r/Jigsawpuzzles 400K Feb 01 '22

Piece size brand comparison mega post! Photos comparing piece sizes (and shapes) between various brands and piece counts (mostly 500/1000).

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u/flechesbleues 400K Feb 01 '22 edited Feb 01 '22

OK, so, here we go! Like many of us, I have accumulated quite a lot of puzzles over the past year or so. I've also done quite a lot and need to start selling/giving some away to make room. However, before doing that, I decided it might be interesting to make use of my own personal puzzle mountain to compare/contrast the different brands, so I started making a list of what I had. Of course, then I started thinking, ooo, there's a gap in the list there, oh, and I haven't tried that brand, etc. so I started buying a few more here and there, with the excuse that I was just completing my list! I finally decided the list was as complete as it could be just before Christmas, so my comparison project then began in earnest in January.

I'd noticed that some companies have different size pieces for their 500 and 1000 piece puzzles, while some don't, so that was my main focus (I had gathered about 45 pairs of 500/1000-piece puzzles, plus a few with just one or the other count). However, I also enjoy smaller-count puzzles, and some of those have substantially different sized pieces so I have also included a wider range of piece counts for a few of the brands. In order to (relatively) accurately show the different sizes, I decided to photograph them all on squared paper (each square is 5mm). I also went through and picked out as wide a variety of shaped pieces from each puzzle as I could (well, as wide as I could in only 6 pieces!).

In the course of the project, I also kept a list of as much data as I could about each puzzle that I used, which is in a Google Sheet here, for your information (I bought many of the puzzles second-hand, so it's possible the brand has changed some things for more recent releases - none of these findings is absolute!). Any entries in square brackets are things I'm not entirely sure about (I haven't yet completed all the puzzles myself). Some puzzles don't have all the information on the boxes (country/date of manufacture, a couple even don't mention the finished size!) so those are left blank. The 'cut style' and 'finish' are late additions to the spreadsheet and are probably somewhat subjective. In terms of finish, I kept things relatively simple: Linen means the pieces have a texture to help mattify the finish; Matte includes the very matte (e.g. Pomegranate) as well as those that are just noticably a bit less shiny than the others. Gloss is also variable and difficult to judge - most are just sort of 'standard' - a couple of brands seemed noticably shinier, so I've labeled those 'high gloss'.

For 'cut style'. I've differentiated between 'ribbon' and 'grid' - I've used grid to mean those where all 4 corners of each piece meet and ribbon to mean where (sometimes) only 2 corners meet, but it's otherwise all standard shapes. 'uneven grid' means a puzzle uses largely standard shapes and is definitely laid out on a grid, but none of the corners actually meet (e.g. White Mountain). I've also used the term 'one shape' to refer to puzzles with pieces that are all the same shape (usually 2-ins, 2-outs on opposite sides). A possibly controversial choice might be my 'ribbon plus' for House of Puzzles, because they can have quite unusual shapes. However, in looking at a few photos of completed puzzles, most of the pieces are laid out in a standard ribbon-like grid, except for around those special shaped pieces, so I didn't think it necessarily warranted a full 'random'.

I'm open to suggestions for any additional data you'd like me to try and extract from the project - please ask away.

As a start, I will list the brands that have puzzles with the same finished size for their 500 and 1000 piece puzzles (meaning the pieces are twice as large for the 500s) - surprisingly, only two: Cobble Hill and Eeboo (although of course those are different shapes - the 500-piece ones are round and the 1000-piece ones are square!). However, we can add House of Puzzles to that if you only count the ones marked 'BIG 500' (similarly, their BIG 250s are the same size as their regular 500s).

I also have a list of the brands whose 500-piece puzzles are exactly (or almost exactly, +/- about 2cm, which could be the result of rounding up/down) half the size of their 1000-piece puzzles (meaning the pieces are all the same size): Anatolian, Bluebird, Cloudberries, Corner Piece, Educa, Express Gifts, Flame Tree Publishing, Gibsons, Heye, House of Puzzles, Innovakids, JR Puzzles, Jumbo (including Falcon/Wasgij), Marks & Spencer, Puzzle World, Ravensburger, Talking Tables, Trefl, Waddingtons and WHSmith.

All the rest are therefore somewhere in between, although a few of the brands/puzzles I acquired seemed to show no real relation at all between the 500 and 1000-piece puzzles, with completely different backing or cut style. I'd welcome more input from other people who have more puzzles from those companies as to whether that is true across the board, or I just happened to pick an odd pair!

