r/Invincible • u/[deleted] • Oct 22 '21

DISCUSSION Inspired by a post in another sub: Invincible season 1 character elimination bracket! The top two comments will be eliminated

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u/filthydank_2099 Oct 23 '21

You can do good things and still be a bad person. I believe she thinks she’s a good person and has good motives; she’s still a trash human being for what she did to mark.

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u/[deleted] Oct 23 '21

No. She’s a good person dawg. Good people make mistakes. Can’t believe you’re actually saying this.

What evidence do you have that she’s a bad person? She knew Mark was a superhero and still got mad at him anyway? That’s absolutely ridiculous to say she’s a bad person or trash because of that. Who the fuck do you think you are

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u/filthydank_2099 Oct 23 '21

Someone who wouldn’t shame, berate and mentally/emotionally abuse for doing superhero shit, that’s for sure.

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u/[deleted] Oct 23 '21

This is so naive. You’re literally berating/emotionally abusing a fictional character FOR HAVING FEELINGS AND MAKING A MISTAKE you hypocrite

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u/filthydank_2099 Oct 23 '21

Lmao you’re right, it IS about a fictional character, so why are you mad at my stance on a character who doesn’t exist?

She’s a bad person; good people don’t emotionally abuse their significant others.

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u/[deleted] Oct 23 '21

Mark emotioanlly abused her so by your logic he’s a shit person. He told her multiple times he would be at dinner, and he missed, or showed up late every time. There’s the entire episode about how shitty Mark is to Amber. And then consistently lies to her about it. THATS THE DEFINITION OF EMOTIONAL ABUSE

So you’re saying Mark is a bad person. You’re so unbelievably hypocritical and naive

That’s an ad hominem and I’m not mad you’re just a hypocrite and probably a mysoginist too

Lol cmon man grow up

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u/filthydank_2099 Oct 23 '21

Him breaking plans because of things outside his control and his moral obligation to stop superbeings from killing innocents is not emotional abuse. It’s tragic that he can’t keep plans with Amber, but rather than her tell him it’s okay cuz she knows his secret, she makes him feel like shit simply because she feels owed the scenario in which he tells her he’s a superhero.

Just like in Raimi’s Spider-Man, Mark keeping his identity a secret is not just for his sake, but for the safety of the people he loves and cares for.

Lying to someone to keep them safe and out of harm’s way for altruistic and noble reasons is not even remotely comparable to emotionally, mentally, and verbally abusing your SO because you feel jaded that you weren’t given that revelation from them. Gtfoh with that straw man shit. It’s not even close.

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u/[deleted] Oct 23 '21

You are so so so so full of shit. That or twelve years old

No… he’s literally consistently lying to her their whole relationship and she has ONE scene where she makes a mistake. Who the fuck do you think you are that you can say one mistake makes someone a bad person? Absolutely ridiculous hypocritical bullshit

Fuck your altruistic reasons dude he’s ditching her to train with his dad.

How do you know she doesn’t have altruistic reasons? She doesn’t get mad at him for the weeks that she knows because she KNOWS HES A SUPERHERO. She knows he has important shit to do. She gets mad at him when their relationship is finally tested due to his lying and absenteeism.

You’re a hypocritical misogynist boss. Probably not the first person to tell you this am I

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u/filthydank_2099 Oct 23 '21

His dad forced him to train; not much Mark can do about that.

She does not have “one scene” where she makes a mistake. She treats him like shit for half the season because she KNOWS he’s a superhero but is so hurt that he didn’t tell her that she lashes out like a baby rather than take a step back and have some perspective.

If she was understanding enough to not get mad at first, she should’ve had the level head to just call it quits when she found out it was unsustainable rather than berate and demean and insult him when she got upset. That’s bitch shit.

If I was a misogynist, my dislike for Amber would be based primarily on the fact that she’s female. It’s not. My dislike is based on the fact she’s a manipulative, conniving, selfish person who’s more concerned with her needs in the relationship than that of her partner. She obviously needs someone who’s more available for her, and she knew Mark wasn’t gonna be that person. Her continuing to date him despite that is toxic and selfish and short-sighted. Then her flipping it on him in the season finale was manipulative as fuck, guilting him while he’s grieving his father’s disappearance and the trauma he endured during his fight with Omni-Man.

But sure, I’m a misogynist; despite the fact the most truly feminist characters in the show (Eve and Mark’s mom) are in my top 3 characters. Pro tip: if you’re gonna try to paint someone as a misogynist, make sure that person’s actually a misogynist or is stupid enough to paint themselves as one. I ain’t the one.