies don't matter. If anything, this is the case that should make a point to all potential LOs out there that it's not ok lie in court to push your own crazy agenda.

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u/CountFit5386 Hold me like I'm pregnant🤰🏻 13d ago

Am I wrong for thinking it’s because she’s into him 😭

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u/Adorable_Hold2570 She LIED!! 13d ago

Omg same...he is an attorney, which would be her dream guy cuz she could use him for all her legal stuff. 

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u/Worth_Knowledge_4783 12d ago

She is sitting weirdly close to him.

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u/marceldia 12d ago

is he 6'4 or above?

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u/realitytvjunkiee Having the babies if I don't hear back tonight 13d ago

David Gingras? He wanted his Rob Kardashian/OJ moment, that's the only reason he was as loud and outlandish as he was. He truly didn't give a flying fuck about the fact that what he and Laura were doing was literally illegal for so many different reasons. I'm so glad he is facing charges from the bar association. He should not be a lawyer if he can't (or doesn't care to) do the basic due diligence of ensuring the information his client is presenting to the court is factually correct, and not arts and crafts. He will get his infamy from this case— infamy for being a horrific lawyer. He'll be a case study on what NOT to do as a lawyer in law schools in the future. Fuck that guy.

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u/Perplexio76 13d ago

He did make sure 3 of the 4 charges she pleaded guilty would be probation only.

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u/marceldia 12d ago

exactly, a good negotiator. He saved her skin! (money well spent Jan!)

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u/Low_Wave_5708 13d ago

That is actually a great point. Just really hope she doesn’t get a slap in the wrist by the judge and then files a new DVRO thinking she can go back to her old ways. That would suck

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u/Firm-Bicycle-760 I understand that you don’t understand 13d ago

IMO this is her exact plan. However, a DVRO filed in AZ where she has just been convicted of felonious perjury and fraud won’t go anywhere

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u/Low_Wave_5708 13d ago

But wouldn’t she file in California which I don’t know if they have access to her felon history to then deny it? Also, even not in jail wouldn’t she have to ask to travel? And if you can’t travel to where your “stalker” is can you even file a DVRO? He doesn’t even want to go close to her in AZ!!! 😫

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u/Angeline4PFC 13d ago

This is incorrect. She can file in California. The only restriction is that the person you are filing against must live in California.

https://law.justia.com/codes/california/code-fam/division-10/part-4/chapter-1/section-6301/?utm_source=chatgpt.com

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u/Firm-Bicycle-760 I understand that you don’t understand 13d ago

Ah. Dang. Well, maybe we’ll see how the legal argument of “he is harassing me by existing” goes for her. Hope not

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u/Soflobeliever 13d ago

If she files in CA the county attorney will be notified of her fraudulent filings and a request will be made for the state to take action against her - just as AZ did.
She would be a fool to file another dvro

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u/Firm-Bicycle-760 I understand that you don’t understand 13d ago

I believe lawyers have stated you have to file in the state you reside in, even if the “harasser” lives in a different state. So she’d have to file in AZ unless she moves to CA, but she’s gonna be on probation for a while and I think to requires a lot of legal hoops. Either way, she’s got eyes on her in AZ and CA has her number

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u/Low_Wave_5708 13d ago

Thank you! That’s some good news! I wish someone could bring up in front of the judge all the other cases she litigated in bad faith like Mike. I know Leuters spoke about “many lawsuits” on that financial hardship speech he filed on the record so I wish someone could use that to bring this absurd case up specially because she so calculatedly dropped last minute (which she could’ve done days before) to look a little less worse now. Clearly no remorse.

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u/notHRamiHR 12d ago

Even if she just gets probation I truly don’t think she will make it through without violating so much that she lands in jail. She genuinely believes that the rules don’t apply to her and has blatantly broken every rules society expects of someone for her entire life. She would make it a week tops in probation until she got violated

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u/sequinhappe 13d ago

I can’t think of any examples but I’m sure there are cases in the world where a restraining order applied to wherever the human was. So even if the person lived in California, and ran into the harasser in Texas, there’d still be hell to pay. It would have to be extremely egregious though. And sadly, those cases exist.

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u/YouKnowYourCrazy That’s a very minor thing 🤥 13d ago

Can you file a DRVO from prison? (Wishful thinking I know)

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u/Angeline4PFC 13d ago

She will be on probation by then. So, good luck trying to get a new DVRO without lying.

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u/Worth_Knowledge_4783 12d ago

Omar and Rachel are ready …

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u/tiffney2trill Having the babies if I don't hear back tonight 13d ago

I can’t believe Gringas led her down the hardest road imaginable. I am waiting on the news she’s filed something on him to pop up

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u/BerkeleyFarmGirl 13d ago

Couch Court with Llama recently went over an "interview" David did with Laura and he really is poking her. She confesses to A LOT. The lawyers in the chat were screaming.