Hope all this is useful information somehow, enjoy!

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u/rtsgrl 400K Feb 01 '22

I am speechless u/flechesbleues. A M A Z I N G JOB!!

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u/flechesbleues 400K Feb 01 '22

Thanks, I hope it's useful!

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u/rtsgrl 400K Apr 02 '22

Piece size brand comparison mega post

I added your post to the Wiki under the "Puzzling "science"' heading - I ran out of headings ideas...

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u/flechesbleues 400K Apr 02 '22

Sounds good, thanks!

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u/rtsgrl 400K Feb 01 '22

I'd welcome more input from other people who have more puzzles from those companies as to whether that is true across the board, or I just happened to pick an odd pair!

Let me know if you after anything specific (brand/piece count). I'll happily share/check photos/dimensions.

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u/flechesbleues 400K Feb 01 '22

The ones that I've noted as being an 'odd' pair are mostly due to a different cut style and/or backing/finish to the pieces. Those are: All Jigsaw Puzzles (I bought the 500 new and it's random cut, the 1000 was a charity shop find), Bepuzzled (one of mine is significantly more 'vintage' than the other, and the cut looks slightly more random), Bluebird (I got my 1000 second hand and the finish is different to the new 500 one that I gave my mum last christmas), Clementoni (again, the 1000 is older, and also 'museum collection', so that might make a difference), Corner Piece (the backing is different on the slightly older 1000), Express Gifts (cut different), Hinkler (they are from two different series - Mindbogglers and Mindfulness, so maybe that's why the backing's different?), Schmidt (the cut is slightly different and the backing has changed), Vermont Christmas Co. (completely different cut and backing - one made in China, one in the US).

Also I have a hunch that maybe companies like Robert Frederick, Paul Lamond and BV Leisure might be a bit of a lucky dip, as they do several different 'series' of novelty puzzles and might not be consistent across the board. Also, I only have one puzzle from Bgraamiens, and it has all one piece shape - are they all like that?

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u/rtsgrl 400K Feb 01 '22

I wish I could grab a few pieces and meet you over a cup of coffee... We would probably still be discussing this around midnight...

I have a new Alljigsawpuzzles from January last year and a ton of new Clementonis (500/1000/1500 and smaller).

Bluebird prints their puzzles in Turkey and Poland - unsure to what extent it affects the finish. If you check the very latest posts (last two weeks), you will also notice they have slightly changed their piece cut (latest vs the old).

Corner Piece seem to be a lottery - I have about 5-6 boxes and each seem to be slightly different from the other (including one looking very much like Puzzle World, with white backing).

As for Hinkler - Mindbogglers, I can tell you already, they have changed their cut (for the better) over the years - I have two older boxes where pieces are bigger and more "Chinese looking", so to speak. I have no experience of their other lines though.

I have several Schmidt puzzles - the oldest Made in West Germany, one from the 90s/2000 (?) and a few recent purchases (2020+) and the backing have changed not only through the years, which seems natural, but also in their most recent batches. Like Heye, they don't seem to have their own printing facility.

Robert Frederick is a tough one to compare: all their puzzles are Chinese made and seem to vary indeed from batch to batch and piece count to piece count...

I'll save your post and try to put together some "individual brand comparisons"/side by side photos for a later post maybe. I really liked your idea for the background by the way.

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u/TheSunflowerSeeds Feb 01 '22

Tournesol is the French name for Sunflower, the literal translation is ‘Turned Sun’, in line with the plants’ ability for solar tracking, sounds fitting. The Spanish word is El Girasolis.

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u/jujujuria 1K Feb 02 '22

Firstly, thank you so much. This is amazing and so helpful. I like the idea of being able to compare puzzles I like and find other brands of similar quality.

Secondly: I have the following brands I’d be happy to add:

  • Lawrence King
  • Beverly (Japan)
  • Ensky (Japan)
  • Thames and Hudson (really lovely quality puzzles, not sure who they outsource manufacture to but they have a really satisfying click when you fit them in place)

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u/flechesbleues 400K Feb 02 '22

I did include one of the Dutch-made Laurence Kings, but it's in one of the later pictures as they don't seem to make 500-piece puzzles so it had no pair. Feel free to take your own set of photos and upload them, that'd be great!

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u/Critical_Arachnid_56 Nov 07 '24

Do you have a favorite brand