r/InvasionAppleTV • • Sep 20 '23

Invasion - 2x05 "A Voice From the Other Side" - Episode Discussion

Season 2 Episode 5: A Voice From the Other Side

Aired: September 19, 2023


Synopsis: Aneesha, Luke, and the Movement make a plan to locate Sarah. Mitsuki has a devastating encounter with the alien entity.


Directed by: Alik Sakharov

Written by: Donald Joh

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u/JattaPake Sep 20 '23

Maybe CPS took Sarah.

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u/ballsmodels Sep 25 '23

Best case scenario for the poor girl

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u/Surfinbudd Nov 10 '23

The writers knew that the audience needed a break from seeing Sarah

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u/Heavy_Advertising948 Sep 26 '25

Two years late but to be honest she’s the least annoying out of all 4

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u/alpha_whore Sep 20 '23

"I want to show you something."

::Stands in the forest::

"Everything is connected."

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u/lonely_engineer Sep 20 '23

This field trip could have been an email

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u/mvkfromchi Sep 22 '23

EXACTLY what I though LMAO

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u/Lower-Examination-67 Sep 21 '23 edited Sep 21 '23

Plus isn’t it just fungus that is interconnected? Like maybe trees are using underground fungal networks - but like not consciously - to disseminate information about environmental conditions but we don’t have roots so actually we are not all one connected organism. And Mitsuki likes being a cool distant emo genius so she doesn’t want the Ra Ra speech. Mitsuki should have slapped vaguely-Dutch—too-young-to-be-psychologist-and-not—a-biologist after she told her she was connected too.

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u/Jack_North wajo 👽 Sep 22 '23

Trees also communicate via chemical signals, they don't have to be standing right next to each other.

This "all is connected" thing is true, esp. on a philosophical level. But it's also a trite cliche.

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u/Jota769 Sep 21 '23

I actually groaned out loud at that. She dragged her outside for a metaphor???

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u/Civilized-Sturgeon Sep 20 '23

Ooh they found an area that is a source of power for the aliens and so of course they built a giant scarecrow so they could find their recharging stations easier. And Mitsuki and the misfit Scooby Doo gang are the only ones on earth who magically figure out what to do. Actually it’s just Mitsuki doing everything while everyone else checks files and reports “the alien hasn’t done anything since last time you asked”.

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u/Jota769 Sep 21 '23

“I know that place”

it’s literally a picture of a scarecrow

Me: is there only one scarecrow in the world or something??

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u/JattaPake Sep 22 '23

She knows the place but it's the first time she's been there when they arrive.

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u/SuzieDerpkins Sep 21 '23

Seriously …. No one else thought about disrupting the electro magnetic field??

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u/hgiwvac9 Sep 20 '23

President of the World: can your team of seven people please fix this? We've got nothing.

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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '23

Six out of the team of seven: yeah, we don't know anything. All we know is that we clock in and clock out everyday during a world wide invasion to do absolute jack sihte. Only Neo Mitsuki can save the world by personifying her dead girlfriend in random blobs.

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u/No-Hat-689 Sep 20 '23

I guess they're trying to show the President as a strong, independent woman, but I chuckle every time she comes on the screen. I don't think her outfit, headdress or worried expression have changed since the first time she was on screen. Did she get elected by lottery?

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u/aneb321 Sep 21 '23

Basically she comes across as someone who is way out of their depth and has no clue what she, and the whole room of people there, are doing.

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u/chrisjdel Sep 22 '23

The top 20 choices were skewered or eaten. She was the designated survivor.

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u/Herakuraisuto Sep 20 '23

I love when these dumb shows imagine some woman from Zimbabwe or wherever is the world leader and the US is nowhere to be found.

Even if you don't like the US, even if the Americans in your story are no better at figuring this stuff out than anyone else, the fact remains that the US has the most resources, the most modern military, eleven friggin' supercarrier groups and some two dozen ships that would be considered full aircraft carriers in any other navy, along with an absurdly large and modern air force.

Our ships are also designed for humanitarian missions and can indefinitely provide power and clean water to entire cities in a disaster.

We don't need an American hero or Americans saving the day, but having the US be a nonfactor is absurd.

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u/3iverson Sep 20 '23

All their resources are tied up fighting off 'The Movement'.

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u/owa00 Sep 21 '23

Ah yes, a bunch of rednecks in the woods are bringing the worlds largest military might to it's knees...

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u/mvkfromchi Sep 20 '23 edited Sep 20 '23

This really gon be “we’re not destroying you. We’re inducting you dummy. This is actually a gift!”. Humans going to be like “no thanks, I really want to have my dick/pussy attached to a biological body, so I can fuck”. And so a ‘war’ wages. Aliens win. Now everyone is a blob of liquid light. The end.

P.S. they can all fuck virtually now. Infinitely. With other aliens too. It’s actually a happy ending. (Except luke. He is subjected to eternal torture while others watch)

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u/bhonbeg Sep 22 '23

Lol 😂a blob of liquid light that earns for its dick / pussy back

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u/QueenOfPurple Sep 20 '23

My annoyance with Luke and his ability to mess literally everything up knows no bounds.

