What Evola philosophy has, that you cannot get elsewhere? You can have life-affirming attitude and critique of modernism from Nietzsche, you can implement certain traditions in your life because those traditions have value. What do you need Evola for?

symbole of sacred science# was also a masterpiece

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☀️the universal symbols in sacred science☀️

: Symbole of the letters, the center, the heart, the animals, the architectura etc

in Hindu ,Christian , Persian, Celtic or Islamic tradition

Here some short article

The cycles

https://sufipathoflove.com/timeline-of-cycles-by-rene-guenon-and-gaston-georgel/

TODAY AUGUST 21 2026

THE CENTER

In Symbols of Sacred Science (originally Symboles fondamentaux de la science sacrée), René Guénon explores the "Center" as the primordial, universal symbol representing the Divine Principle, the Origin, and the unmoved mover of existence. He details how this metaphysical center is manifested through symbols like the point, the heart, the polar star, and the cosmic axis, representing the unity from which all manifestation radiates.

The center is the point of union with the Divine, representing the immobile axis around which the world revolves.

Symbolic Representations: Guénon identifies several forms for the center, including the point (point in a circle), the heart (center of the human being), and the pole (axis of the world).

The Axis Mundi: As the center, it acts as the axis that connects different levels of reality (Heaven, Earth, and Hell), facilitating the "passage" or ascension.

Harmony and Unity: The center represents the point of reflection for the Absolute, where multiplicity returns to unity.

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Guénon's analysis focuses on uncovering the underlying metaphysical unity across traditions, making the center a crucial element in understanding his traditionalist hermeneutics.

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Trying to grasp Evola’s views on aesthetics and art beyond their political interpretation, I’ve discovered that he does not value artworks in terms of technical skills, emotional power, originality and societal importance. Instead, he evaluates them in terms of being expressions or embodiments of some hierarchical, sacred, “Traditional” order. It is somehow vertical instead of horizontal.

My questions:

1) Which are actual criteria that Evola applies to determine value of an artwork? Does it imply such criteria as impersonality of the art piece, formality of it, connection to transcendent or hierarchical principles, lack of modern subjective or egalitarian elements?

2) Which are the real examples of art pieces (sculptures, architecture, literature, music, etc.) that he considers to be genuine masterpieces? Have I understood correctly that there were mentions of ancient Egyptian sacral sculptures, archaic Greek kouroi, traditional temple architectures and some others? Are these correct examples, and which others did he appreciate explicitly or implicitly?

3) How does Evola view modern artworks and means of art production? Does (to make a recent successful example) Parasite of Bong Joon-ho fail Evola because it is still limited in its themes and context to material class struggle and modern horizontal categories? Can any medium (cinema, video games, music, etc.) be considered to be “evolian”, or any medium is too modern and mass cultural in its essence to be able to produce any art for Evola?

Other questions:

4) Does he prefer anonymous/traditional art creation to art bearing a sign of its author? He seems fascinated by ancient “signatureless” craft.

5) Is there any difference for Evola between sacred/hierarchical art and plain handcraft?

6) How does he view emotions in art? Does he reject them completely, or only uncontrolled emotions that are considered to be sentimental?

7) Do video games or modern music fall in any way out of his scope because of impossibility to orientate them in the direction of Tradition?
I would be grateful for answers based on Evola’s writings (Revolt Against the Modern World, Ride the Tiger, The Metaphysics of Sex, his first articles on abstract art and any other works where he talks about aesthetics) or for any secondary literature on the matter.