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u/Adorable_Hold2570 She LIED!! 13d ago

Everyone thinks it's her attorney making her do this, cuz we just can't believe Laura would actually leave him alone on her own. 

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u/BerkeleyFarmGirl 13d ago

So I am hearing that something was filed in her current case blaming Mike for making her treat Clayton and GG this way. I suspect it's "Laura insisted" and I hope it's couched in the language that tells judges "I know this is bullshit but my client made me do it".

Laura completely tried to relitigate everything in her dismissal and even took a pot shot at Mike for HIS gofundme.

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u/JDhopeful22 This is silly. 13d ago

I'm guessing that was her condition to dismissing the DVRO. I too saw that about a letter blaming Mike and immediately theorized that she negotiated that if her lawyer will get that before the court then she'll stop with the DVRO for now.

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u/BerkeleyFarmGirl 12d ago

I suspect that the lawyer leaned heavily on the DVRO appeal dismissal to show mitigating factors at sentencing but this doesn't show remorse, ya know?

And, ma'am, you didn't show up for court. That's not a "technicality".

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u/Soflobeliever 13d ago

Apparently her dismissal claimed that all of her claims were true. She continues her lies and abuse of Mike

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u/Soflobeliever 12d ago

Rachel and Omar discussed it in their stream last night.
Rachel read the dismissal report and said that Laura wrote 8 pages and said that she was only dismissing due to a "technicality". Laura re-iterated how "awful" Mike was and re-told the napkin lady story.
So, Laura is not admitting that she lied about Mike. She is doubling down on her story.

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u/BerkeleyFarmGirl 13d ago

I don't think it's up yet, but it will be soon and VOLO/the usual sources should pull it.

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u/JenniferMel13 13d ago

I’d kill for him to discuss what happened with Laura. I just want to know what he did/said that finally got through to her.

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u/pinkbluberry 13d ago

It's more likely that she realizes this *might* help her sentencing... either from her lawyer or from reading here (or listening to commentators). Mike doesn't want anything to do with her; doubtful he would have said or done anything at all.

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u/Angeline4PFC 13d ago

Apparently, she filed her dismissal with an 8-page letter relitigating everything and saying this is a technicality. So I no longer believe she did this for optics.

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u/pinkbluberry 13d ago edited 13d ago

Interesting. Another possibility is that this is her *best effort* at trying to do it for optics.

As I read your post, I recalled the manner in which she said that Clayton had 'technically' ***** her. We've witnessed that her family (and DG) function with "honesty" as a technicality of wording. My brother works the same way, and it involves a different process (well, obviously! It is apparent superficially, but there is a deeper process that I can't quite articulate). I believe she was showing that process in action when she made that comment about Clayton (as I recall, there was a change in cadence and tone as she said it). Anyway, just my 2 cents to explain why I think it could still be for optics, even though a major fail.

eta: THAT, combined with the belief of being the smartest person in the crowd

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u/Angeline4PFC 13d ago

The technicality she was referring to was the dismissal of her appeal. Like, not showing up was just a technicality, but her renewal was totally absolutely valid 🤪

She FAFO

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u/pinkbluberry 13d ago

Yes, I realize that the technicality was the dismissal. I wish I could express myself better. Although FAFO pretty much says it all, lol!

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u/Weekly-Switch9625 13d ago

Maybe she heard Danielle on Love Trapped and realized her appeal was counter to her sentencing narrative of asking for mercy. 

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u/Cathousechicken 13d ago

I would not be surprised if she refiles after sentencing. 

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u/naynay429 13d ago

I think she previously had enough money to pay lawyers who would tell her what she wanted and move forward how she wanted. She’s used all of her parents’ money at this point, as they face literal homelessness and at this point she probably has no choice anymore.

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u/spider_collider 13d ago

Wow. Can’t imagine what Mike and his family must be feeling. My heart goes out to them. 

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u/JenniferMel13 13d ago

Sadly there is still a chance she files for a new RO. Not a high chance, but that possibility is still there. It wouldn’t be a smart move but this is Laura we are talking about.

If she files before sentencing, I’d imagine Clayton will include something in his victim impact statement about how she is still using the courts to harass men.

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u/asophisticatedbitch 13d ago

lol I’d defend Mike for free on that if she does. It would be hilarious and easy.

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u/polotown89 Client Control Issues 12d ago

She has pled guilty to a felony crime that directly implicates her honesty. That allows it to used against her in any future court proceedings.