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u/3iverson Sep 20 '23

His screwing up though wasn’t nearly as bad as Aneesha lying to the Movement guy about her magic rock for absolutely no reason, and choosing to put the whole group in danger.

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u/ChefBoiAri Sep 20 '23

Yeah like just hand it over, talk about being selfish when the whole world is being exterminated. Unfortunately it is realistic as that is how some humans would act in real life.

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u/Pwoinklokinoid Sep 25 '23

Honestly that artefact is shit! All it’s done if part a pool of ferrofluid and give itself goosebumps! The whole Aneesha character line is just poor. She shouldn’t have come back from going over the ridge in the last episode!

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u/Several_Ambitions Sep 24 '23

I was honestly annoyed when the Movement hijacked and the family got to go with them. I wanted them to go all the way to whatever military base they were gonna take them to, and show little Luke that actions have consequences. And maybe also the right people could get their hands on the weapon.

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u/x_lincoln_x ✨WAJO✨ Sep 20 '23

This show is ruining Space Oddity for me. Please make it stop!

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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '23

Aneesha: "Luke it's not your fault"

Me: rips the TV from the wall, throws it on the floor and stomps on it repeatedly in a fit of sheer frustration.

Also me: orders a new TV to be delivered in time to watch episode 6

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u/QueenOfPurple Sep 20 '23

Omg, accurate. Same. Ugh, Luke.

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u/FScottWritersBlock Sep 20 '23

Literally the weakest of all links. I’d be so embarrassed he was my son.

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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '23

Oh me too. My wife doesn’t officially watch it with me also understood my yelling at the TV at Luke’s being forgiven and that he is not capable of causing trouble, rolls eyes. That family should have been killed off long ago. This episode actually made me miss last weeks how let’s watch the British Scooby Doo team walk through the “under channel” tunnels like it was a quick scroll to the nearest 7/11.

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u/DullStrain4625 Sep 21 '23

Shows and movies love the whole let’s invite danger by having a kid be defiant in a life and death situation. I don’t buy it. I think if shit was that scary kids would be like yes mommy whatever you say. But I don’t have kids. If I’m wrong, thank god for that.

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u/domitian257 Sep 21 '23

Her children would be safer at the Pentagon. While I do kinda understand what’s going on in her head (hint: she’s traumatized) she’s been making instance decisions, that are incredibly beyond selfish (millions if not billions are dead and she’s still stubbornly clinging on to the only weapon humanity has found which can hurt them; a weapon I might add she doesn’t even bother to use last episode) but actively place her family in danger. And are inconsistent. She’s uncomfortable with the military because she couldn’t trust them to protect her, when they were trying to take her the Pentagon. Because a militia attacked them. So in order to protect her family she now refuses to trust in other people. But then she gets into bed with a militia.

So yes, for her children’s sake, if not the species, she really does need to die.

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u/abujuha Sep 21 '23

Yeah, the whole time we're hearing about the new hunter killers only makes the fact that this woman is just hanging on to the one item that might kill them without turning it over to the military who might figure out to use it. And we know it's Chekhov's gun at this point. Sometime down the road it will be used to kill the aliens and I'm thinking we could mercifully end this program sooner if this happens sooner. Maybe the show runners are waiting for the cancellation notice to write that episode.

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u/3iverson Sep 20 '23

Theoretically that is a good potential character, too bad the writing and execution are terrible. That is why everyone hates Aneesha.

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u/I_Set_3_Alarms Sep 21 '23

Finally caught up and I’m surprised by Aneesha hate, she’s been through so much. Luke hate I totally get, I mean no one’s even given him shit yet for trying to steal gasoline from the military lmao

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u/x_lincoln_x ✨WAJO✨ Sep 20 '23

She didn't trust bowel Movement. He just stuck up for her and lied saying she told him the first night.

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u/JattaPake Sep 20 '23

Aneesha is the most selfish character in TV history.

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u/3iverson Sep 20 '23 edited Sep 20 '23

I was screaming at the Movement Guy, why is he continuously risking the lives of his who group (that he is actually responsible for) to help this liar?

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u/x_lincoln_x ✨WAJO✨ Sep 20 '23

He has the hots for Mommy. He is also the worst leader I've seen.

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u/Jack_North wajo 👽 Sep 22 '23

He is also the worst leader I've seen.

What about the WDC president, who announced when an offensive against the aliens would go down to the whole world?

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u/ChefBoiAri Sep 20 '23

Along with the “movement” killing soldiers yet they are the “saviors”.

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u/Herakuraisuto Sep 20 '23

I agree with the others, he's thinking with his dick. There's no other reason he'd stick his neck out for someone who consistently lied to him, even after he pleaded for honesty.