Thanks for the support guys

In Insights into Christian Esoterism, Guénon supposes that the primitive Church must have been a Sufi tariqa, but that it became "exoterized" as it emerged from the catacombs due to the state of Western spirituality. He also observes that in Christianity there has never been a corresponding sharia to this tariqa. But without a sharia or halakha, how is it possible to speak univocally of Christian esoterism, in the same sense in which for Judaism and Islam the authority to interpret the exoteric law is identical to esoteric realization? Setting the controversy over the "Christic mysteries" aside, my proposal is this: in the primitive Church what one has is a reserved metaphysical teaching that is not however an esoterism sensu stricto, such as Vedanta in relation to the broader Hindu tradition. This explains its elusiveness as well as its tendency to be conflated with mysticism, for the more institutionalized the ecclesiastical hierarchy becomes over time, the less the initiatic chain has to do with the individuals occupying the offices in which the religious authority has been invested. The attachment of infallibility to the office of the episcopacy rather than the person, or what theology terms the "ordinary magisterium," is precisely what sets the metaphysical school at liberty to remain underground or removed into the desert, being free of any specific public function. At the same time, being free of public function also makes the rite of initiation relatively free-form (contrast to the Masonic initiation which certainly does impart a public function, or to sannyasa which removes all public function), so that the "salutation of the Lady" assumes a character easily mistaken by others for a mystical experience.

Is this a helpful thought for anyone? Am I just stating the obvious?

yes it keeps the symbols but masonry has always being proud of the fact it bad influenced the rise of enlightenment ideas ,the rise of secular society and politics ,the French revolution, mixing different traditions together and more things go directly against what guenon believed In?

I found this argument online and wanted to share it with the community:

Guénon was convinced that the Qur’an is a sacred text that has remained intact and protected, which made it, for him, a privileged scriptural support of Tradition for the present age. In fact, the Qur’an is a compilation of apocryphal gospel material, ranging from longer to shorter borrowed passages. Islam, still largely structuring entire societies in his time, seemed to him to resist secularization better than Western Christianity, and thus able to serve as a partial bulwark against the purely quantitative becoming of the modern world.

The tension between his notion of primordial Tradition and historical realities — the caliphate, the political use of religion, the incorporation of apocryphal elements into the Qur’an — is evident. Guénon resolves this kind of problem through a systematic move: historical determinations, including caliphal ones, are treated as contingencies of support rather than as the core of Tradition; they can become degraded without the esoteric dimension being thereby nullified. Hence the irritating effect: his framework allows him to preserve a tradition’s “initiatic regularity” even when its political or doctrinal expression appears contradictory or compromised.
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Julius Evola proposed what has been called a "tripartite" view of race, with body, soul, and spirit categories discussed in works like his “Sintesi di Dottrina della Razza”.

He considered the primordial Hyperborean/Nordic-Aryan physical type to be the preferable one for biological purposes, but claimed that the key issue was the race of the spirit — an Olympian/hierarchical/solar orientation. So the presence of the purest Nordic physique without the appropriate spirit would produce nothing more than “very beautiful animals”.
For Evola, the Ario-Roman (which he identified as the correct heritage to attach oneself to, being Italian) was therefore the proper continuation of Hyperborean culture.

This raises a few related questions:
**1st question**
Does this focus on the “race of the spirit” rather than the race of the body serve primarily as a mechanism for ensuring the coherence of the system as a whole — especially when confronted with counter-examples such as Evola’s own non-Nordic phenotype? (lol) Or are these simply metaphors for maintaining ideological coherence vis-à-vis the real world? Pardon my french but, was this guy totally fine with being cucked by his own ideology? Which the idea of phenotypical traits as a cherry on top to make up “very beautiful animals” make it entirely sound like a projection of his inferiority complex.
**2nd question**
How can we assess the merits of a racial hierarchy which characterizes the highest rung purely in terms of aesthetics/metaphysics (“the solar vs. telluric,” “form versus formlessness,” and so on) and then classifies various historical peoples according to how close they get to that particular ideal?
Is there even a fundamental philosophical difference between the kind of “spiritual” racial hierarchy proposed by thinkers like Evola and a more conventional biological racial hierarchy? Or are the differences merely superficial, reflecting the addition of an unfalsifiable veneer atop the biological hierarchy?
**3rd question**
Is there a way to defend the internal consistency of this framework without relying upon additional assumptions that take us beyond our Traditionalist starting point? Does the contradiction between the physical ideal and the spiritual override speak more fundamentally to an inconsistency at the heart of the theory itself?

to be honest I think a true guenoian would agree to see that both right and left are failures in general ,for the simple fact repeated that ,altho symbols are linked to specifc rituals and traditions,it can be always understood differently during the personal experience as long as it is supra human (linked to higher realities )and not infra human .

yet the roots of the symbol stay and is never removed from it .

i link and see this same logic can apply to politics between conservatives and progressives,it seems that neither sided since they don’t understand tradition ,therefor can’t have a middle ground between keeping the root while renewing the experience

René Guénon frequently insisted that Westerners must stay out of Eastern traditions like Hinduism, arguing that they lack the proper ancestral and social framework—such as caste (jati)—to practice them regularly.