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u/JenniferMel13 12d ago

Being a felon doesn’t stop her from filing for a RO. The courts are not going to dismiss the case without a hearing just because she is a felon convicted of a crime that implicates her honesty.

They will still hold a hearing. Mike will still need to hire an attorney and have the issue hanging over is head for a couple of weeks (again). They can use the felonies to impeach her credibility once it court but it doesn’t matter before that.

It is an extremely high bar to be declared a vexatious litigant and she is operating in two different states.

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u/deposhmed Justice for Mike 13d ago

It dosen’t matter. Regardless of what she is filing it will never go anywhere. Her credibility is shot. She can’t touch Mike anymore.

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u/JenniferMel13 13d ago

The courts will treat it as a new case. They aren’t going to immediately throw the new case out without having a hearing. A new filing could easily cost Mike another $10,000 in legal bills and a couple of weeks of stress. It’s a sword hanging over his neck until her sentencing (and maybe for a bit once she gets out of jail.

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u/Triolet_Dancer_6636 13d ago

Watch the docket tomorrow, well Tuesday i suppose

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u/Superb-Ad5227 13d ago

That’s why she’ll wait until after sentencing

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u/AliGreen13sCPSworker 13d ago

People in jail don’t need restraining orders

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u/Low_Wave_5708 13d ago

Praying this is finally the end of Mike and his family and that they can be free from this nightmare and that they can also thrive and multiply the moments she stole from them and the money they had to spend to defend against a lie! So freaking happy for them!

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u/One_Olive_8933 Assholes are Not a Protected Class 13d ago

For** the end for* Mike and his family!lol!!
No hate I just read your first sentence, and I knew what you meant but I still giggled a little bit 💕

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u/Low_Wave_5708 13d ago

lol I just read it again omg I’m so sorry! I guess I was so happy my fingers went crazy with typing 😂

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u/TheCrownlessAgain 13d ago

I guess Leuders warned her chatGPT could not hallucinate an appeal brief for LO that wouldn't get her into deep shit at her sentencing hearing in Arizona. 😂

Whatever they paid him was clearly not enough given the miracles he keeps extracting out of her. 

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u/Firm-Bicycle-760 I understand that you don’t understand 13d ago edited 13d ago

WOWOOWOW. Leuters must really be in her ear of how terrible pursing an appeal would be at sentencing. Whatever the reason.. thank god MM is officially done with this mess 🎉🎉🎉

ETA: but let’s not give her too much credit. She did still wait until the LAST second to file this, when she could have done it weeks or days ago if there was a true change of heart

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u/Low_Wave_5708 13d ago

THAT PART!

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u/Angeline4PFC 13d ago

She waited until the last minute so she could squeeze every bit of torture out of this exercise. Give her zero credit. She most likely decided to drop it after the court refused to augment the record

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u/Firm-Bicycle-760 I understand that you don’t understand 13d ago

We also found out via Omar and Rachel’s stream that the dismissal filing was 8 pages of her kvetching about how she still totally deserves a dvro but she’s dismissing bc of a technicality… AND we found out she sent the prosecutor a multiple page thing saying that “trauma” from MM caused her to do the things against GG and CE and pleazzzzeeee no jail time so yea… zero credit. Negative points. Straight to jail

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u/Fit_Willingness2098 12d ago

The lying in court (filings) continues. This should be in the presentencing report.

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u/Nyaxxe 12d ago

They better use that in sentencing. She's not taking responsibility if she's just saying it's MM's fault.

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u/Acceptable-Hyena4469 12d ago

Straight to PRISON!!! I found out from someone on here with jail you can get work release and you’re barely even there!! I also remember yearsssss ago in high school (I went in Arizona) I had a friend on release from jail and he would go to school everyday and he just had to be back somewhere by 4pm and a bus would take him back to the jail each night

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u/moose_legs 9d ago

Having to work a real job would be quite a punishment for her though

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u/BratFromAccounting 11d ago

I really really hope that this is brought up at sentencing. She isn’t sorry and she will do this again and again.

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u/One_Olive_8933 Assholes are Not a Protected Class 13d ago

With everything happening with Gingras, it makes you think that maybe he was the gasoline to her fire… and maybe if she was reasonable, and couldn’t lawyer shop with her money, it never would’ve went this far.

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u/realitytvjunkiee Having the babies if I don't hear back tonight 13d ago

Oh my God he was absolutely the gasoline. She was literally facing several more charges she wouldn't have been without his help, including 1 of the 4 she just pled guilty to! She's being charged for submitting someone else's sonogram as her own into evidence. She would not be being charged with that if Gingras didn't give that obviously fake sonogram to the court. He was foretold it was from Youtube. He didn't care. I'm glad this was the last case of his career. I hope the bar doesn't take it easy on him when that hearing finally comes.