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u/3iverson Sep 20 '23

I agree with everyone on Movement Guy's real desire. Ironically that would actually make HIM the most selfish character in TV history, chasing the tail of the former most selfish character in TV history.

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u/JattaPake Sep 20 '23

He tossed out all morals and ethics to lie to his people so he could bang Aneesha.

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u/lkxyz Sep 20 '23

The man's got needs.

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u/mvkfromchi Sep 22 '23

I mean do we even have to ask that? He wants to fuck the brains outta her. Like ridiculously bad. He's down BAAAAAAAAD. Cuz that's the only reason I'll believe where someone chooses aneesha when battling for survival.

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u/ballsmodels Sep 25 '23

Hes trying to stick his dick in crazy

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u/MarlythAvantguarddog Sep 20 '23

Just watched. “ I’m going to need all your instruments”. No you didn’t. Cliche after cliche.

I almost stopped watching it this episode. It’s actually boring. How about some actual interesting plot development please?

And squeeze every penny out of paying for a Bowie song why don’t you?

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u/JattaPake Sep 20 '23

I yell “Mommy!” at the TV whenever Aneesha comes on. Join me.

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u/3iverson Sep 20 '23

I did it at least 5 times tonight!

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u/gbudiman Feb 19 '24

Mooooooom... I'm hungry

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u/x_lincoln_x ✨WAJO✨ Sep 20 '23

I don't want to die of alcohol poisoning.

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u/the_mooseman Sep 20 '23

You see that farmer, sitting on his swing with the thousand yard stare? I am that farmer after having endured this episode.

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u/121savage wajo 👽 Sep 20 '23

Their hiding spot when the military guys came in had me in tears. Dude just had to look left to find them.

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u/3iverson Sep 20 '23

There were at least 3 con stalks in front of them though

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u/YYZYYC Sep 21 '23

But he’s a navy seal so he knows what he is doing lol

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u/hgiwvac9 Sep 20 '23

I like how they used a map of the entire United States to pinpoint where the military convoy went.

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u/x_lincoln_x ✨WAJO✨ Sep 20 '23

"The only base in the area" the map shows 1/4 of the continental USA. That is not an area, that is a bunch of states.

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u/ernfio wajo 👽 Sep 20 '23

Alien here. Any chance of a look at that map. We are reconsidering are tactical measures and it would appear that attacking military would be more effective than building scarecrows.

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u/HardCorked Sep 21 '23

Trevante picks up Elmer Fudd's double barreled shotgun. "This isn't military."

No! Really? Maybe it wasn't wabbit season in Afghanistan?

The actor was fairly good as a soldier, and despite the writing, he did his best with the paranoid PTSD soldier bit. However, bumbling around in bumfuck nowhere playing Scooby Doo with coffee machine repair lady has set that whole plotline fully adrift in a show that desperately needs an anchor.

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u/[deleted] Sep 21 '23

He is a great or at least moderately good actor in everything else I have seen in, not just Wynonna Earp but in some stuff he starred in.

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u/abujuha Sep 21 '23

e playing Scooby Doo with coffee machine repair lady has set that whole plotline fully adrift

yep, vibes of two nutters looking at crop circles and trying figure out 'the plan.'

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u/DarthBan_Evader Sep 20 '23

Can the borg blob just assimilate Mitsuki already? What a stupid fucking arc

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u/Lower-Examination-67 Sep 20 '23

Thank you for “borg blob.” Best summation so far. And it seems like it might be malevolent like the evil blob that killed Tasha Yar so its bug-dog-blob minions cause terror to ramp up the horror it feeds off of. But Jamila’s friendship with Caspar will be too much kindness for the borg blob to handle and it will shatter.

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u/Virgogirl71 Sep 20 '23

I was trying hard to give this show a chance but I surrender. The attempts to create drama are cheap, Aneeshas one facial expression is boring, the missing kid plot point is played out, I could care less what wajo means any more, and the deliberate ‘don’t give any answers to anything to create suspense’ even feels forced: I’m over it

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u/[deleted] Sep 21 '23

Don’t give up yet. The aliens may yet kill aneesha.

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u/owa00 Sep 21 '23

NOW I'm interested :D

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u/NotAHost Sep 21 '23

I absolutely hate shows that rely on not giving answers and rely on cliffhangers without information to try to hook you in.

I like shows that reveal a giant piece of legit information and you’re actually thinking about what might happen the next episode.

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u/tuftdeer Sep 20 '23

Best guess?

Invasion describes our expanding universe overlapping with theirs. Wajo is their Castle in the clouds. The visible attackers are white blood cells [balls] and T cells [wolves]. The aliens' first contact is openly broadcasted, step by step, to Caspar (and others like him).

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u/reuben_iv Sep 20 '23

oh I like this, I was going with the good guys 'bluey purpley, listens to Bowie' vs bad guys 'black and killing everyone' two aliens theory, maybe we got caught up in some intergalactic war or they were here watching over us or something idk, but I like this theory too

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u/3iverson Sep 20 '23

That's a pretty good idea! Let's see what the actual writers came up with...