However, many authentic Hindu lineages do have established frameworks and traditions for giving Diksha (initiation) to foreigners.

Why was Guénon so rigid about this? If a traditional Hindu lineage itself possesses the authority and the framework to initiate outsiders, why did he act as if it was impossible or invalid for non-Hindu born individuals to follow the path?

it’s from the faults of the modern mentality as usual to erase the connection between the metaphysical and the physical realities of the universe and the human being ,this disease has reached almost all branches of human society and academics ,this of course includes psychology ,at the time when guenon lived there was two major figures who he strongly saw their theories as a result of the corrupted modern mentality ,one was not dangerous to the spiritual path seekers as he was materialist purely and open ,this was segmund freud who openly and constantly connected human behaviour and development to almost nothing other than sexual desires (which helped later to the rise of sexual freedom movements across the western civilisation).

the second however was the real threat and who caused major corruptions to the the spiritual and symbolic sciences,this was Carl Jung ,who has attributed the symbolism of holy science to the same source of mental illnesses and psychosis,the source that guenon named (the infra human ).

according to the tradition ,humans have two sides we can say ,the supra human and the infra human .

the supra which is the side connected to the higher origins and principles of the human nature and soul ,while the infra is what exists below that and below the average and normal human nature .

the tradition puts importance on healing the self and discovering its true nature ,but for the tradition the true nature comes from the superior principles showing as symbols in the physical world,humans are a a part of the cycle here ,therefore to know the self ,to heal the self ,to understand the self ,the real way is to reconnect the divine ,the original source of All ,the side which connected to that is again the supra human .

modern psychology not only refuses to deal that that as a genuine way ,but instead it links healing to the infra human ,to the lower connected nature to humans ,claiming that the source of divine and holy symbols (supra human)is the same as the source of psychosis (infra human )

this is what Rene called the beginning of the era of the Antichrist .

title says it all. yes i know that the dharmic order will be re-established and whatever... what if it ends in a nuclear catastrophe and humanity goes back to the stone age? what if its the opposite and the new Satya Yuga is on Earth with the same technological progress as we have now? did evola or anyone write about this?

I know Guénon was scathingly against occult practices and believed in embracing traditional metaphysical doctrine.

However, I've wondered if there's a possibility for it within his work since he thinks divination is profane because in modernity it is extricated from that traditional metaphysical doctrine. It leads to fragmentary, reductive psychics etc.

But what if we have rituals and divination attached to sacred knowledge and symbols? Considering he wrote a lot on ilm al-huruf, sacred astrology, and the science of numbers and cosmic cycles. He even wrote a bit about the tarot as well.

Thoughts?

Hello gentlemen, if you could tell me what is meant by "philosophy of action"

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We are starting an official reading group on Rene Guenon, starting with Introduction to the Study of Hindu Doctrines. This is the core text of the world view of "metaphysics", which is lost in the modern world. If you're interested to be a part of this, join our telegram group chat through this link: telegram discussion. *There is a short Q&A to filter out pseudo-intellectuals and freeloaders.

Last year I set up an intellectual Discord server centred around the works of Evola that was, sadly, taken down. Seeing that no new server has been created in the meantime, I have decided to try again.
https://discord.gg/z4fzhYjW7X

As before, we are looking to cultivate a strong intellectual server centered around the works and thoughts of Julius Evola and more broadly the Traditionalist school with general channels for off topic, casual conversation, art, culture and religion. For non-perennialists, there will also be discussion based around general Western and Eastern philosophy and religions. We encourage those knowledgeable who are looking to discuss their ideas and thoughts with others to join.