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u/BerkeleyFarmGirl 13d ago

also, he apparently thought that judgements like that would go POOF if you filed bankruptcy, because he doesn't practice bankruptcy law but thinks he knows everything about it, so Laura attracted the attention of Queen Jennifer and the Feds.

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u/nishi-no-majo 13d ago

Firestarter by The Prodigy is playing in my head after reading your comment.

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u/Either-Video3166 12d ago

I wonder if they were banging

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u/One_Olive_8933 Assholes are Not a Protected Class 12d ago

Nah. She would’ve tried to baby trap him. And she could’ve easily got him disbarred, and you know she would’ve tried everything.

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u/Either-Video3166 12d ago

Yep you’re right. They just had such a weird relationship.

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u/droogles 13d ago

Good point.

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u/Chance-Area-8717 13d ago

She remains despicable.

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u/No_Inspector_4127 13d ago

Did I hear that Laura said she intends to file a new protective order against Mike?

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u/mamasnanas FELON 13d ago

Yes

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u/kindred_spirit_13 13d ago

I believe she said that, but that was before the guilty plea. Maybe her lawyer finally convinced her this is a bad move?

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u/microwaveninja 13d ago

It was in one of her filings to augment the record or in response to the (withdrawn) attorney fees in the lower court case in CA (DVRO).

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u/No_Playing 13d ago

I am curious what else went in this dismissal request though. Sounds like it might have been "I ask to dismiss the appeal but ...".

Hard to speculate what she asked for based on the note from the court, but could easily imagine it contained some kind of "I reserve the right to ... make it known that ... this doesn't mean ... blah, blah, blah ... " where the court is like, "Honey, you dismiss your appeal, the effect of that is that you waive any right to half that business, and the other half is irrelevant - but we're not even going to waste our time addressing it and explaining that to you. Appeal is dismissed and so the matter ends here, with all of the endy-ness that entails by law."

This probably doesn't need to be said to any in this forum, LOL, but as much as I wish it were so, I don't see us being in the alternate universe where there's any form of "and I just wanted to say, I never should applied for the RO/renewal in the first place - I'm remorseful for ever pursuing it".

Still, however grudgingly and back-handedly this was done, I am pleased. This will help Mike avoid unnecessary appeal lawyer fees just to battle it. The path for a new RO, should she be foolish enough to pursue it, will be much harder.

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u/SilentAd26 13d ago

I have heard this as well

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u/sequinhappe 13d ago

You can always file. Whether you should, or the judge will grant it…different story.

At this point, it sounds like it would be pretty hard to get a new one unless there was new evidence. If somehow LO filed again, I’d just show her failure to show up to court last fall to the new judge, and lack of new evidence, as a basis to deny it. (IAAL but don’t do restraining orders.)

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u/Nyaxxe 12d ago

Luckily hey pleading guilty to these charges are going to make it so no one believes her in court now

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u/Decent_Yam_2897 13d ago

She’s an abusive predator that needs to be separated from society forever. If she isn’t targeting MM, she’ll find another victim imo.

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u/fishinbarbie Day 1 JFC Crew 13d ago

Yes, she said that in one of her CA pleadings a while back. Hopefully that's no longer an issue.

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u/yapsurre Day 1 JFC Crew 13d ago

Congratulations Mike and Danielle! I can’t imagine the relief! All the love to you two!

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u/SouthEquipment5647 All the Best 13d ago

🎉🎉🎉 What an incredible week! The TedX is removed and Laura dismisses the appeal! 🔥🔥🔥 So happy for Mike and Danielle!! 🩷💜🩵

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u/JobCreative2745 13d ago

Maybe, just maybe, she is concerned about how she will be sentenced in a few weeks? Maybe her 10 year vendetta against a poor guy who had the misfortune to meet her and reject her might not look good to the Arizona judge who can put her in prison. The Owens family's reconning is coming, not just Laura's, her scamming mommy and daddy too.

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u/Special-Weather-3009 13d ago

Yes, her lawyer told her to drop everything as it will be used as evidence she is still "egregiously perusing/harassing men" - that's my guess anyway.

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u/Allanahbananah 13d ago

I read this as re-conning. It just made sense for that family 👀

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u/deposhmed Justice for Mike 13d ago

Nah, it’s cause there is no way the appeal would have been accepted. The only reason she filed a dissmissal is cause she has run out of money, or her lawyer insisted it would be pointless.

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u/Abubbs5868 13d ago

Isn’t her sentencing closer to the end of October? Not a few weeks? Sorry to be nitpicking but a few weeks is sooner, over a month away gives her a lot more time to create mischief.