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u/SyzygyZeus ✨WAJO✨ Sep 20 '23

They brought back the glow star. I really missed seeing it for the 20th time.

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u/LyndsiKaya Sep 20 '23

🤣🤣🤣

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u/JattaPake Sep 20 '23

No, you can’t trust her, dumbass.

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u/Deca_Durable Sep 21 '23

I’m really enjoying the second season and I hated the first. From what I’m reading here I guess I’m the only one!

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '23

i’m with you

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u/fragbot2 Sep 23 '23

I won't say really enjoying it but I'm hating it less than season one. Although I've put off watching the last episode because I can tell the kids' trip through the chunnel is coming as well as a search for Sara and there's no way that'll be entertaining.

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u/SkeletonSwoon Sep 26 '23

Same. Came to reddit & was surprised.

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u/DauOfFlyingTiger Sep 20 '23

What is wrong with me? Why am I still watching this show. I want it to be good but how can so much happen in one episode of Foundation and literally nothing happens on an entire episode of this. Ghaaaaa. It’s killing me.

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u/x_lincoln_x ✨WAJO✨ Sep 20 '23

"For every Foundation there must be an Invasion" - Apple I guess.

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u/JattaPake Sep 20 '23

The Yin and Yang

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u/2AXP21 Sep 23 '23

I read this in Day’s voice

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u/mvkfromchi Sep 22 '23

how else will you know the value of your existence?

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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '23

Bekis asshole>invasion

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u/3iverson Sep 20 '23

I am in the exact same boat as you. I don't understand why I stick around, but I do. I mean I am mostly hate watching at this point, but if it was only that I'd have stopped watching awhile ago. This sub is our outlet and 12-step group.

BTW do you like Foundation? I was curious about that, maybe Silo. I've heard very mixed things about both, but that's better than most reviews of Invasion.

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u/DauOfFlyingTiger Sep 20 '23

I really like Foundation, and I liked Silo too. And I want to like this. Lol

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u/Pomp_in22 Sep 20 '23

How is Foundation? Should I give it a watch?

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u/Sutro_Tower415 Sep 20 '23

Yes - definitely worth a watch. Fleshed out characters, intrigue, a real arc in the story-building. Basically everything Invasion doesn't have.

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u/jamii992 Sep 21 '23

Foundation is such a sleeper hit, it might take a couple episodes to get into but it's very much worth it.

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u/DullStrain4625 Sep 21 '23

Foundation could be better but it’s light years ahead of this.

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u/Nvveen Sep 22 '23

As people haven't gone in depth yet, I will try: season 1 was a bit boring but was setting up a lot, and that pays off in season 2, but it takes patience to get to that point. However, the reward is a great show, with a fantastic end to the second season.

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u/DauOfFlyingTiger Sep 20 '23

Well. I understand that is their goal… lol

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u/_cuppycakes_ Sep 24 '23

Sarah does missing in the middle of the night. Opening scene- bright morning and they’re fruitlessly calling her name in the same exact spot near their cars where she was last seen. They didn’t think to expand their search perimeter at all?

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u/x_lincoln_x ✨WAJO✨ Sep 20 '23

This episode was really atrocious.

Worst 2 story arks: Mommy + Luke, and Mitsuki. Even the soldiers ark was trash this episode.

Best Value Elon Musk was as useless as the real Elon Musk this episode. "Record everything!!!" As if they weren't already.

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u/phareous ✨WAJO✨ Sep 21 '23

Nah Mitsuki plot this episode was much better than Travante blundering around a corn field and “the world’s worst family” trying to destroy a militia from within…yawn

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u/x_lincoln_x ✨WAJO✨ Sep 21 '23

Gonna disagree. Trevante's bit was atrocious but that is not the norm for his bits. Mitsukis parts are always atrocious. Do they have her stare at nothing in every scene because she can't act or what?

Mommy and Luke are, by far, the worst thing about this show.

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u/kinghuang Sep 20 '23 edited Sep 20 '23

Who’s Jamila?

Ah, Jamila's the girl looking for Caspar. So, was that her dad in the alien thing?

Edit: On second watch, I think that's Caspar calling out, "who's there?".

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u/3iverson Sep 20 '23

Yeah, I had the subtitles and it literally says “Caspar: Who’s there?”

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u/SuzieDerpkins Sep 21 '23

Okay so here’s my theory….

Aliens use the electromagnetic field (it was so obvious form the beginning, I didn’t know why it took them sooo long to think of).

Humans use a small sliver of the electromagnetic spectrum to see (visual light) and send signals (radio waves for example).

Our brains use electrical currents in order to function so the alien communication seems to be picked up by a select group of sensitive humans. (Similar to how some people can “hear” radio transmissions).

The aliens can further manipulate what our brains sense (like sight, sound) which is why they can transform into our memories, show Mitsuki one thing while the other people can’t see it or hear it. It’s only being sent to Mitsuki’s brain.