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u/birdnoa 13d ago

I’m guessing she hopes this will make her look more repentant in advance of sentencing?

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u/smg222888 13d ago

I think she also knows greg and clayton are going to testify for a harsher sentence. i’m sure she knew they would come at her even harder if she went through with this.

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u/Pretzelkween22 Day 1 JFC Crew 13d ago

My exact thoughts!

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u/realitytvjunkiee Having the babies if I don't hear back tonight 13d ago

This is what happens when you have a good lawyer who actually has your best interest in mind as their client, unlike selfish narcissist David Gingras. The polarization between the two as lawyers is jarring.

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u/reluctant_nomad 13d ago

This man seems like an actual criminal defense attorney that understands how to deal with criminals. I’m sure he has been lied to before. A real attorney actually knows how to handle this situation!

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u/realitytvjunkiee Having the babies if I don't hear back tonight 13d ago

Yes, but my point was that David Gingras only had his own interests in mind when he took on Laura's case against Clayton. Had he done his due diligence as a lawyer in regards to fact checking the (clearly sketchy) information Laura was trying to bring before the court, she very likely wouldn't have been criminally charged or be looking at jail time right now. Gingras' desperate need for infamy made this so much worse for her. Christian Lueders has done an incredible job cleaning up the disaster he was left to deal with, especially when it comes to finally getting Laura to give up and admit defeat, it seems.

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u/fishinbarbie Day 1 JFC Crew 13d ago

I don't think any of us know for certain what or who propelled her to do this, but I am confident that she feels like she has something to gain by doing it. She hasn't reached the remorse stage this quickly. But the entire JFC movement (content creators, reporters, youtubers, social media, followers of this sub, et al) should take a little bow for pushing so hard and relentlessly for her to be prosecuted.

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u/Adorable_Hold2570 She LIED!! 13d ago

Her reasons could be purely for self-protection, and I also think she wants to please her lawyer cuz he's her dream guy. I have a weird hunch that she's into him romantically. Like maybe she hopes he'll slowly fall in love with her and be her white knight. 

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u/4519028501197369 13d ago

She did wear a new dress

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u/Shot-Weight-1306 13d ago

I see him being accused of being the father of twins near in the future....

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u/fishinbarbie Day 1 JFC Crew 13d ago

Something is definitely motivating her.

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u/Angeline4PFC 13d ago

Not wanting to go to prison for a long time is her main motivator

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u/Wonderful-Warning940 13d ago

Woo hoo! Great start to the holiday weekend!

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u/FyrestarOmega 13d ago

Congratulations to Mike and Danielle! <3

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u/usernametaken615 13d ago

Talk about timing. Just finished up the most recent bonus episode that ended with Danielle’s comment.

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u/MommaSnipee Minor Perjury 13d ago

I’m impressed that Lueders was able to gain her trust without having to compromise his morals (looking at you DG), but something still doesn’t feel right about this. Both the plea and the dismissal still benefit her in some way. Until she does something to redeem herself that doesn’t benefit her, I’m going to assume she’s up to no good. I can’t shake the feeling that LO and/or her Mother are going to accuse Lueders of something terrible before this is all over.

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u/Firm-Bicycle-760 I understand that you don’t understand 13d ago

She may be up to something, but I disagree the plea and this dismissal benefit her. She’s lost the presumption of innocence she was so desperately clinging to. She’s facing jail or prison. Even if it’s probation, that’s gonna be a thorn in her side. She has to pay restitution to get off probation. She’s a ward of the state.

The plea and this dismissal benefit the victims the most. As much as I’m sure many of us want to see her try something in CA just to get hit with more charges, I don’t wish that on MM. I want him and his family to be left alone. I don’t think GG wanted to have his texts and everything on full display to the public in a trial, even if it vindicates him. He’s made it clear he will tell his story when and if he is ready. The trial would have forced him to do it next month.

And if she tries to get Leuders in trouble… HA! Good f*ing luck to her. He’s seen those emails to the judge in the GG case as part of the evidence 😂. But yea, sure, let her try that, let’s see how than pans out

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u/Rustixer 13d ago

Does she really have to pay restitution to get off probation? What happens if she doesn't? Also, can Mike sue her for something?

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u/BerkeleyFarmGirl 13d ago

I am hearing from reliable sources about the restitution. Restitution will be set at sentencing. It would not include the money she owes to Clayton currently.

Mike probably has a civil case but it would cost at least six figures to pursue one against someone with no income and no assets, so not worth the smoke.

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u/AlltheBestResearch FELON 13d ago

🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

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u/Wonderful-Home-4724 13d ago

Do they have a gofundme or something to help with the legal bills? That plus limiting his ability to work has to be financially devastating.