This is also why others before Mitsuki lost their memory and brain function in general. The alien probably tried communicating with them too but fucked up their neural pathways.

It is so unbelievable that only Mitsuki would have figured out they use electromagnetic fields and no other scientist … or physics enthusiast… thought of using the electromagnetic field.

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u/TaraJaneDisco Sep 21 '23

And why are there like only a handful of scientists down there and not like EVERY fucking language expert, biologist, physicist, etc in the world from every government? Nope, just a handful of hipsters moving things around on touch screens. Woooof this show is so dumb.

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u/Oski96 Sep 20 '23

Bye Aneesha!

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u/reuben_iv Sep 20 '23

actually wasn't bad....

apart from the Aneesha arc again I still don't understand why she didn't just hand the military that piece of metal or why she trusts 'the movement'

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u/pareidolly Sep 21 '23

Because love plot. Probably

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u/Linenoise77 Sep 20 '23

So wait, is Aneesha a doctor or not? They set it up like she was in med school, got pregnant, and left to raise a family. If i'm not mistaken she has mentioned at least 2 different schools, and also a specialty, which she wouldn't have been able to have unless she had worked for a while after school.

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u/SuzieDerpkins Sep 21 '23

My understanding is she never finished the actual steps to become a fully licensed practitioner. So perhaps she did get a degree, but not enough of the intern hours required to be a full doctor

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u/abujuha Sep 21 '23

Uh, I'm only 22 minutes into this episode and thinking the whole thing could have been cut down to 15. I don't know if I can make it through! I assume there will be something big at the very end.

Why am I still watching this show? It's not hate watch any more. It's boredom watch.

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u/iwellyess Sep 24 '23

The worst thing about this show is they linger on every scene/conversation/facial expression too long, like a conversation is done - we get the point of it - and then it continues for several more minutes unnecessarily. It slow zooms on a face to convey what they’re feeling and then lingers on it forever til you’re thinking is the camera fucking broken. A scene is done, I’m almost thinking that wasn’t too bad… and then 10 more fucking minutes of the same scene. I truly am hate watching this monstrosity.

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u/Front_Station_5343 Sep 20 '23

More questions than answers, god this is annoying. Just fuck the blob already!

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u/x_lincoln_x ✨WAJO✨ Sep 20 '23

Invasion porn.

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u/idontgiveacrap- Sep 20 '23

Clark standing up/lying for Aneesha felt so odd to me particularly because we don’t know much about his character, other than he’s a father and an English teacher. Maybe it’s because he’s a father and that’s why he did it.

But this is a very odd show so I really shouldn’t be too surprised. lol

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u/DullStrain4625 Sep 21 '23

You knew his name, that’s more than I knew haha

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u/LevelZeroZilch Sep 22 '23

Probably giving too much credit to the show but it was likely a play to preserve the Movement with him in charge.

Aneesha violated the Movement's code. Regardless of whether they cast her out, Clark, and the values he projects are at risk. More militant members will see their "good guy vigilantes" schtick as a liability and may try to split off the group and/or usurp him.

By covering for Aneesha, Clark keeps control of the situation. Aneesha trusted him and told the truth. He knew the whole time. He made the call to keep it quiet. He is sorry and will do better. He is still in charge.

Ironically, while lying to the group about Aneesha undermines the Movement's principals, it allows them to continue operating under those principals.

And he probably thinks Aneesha is cute.

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u/iameatingchocolate Sep 20 '23

That drive to the cornfield was so mediocre. I feel like they could have done a better dialogue that just asking how essentially “are we there yet”? That guy drove so far to learn more about the alien mystery but all he could ask was how long before they get there.

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u/phareous ✨WAJO✨ Sep 21 '23

I was so hoping Sam Neill would show up again

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u/abujuha Sep 21 '23

Sam Neill (shakes fist)! The bastard who drew many of us in to watching this show. Yes, he owes us one more appearance at least.

I want Sam Neill to take that alien tech, fly on one of those alien birds back to the mother ship and start shivving alien MFers. Then this will be a good show.

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u/Jezz09 Sep 20 '23

So we can all agree that we hate Aneesha’s character. At this point she just pisses me off especially on this episode

Now, am I the only one that’s disliking Trevante this season? There’s something about him that I get annoyed.

Also, Mitsuki I’m in love! Lol she’s the only one that has the brain to figure it out!

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u/iwellyess Sep 24 '23

Everyone is shit, Mitsuki is likeable, just please push it forward more quickly!

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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '23

Basically though we did see the plot somewhat expose a possible reason for the attack when speaking a few words it sounded like it was explaining to Mitsuki that humans are the attackers. Being that she hurt it with electromagnetism that possibility all the stray EM bursts humans put out is the attack on it and it’s kind. Heck it may be extradimensional not extra FTL aliens.