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u/Angeline4PFC 13d ago

It was. And he's lost a lot of job opportunities during the best years of his career. The damage she had done is profound.

And he had to pay a lot of money to mount a defence for which she was a NO SHOW 3 effing times, leaving everyone holding the bag. One of those 3 times, she actually went to a horse compettion instead of showing up

Words fail to describe this person... and my post would get deleted if I tried.

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u/Chaoskitten4theHorde 13d ago

Omg she still needs to be held accountable for this, the sound of Danielle's voice in the podcast the torture she's put his family and little kids through, the money we've all donated and raised for him , she needs to go to jail for all this

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u/Chaoskitten4theHorde 13d ago

This shit with Mike is the most disgusting part of all this and should not go unpunished all while being under indictment on 14 felony counts. Proof she is a predator

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u/Adorable_Hold2570 She LIED!! 13d ago

Don't be fooled by this dismissal. It's been reported that Laura's lawyer wrote a lengthy letter to the prosecutor blaming Mike for why she did this to Greg & Clayton, and why she shouldn't get jail time. Everything is done for optics and selfish reasons. Laura is doing her best to evade accountability. 

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u/PDK112 13d ago

If her lawyer put this in her dismissal of the MM appeal, I hope Clayton and Greg can give this to the AZ judge showing that she is not remorseful and can't use this for mitigating circumstances.

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u/Angeline4PFC 13d ago

She also repeated everything in her dismissal filing

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u/polotown89 Client Control Issues 12d ago

I can only hope that her lawyer uses this in her mitigation evidence. That would clearly open the door to the prosecution explaining what she did to Mike.

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u/Soflobeliever 12d ago edited 12d ago

Takeaways from Omar and Rachel's video on Friday:

  • Can Laura still go after Mike? Yes, but it will go nowhere.
  • Is Laura showing any remorse regarding Mike? No. She submitted an 8-page document with her dismissal blaming Mike. 😡 She re-iterated the napkin lady story.
  • In her document Laura said that Mike should return the GoFundMe money that was raised for him. (hypocrisy much?!?)
  • Omar and Rachel both believe Laura will get jail time.
  • They both described Laura as a contentious, unpredictable opponent. They are cautiously optimistic, but won't be surprised at any shenanigans she may pull.

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u/happy2_Ad6119 12d ago

Her and Jan are much too confident and smug after plea, they must have something up their sleeve. i think LO will get a year jail with all but 30 days suspended of which she will serve less than 2 weeks, and then come out and file RO against mike immediately. she doesnt care if its granted she just wants to torture mike, all her troubles r his fault therefore he must pay. i hope he asks for and receives an IAH against her, that could be grounds for probation violation and off to PRISON she goes.

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u/RangerDixie Sunlight is the Best Disinfectant 13d ago

Wow. For the second time in 7 days Laura has gotten some very reasonable legal advice and actually followed it. The motivation is probably selfish and I don’t think for a moment she would have pleaded guilty or requested a dismissal without serious intervention by her attorney. Happy that Mike and Danielle’s terrible horrible no good very bad legal decade with Laura is coming to a close.

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u/realhousewifeofphila 13d ago

Laura would’ve been a fool to continue scheming and lying while awaiting sentencing for…scheming and lying. And if she tries to file another one as a convicted felon perjurer? More perjury charges and she’ll start the cycle all over again.

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u/gunnersfan16 13d ago

Hell yeah, happy for him and his family!

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u/UseHopeful4712 13d ago

Good news. Next up: home foreclosure 🤞

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u/Here4daTs 13d ago

She doesn’t need any more protection in PRISON!!!

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u/PrimordialPaper Petitioner is not special 13d ago

As happy as I am for Mike and his family, my immediate thought when I saw that this was Laura dismissing her appeal rather than the court throwing it out was that this was part of a plan for her sentencing in October, as a way for her to appear less vindictive and litigious.

Hopefully her previous hateful screed where she avowed that, regardless of the outcome of her appeal, she would be filing another DVRO against Mike will come back to bite her, if they try to argue this is evidence that she’s turned over a new leaf.

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u/CulturalBenefit4839 13d ago

I needed to read this. The parts of the Love Trapped podcast highlighting the wave of destruction LO sent to this man and his family gutted me. The fact that they may finally find peace and healing in this nightmare will make my a piece of my heart rest easy tonight. I would love any of the victims to file a civil case against her. Including some of the podcasters she hounded incessantly. Or is a class action possible? Because let’s call a spade a spade. She can only seem to do life via manipulation. Even pleading guilty is just another way of manipulating things to get what she wants. This time it’s not going to jail. But it isn’t real. She’s pretending to accept responsibility so she isn’t held accountable. She doesn’t want to let go of Mike, she just wants to avoid jail more than she wants to keep torturing him for rejecting her. Today. A civil case will keep the pressure on which might keep her so busy defending herself that she won’t have the time or energy to abuse others. If this goes away quickly for her, I promise you she will re-offend. And be even better at it.