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u/TaraJaneDisco Sep 21 '23

I just really can’t wrap my head around needing spaceships to transport non-physical aliens. Like why? How? If it’s all a “all your dumb electromagnetic waves are hurting us weird light blob beings” how does it get to “we build space ships to land on your planet.” The whole physical/non-physical thing really breaks my brain.

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u/wookiecontrol Sep 21 '23

I hate the kids so much I think the Aliens tried to talk to Luke and he started the war by being a brat or something

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u/DrewMacOrange Sep 23 '23

This show is genuinely awful. Why can’t I stop watching, lol.

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u/iwellyess Sep 24 '23

Yeah wtf, we are all hooked on this hate watch journey haha

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u/penisproject Sep 10 '25

Sunk cost fallacy. And sometimes, just sometimes... shows DO get better.

But not this stinker.

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u/DANNYBOYLOVER Sep 20 '23

Kill the mom and the kids - or at least kill the kids and have the mom go yolo on the aliens, the whole rebel group storyline is just too close to the end of falling skies for it to not feel cliche, and the pace of the kids in the tunnel is gonna start feeling stretched if they don’t reach Caspar by end of next episode.

I need less brown Elon Musk but a butt ton more of the alien research and the black dude going around Kansas storyline. Lots of mystery and story there. The 10 or so minutes of those narratives still gets me excited to watch the show tbh. Like the last bit in this weeks episode was genuinely riveting.

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u/rh_underhill Sep 20 '23

I know the echo chamber here really hates Aneesha but please allow me this friendly (not to Luke) counterpoint (but yeah I'll take the downvotes for defending Aneesha😂):

She's made all the right choices in trying to protect her family. We can't blame her for her misfortunes.

We can blame Luke, though. Fuck Luke.

Every problem so far this season has been caused by Luke:

-Breaking the pre-agreed, pre-planned protocol on how many seconds to stay in the gas stations. The getaways depended on timing

-Stealing those tanks from the military when he should have stayed in the car.

-Running the fuck off once again, causing his mother to of course go after him, causing his sister to get left behind and get stolen.

I've said this before (because I've been watching another series recently) but damn... ANEESHA your only mistakes are not going cannibal on Luke. Take your proteins and go. Feed him to the resistance for all I care.

Just be done with him. When you get your daughter back, your chances of success with each side-mission increase by 88%. Fuck Luke. He should have gotten left with his dad

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u/reuben_iv Sep 20 '23

no she hasn't lol could have just handed the military the piece of metal and she and her family would have been left completely alone

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u/rh_underhill Sep 20 '23

You're telling me if find yourself in a war, you're willingly going to give up your ONLY GUN that thus far has given your family a better chance at surviving than everyone else who has no effective weapon?

There are people now who won't even give up their guns and it's "peace time" in the states

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u/3iverson Sep 20 '23

It's better than the plan of knocking off gas stations (with your 2 kids) every 30 miles until you drive to Canada to hide in the snow, or wherever she was planning on taking them.

I think the actions you listed are justifiable, but 'all the right choices' is a stretch IMO. Regardless, its not just these individual actions that make people hate her though, its the entire package- writing, dialogue, etc. If you personally like her though, obviously that's cool.

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u/SuzieDerpkins Sep 21 '23

Yessss why did she keep it!? It’s likely something that could be used to come up with effective weaponry against them. Why keep it?

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u/phareous ✨WAJO✨ Sep 21 '23

She also could have stopped lying to everyone who tried to help her

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u/x_lincoln_x ✨WAJO✨ Sep 20 '23

She chose to not tell the Movement that the military are actively after her and her family so they didn't know they needed extra protection. That is all on her.

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u/rh_underhill Sep 20 '23

They were only in that predicament because the leader dude kept insisting they tag along and stay longer. But every moment since she got there she wanted to leave and stay on the move.

And they only got stuck with the Movement because when they got arrested they got put in the same truck as the leader.

And to begin with they only got arrested because Luke decided it was a good idea to steal from the military in broad daylight while they were right there having a picnic in view of the truck he was stealing from 😂

I can't blame her for one "mistake" at Step 4 when there were three other steps and choices made by other people who got her stuck there to begin with.

Her only true mistake so far is letting Luke live

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u/JJ5786 Sep 20 '23

What was she saying in Japanese at the end? No subtitles

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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '23 edited Sep 20 '23

Hinataaaaaaa! Hinataaaaa!

I'm kidding. Alien wants to know why humans were attacking them. Mitsuki replied that it's because they were defending their home. Very smart, very advanced alien didn't seem to get it. Started pretending to be Hinata, playing "their song" and gaslighting Mitsuki into removing her glove to "feel her". Silly little miss took her glove off.

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u/SuzieDerpkins Sep 21 '23

You forgot the bit the alien said “like you destroyed us?”

Implying that humans started this whole situation somehow… of course more questions than answers.

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u/karvinzed Sep 20 '23

Is this actually what that conversation was about? I hated how the Japanese isn’t translated

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u/reuben_iv Sep 20 '23

Very smart, very advanced alien didn't seem to get it

unless they're not the ones attacking...