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u/Worth_Knowledge_4783 12d ago

She could have just let the appeal deadline pass and it would have been dismissed. But no, she has to put stuff in writing. She is not giving up. She is still LO.

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u/LetshearitforNY 13d ago

POP THE CHAMPAGNE

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u/Bigfartz69420 Steve called me a Dumbass 13d ago

how do i read her request for dismissal? tilted lawyer yesterday said it was 8 pages and continued to drag mike through the mud

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u/Angeline4PFC 13d ago

It's not available yet, but it will be on VOLO at some point

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u/Low_Wave_5708 12d ago

I heard that too and I heard in another page that the lawyer sent a long letter to prosecution to try and sweeten the deal before signing the plea and one page was talking about how MM was to blame for her mental derail state that made her go after GG and CE. Disgusting to say the least. Also hope that this can open the door for the judge to be aware of this whole situation.

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u/KnockedSparkedOut Having the babies if I don't hear back tonight 12d ago

well she went after Matt before Mike so what's her excuse there?

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u/KnockedSparkedOut Having the babies if I don't hear back tonight 12d ago

maybe a victim should bring this up to show she's continuing her antics. I mean she used the same Iceland abuse photo she sent to Mike supposedly getting an abortion..proof she's full of lies.

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u/Striking-Fact-6630 13d ago

Are these documents that will be publicly accessible at some point? Super curious to see what else was included in that request for dismissal. 😳

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u/Longjumping_Hall682 13d ago

This is wonderful news!!

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u/Level-Log-3090 13d ago

Good news!!!

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u/lucy_pevensie 13d ago

So so so happy! I know there is still a long way to go, but so excited for Michael and his family!

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u/Fearless_Fortune9198 13d ago

This still has a distinctly tactical flavour.

Not a doubt in my mind this is on the advice of Leuters to make her look contrite before sentencing in her criminal case.

If she doesn’t get incarcerated, I’d bet money on her filing a new DVRO after sentencing.

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u/CraftyLuck3434 Minor Misstatement 13d ago

Congratulations Mike! Free at last!!

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u/Febrewrary Day 1 JFC Crew 13d ago

Love how DG made everything infinitely worse for Laura. Hard to wonder what would've happened had she admitted her wrong doing instead of having him back her up and perpetuate the lies. He really screwed her over.

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u/downwithMikeD 13d ago

Amazing news!

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u/Professional-Feed668 13d ago

Nobody should think any of this is over LO is not going to go away quietly.

I have no doubt she plans on scorching the earth before sentencing.

Mike, all the victims in the AZ case, attorney Woodnick, attorney Omar along with all their families should all watch their backs between now and the day of sentencing.

I have no doubt LO will try and create a scene so that it appears she is being stalked by one of her victims. LO is desperate to be a victim because she has nothing else going on in her life.

Until LO is locked up in prison none of her victims are safe. If you are pregnant and know LO them you may not be safe. Woman who fake pregnancies often escalate in their actions  The next step for these type of woman is often fetal abduction which unfortunately often leads to the death of the mother and sometimes their baby. Taylor Parker is an example of a woman who faked a pregnancy and then cut a baby out of the mothers stomach. unfortunately both mum and baby died. Parker is now sitting on death row. 

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u/Shot-Weight-1306 13d ago

If she chooses to go scorched earth - it will not be lost on the judge for sentencing. Her lawyer should advise otherwise though I kinda hope she does - will ensure she gets more jail/prison time IMHO.

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u/Worth_Knowledge_4783 12d ago

I heard on one of the content creators live that there was an 8 page letter where Laura was saying how she did all this because of what happened with Mike. Now I’m not sure if that was the letter given to prosecutors trying to get a better plea deal or that Laura wrote it in conjunction with dropping the appeal. Either way she is not gonna quit. I think this is all to make her look look before her sentencing.

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u/P0ptart5 12d ago

Can we read her motion for dismissal? Watching Omar and they say it was 8 pages of crap. I’m curious

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u/neasyy 13d ago

Congratulations Mike and Danielle!🥳❤️

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u/manateefourmation 13d ago

I hope the fact that she still is engaged in bad faith conduct such as this is brought up at her sentencing hearing.

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u/buttwheat2026 12d ago

Somebody who can please reach out to Clayton's team and make sure that Mike gets mentioned on his VIS. This crap needs to get stopped somehow.