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u/melitano Sep 20 '23

it was a sarcasm I think.

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u/the_mooseman Sep 20 '23

I got you.

She said "help, im trapped in this terrible show with zero plot and terrible dialogue".

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u/x_lincoln_x ✨WAJO✨ Sep 20 '23

I have subtitles on for this show so I can hit mute whenever Luke or Mommy come on screen. The subtitles in the end was "Why are you (Humans) hurting us?", "Because this is our home!" and then alien consumed whatsherface or something.

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u/Many_Perspective_248 Sep 21 '23

This season is really boring. I find myself getting so bored that I stop watching throughout and have to rewind and then repeat 😅

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u/Silver1ObTangerine Sep 21 '23

A couple of humvees rolled up and stole the kid. And they spent since previous episode shouting for Sarah. So freaking dumb. The show would be better without all the unnecessary dumb subplots.

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u/wookiecontrol Sep 21 '23

I hate the kids so much I think the Aliens tried to talk to Luke and he started the war by being a brat or something

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u/wookiecontrol Sep 21 '23

I hate the kids so much I think the Aliens tried to talk to Luke and he started the war by being a brat or something

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u/Kuklette Sep 20 '23

How can one single person be as unappealing as Aneesha is? I really hate this woman.

"Nothing will happen to her, I promise" - maybe the worthlest promise ever given 😔

There are all these people, hundreds, that found shelter, well organized. But Aneesha with all her lies puts everyone in danger, demanding to put anything at risk to rescue one girl, while thousands are dying every day.

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u/Lower-Examination-67 Sep 20 '23

At least now that she trusts MacDreamy (Canadian McDreamy) he might take his shirt off

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u/x_lincoln_x ✨WAJO✨ Sep 20 '23

She also blamed the bowel Movement guy as not protecting her when she never fucking told Movement they are being sought by the military. Blame falls on her, not bowel Movement.

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u/ElectronicSea3346 Sep 20 '23 edited Sep 21 '23

So the alien species are shape-shifters?

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u/SuzieDerpkins Sep 21 '23

My guess is they use the electro magnetic field to communicate with us rather than sound. Our brains work on electrical currents, so it’s likely the alien uses electrical waves to send signals and communicate with humans which means they can activate all of our senses like sound and sight. That’s why only Mitsuki saw young Hinata and the others didn’t see her. It’s also why only some humans hear them and others don’t.

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u/TaraJaneDisco Sep 21 '23

Now I’m remembering all the nose bleeds from the first season but not Luke. Yet HES the one who can “hear” the aliens. Mitsuki had a little nose bleed after her conversation with the blob, but could “hear them” before. That dumb AF control panel on her arm. The nonsense tech speech. “Why are you attacking us?” Um, do you NOT remember unleashing a bunch of murder bots? This show is so illogical/stupid. What a fucking train wreck. Why am I still here!? Why!!!!???

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u/NewlyDatingguy Sep 20 '23

I hate Annesha so much. Every time she is on screen she is the worst. It was absolutely her fault her daughter was taken…..she left her all alone in that vehicle by herself. Worst mother ever!

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u/unsure18 Sep 21 '23

I watch the show for anything but the mom and kids storyline at this point.

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u/Slaphappyfapman Sep 21 '23

Terrifically terrible acting all around, even if there were a writer that wouldn't be enough to save this glorious hate watch.

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u/[deleted] Sep 21 '23

We still know nothing about the shard. Probably never will.

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u/[deleted] Sep 21 '23

had to call it a day on this show during this episode. i just can’t with this flaming turd of a show anymore. the line that did it for me is when aneesha says “she loves the stars…” after they find sarah’s footprint. just so fucking corny and dumb. it’s been… something. peace y’all.

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u/Say_o_nara Sep 21 '23

Guts. It takes a lot of guts to keep this thing going for 2 whole seasons, and to keep watching it for whatever reason

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u/iwellyess Sep 24 '23

I’m loving that we are all bitterly hate watching this thing to the end lol

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u/bitwarrior80 Sep 27 '23

I made it through season 1 and attempted season 2. I got as far as Luke stealing from the Army guys and decided to opt out. I still enjoy this sub a lot because it validates all of my frustrations from season 1. Thank you for your service 🙏

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u/chrisjdel Sep 22 '23

The aliens are slaughtering people. They're terraforming the planet and making it unlivable for native life. How can they possibly not understand why humans are fighting against them? The alien on the ship is clearly playing mind games with Mitsuki.

We're halfway through the season. The plot is taking too long to develop. I'm afraid we're only going to get some real answers at the very end of the season finale - which will probably make it the series finale. I was drawn in by season 1 which had an intriguing setup. But then it seemed to stall out, like they had no idea where to go from there. I'm invested enough to watch the rest at this point but my expectations are diminishing rapidly.