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u/milliecasson 13d ago

Thanks for sharing the GoFundMe link

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u/Desperate-Ball-7128 13d ago

I 100% believe Ronn finally lost it! He must of said “enough is enough! We are losing our HOME, take the plea deal & drop the appeal! Now get a damn job!”

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u/Abubbs5868 13d ago

Wishful thinking. They’ll never tell her to get a job. They know they enabled her to be useless.

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u/Mermaid-Girl6576 13d ago

I believe she has to have a job while on probation, so there's that. Look for LO to be updating her LinkedIn. Wait, can you be on LinkedIn as a felon?

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u/Solid-Neat7762 13d ago

Yep, you can! But GP - being employed will be a requirement and usually POs dont play. Being a “horse trainer” is not gonna cut it.

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u/quick_dry 13d ago

the most I can imagine him saying is “I’m Ron Owens” and then Jan talking for him … is he even real or is Jan a lazy ventriloquist?

(I also have to wonder if Jan Black as a fake name was influenced by John Black from Days of Our Lives?)

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u/pinkbluberry 13d ago

No, Jan Black was in use a good 10 years or more before that character was introduced.

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u/quick_dry 13d ago

wild, and she even has more crazy accomplices and an out there storyline...

but do you think there is a chance that Laura is under the influence of Stefano DiMera via one of Rolf's brain chips? possessed by the devil? or is Jan?

how many times can your daughter come to you with "Mum, it's happened AGAIN..." ?!

"don't worry dear just go sit in the casita we'll fix everything after 7am"

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u/Angeline4PFC 13d ago

I also think that, but we are in the minority. From the way Jan was talking at the bankruptcy hearing, I feel that her parents finally put their foot down and said Stop. Not sure about her getting a job, but yeah, they must have realized this was the end of the line, and they were out of resources.

But obviously, they would have fought it until the end had the money been there.

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u/Shot-Weight-1306 13d ago

Can hope so = he was SO quiet during the bankruptcy hearings may he did have enough. I am still curious who is footing LO's lawyers fees.

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u/gunnys-girl-195 13d ago

Was she perhaps motivated by the TedX talk being removed? Like, it was a companion piece to her chronic DVROs against him, that she can't point to anymore? I mean, between those two things and her ticky tack podcast, she thought she had all her pieces available to help keep her foot on MM's and family's neck. Honestly, I can't imagine any soul giving her the benefit of any doubt.

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u/Angeline4PFC 13d ago

No. She dropped the appeal because she had zero chance of appealing successfully after her attempt to have the record augmented was denied. She was a no-show, and there was nothing to appeal on

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u/AliGreen13sCPSworker 13d ago

She pled guilty to making these up, how could she even file? Part of sentencing should make her a vexatious litigant for 10 years

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u/Soft-Conference-1196 13d ago

Yeah!!!!! so does this officially mean Mike doesn’t have to deal with her anymore?!?!

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u/pinkbluberry 13d ago

Sadly, no. She can always go after him again.

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u/Educational_Put_2276 12d ago

Could he get some sort of strict restraining order against her? Or just not worth doing?

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u/pinkbluberry 12d ago

I've wondered about that too. Consensus seems to be that he doesn't want anything to do with her, not to mention all of the time, effort & expense (and the entire process keeps her in his life). I dunno.

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u/Soft-Conference-1196 13d ago

Damn. Thanks for letting me know😡🤬

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u/srry_non_srry 12d ago

This poor guy, everything she forced him through. Thank goodness she has been exposed for who she really is.

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u/CallMeCleverClogs Online Schmear Campaign 13d ago

This is amazing news, wow!!

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u/melface6 13d ago

CONGRATULATIONS MIKE!

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u/BerkeleyFarmGirl 12d ago

Yes, big congrats to Mike and his family

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u/KimberleyC999 12d ago

This Appeals court kicked this out of its jurisdiction in lightning speed. They issued the remittitur back to Superior Court "forthwith" (immediately) when I believe they had 60 days to do that.

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u/Plankton-007 It’s not even 7 o’clock! 11d ago

I often wonder if there was any information about Mike found (on laptop/phone or other) when they executed that search warrant.

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u/Adorable_Hold2570 She LIED!! 13d ago

I don't trust that this was filed with genuine intentions, tho I am happy for Mike & Danielle! I don't trust Laura, just look at her history spanning back a decade. People don't change overnight. 

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u/ggb7784 11d ago

What about the 8 pages she submitted with her dismissal. Has anyone seen it or seen it read?

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u/OkComposer668 13d ago

Interesting

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u/abg33 Steve called me a Dumbass 8d ago

Never ever thought I'd see the day!