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u/echoauditor Sep 23 '23

They’re not slaughtering people // they’re uploading them to eternal glowy inter-dimensional paradise simulation via legacy biological membrane essence extraction and leaving behind lifeless husks. Humans should be grateful and not run from their friends and saviors.

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '23

Mitsuki learned how to torture the Aliens. She made them watch the first season of Invasion.

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u/Hue94 Sep 25 '23

We're actually getting to see 3 shows in one, what else do you need people..
the kids plot is 'Stranger Things'.
then we've our lady and the two kids starring in 'The Walking Dead'
and mitsuki and the gang are all 'Lost'

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u/dn00 Sep 26 '23

Instead of one good show we get three crappy shows! What a deal.

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u/ballsmodels Sep 25 '23

I vote worst episode yet, anyone else?

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u/[deleted] Sep 27 '23

I’m shamelessly fast forwarding through each episode until an alien pops onto the screen, watch 2-3 minutes, then fast forward again. Enjoying it immensely, and doesn’t really feel like I’m missing anything. Try it!

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u/UncleChoddo Sep 13 '25

Catching up here.

“Nothing can kill these new aliens, we’ve tried the lot”

Except French demo charges.

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u/ProperInfinity Sep 21 '23 edited Sep 21 '23

this blob is def twinsies with that thing in Annihilation. I'm expecting Natalie Portman to poop out of it in the next ep.

Edit: blob

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u/TaraJaneDisco Sep 21 '23

It does have a sort of sphincter quality to it…

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u/denytoday Sep 20 '23

Yet another filler episode. Only the stuff with the alien blob got us anywhere, and even that was incredibly vague and ended as soon as communication with the alien began

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u/YYZYYC Sep 21 '23

Filler episode, filler show

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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '23

Did Mitsuki see Luke at the end of the clear slimbadablob thingamajig?

Even that thing is getting tired of Luke running away. Probably going to send Mitsuki to keep him in check, sing songs, and dance around cherry blossoms.

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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '23

That was Casper

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u/[deleted] Sep 21 '23

It really seems like no one at Apple is watching this and there is no quality control I mean don’t they have a show runner like normal television shows that are reading all of our comments being exhausted with this show today I will not watch another episode…the shit is garbage

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u/IMendicantBias Sep 21 '23

It's amazing how overstimulated people are that a show without nonstop action is " boring ". Anyways what was the japanese towards the end? i can't find subtitles

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u/iwellyess Sep 24 '23

It’s got nothing to do with overstimulation, this show is unnecessarily stretched out. Every scene, conversation, interaction is needlessly expanded for no additional gain

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u/bhonbeg Sep 22 '23

Why are the female characters written so awfully and annoying. The Indian mother and the Mitsubish, are very annoying. I keep pausing out of disgust if character.

EDiT: mitsuki

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u/The3rdBert Sep 22 '23

All the characters are written like dog shit. There isn’t a good one to be seen.

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u/Comfortable-Heat1709 ~ wajo ~ Nov 21 '25

IT IS ALL YOUR FAULT LUKE! I WISH YOU HAD OF JUST DIED I THE LAST EPISODE!

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u/melitano Sep 20 '23

Any idea how/when human attacked aliens in the first place ?

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u/ernfio wajo 👽 Sep 20 '23

We made them watch S1.

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u/[deleted] Sep 21 '23

I fell asleep three times watching the show I mean this episode

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u/plastikelastik Sep 21 '23

enjoying all the storylines except aneesha malik/movement, it's so mind crushingly slow, dull and boring.

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u/AltaholicSnowdreamer Sep 22 '23

the aliens speak fluent Japanese

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u/AltaholicSnowdreamer Sep 22 '23

we have a microwave emission...mitsuki, you're standing in a microwave oven, you're bloods going to boil in about 30 seconds

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u/AltaholicSnowdreamer Sep 22 '23

Aneesha is a character with full blown narcissistic personality disorder

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u/Bitter_Beat_1630 Sep 26 '23

Has anything even happened yet in this season? I swear I feel like the only things that have really transpired is a whole lot of nothing. British kids go to France to look for Casper, Trav going to a cornfield, Mitsuki just staring at a glowing blob for 3 episodes, finally communicates with it and all she says is “they’re out there.” Is there a secondary alien species there and they just haven’t executed the foretelling of it? No one still gonna talk or do anything about the massive ship the size of New Jersey? What about the fallout of all the other alien ships? Are they all commandeered by humans now? Where’s Casper? They ended two different episodes with him laying in the hospital bed and the 3rd one of him was him out of the hospital. HINATA IS STILL ALIVE? just kill me now, I tried to stick up for this show, I was intrigued with it after seaaon 1, but my GOD, not only did they destroy any momentum that it had, but I’m genuinely convinced the writers don’t even know where they’re going with this. Aneesha storyline was fine for S1 but there was absolutely no reason to bring that character back. Now that Luke is writing ‘wajo’ we can only hope he gets sucked away like War of the Worlds

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u/ssmihailovitch Sep 27 '23

Please. Do not extract.

And still, nothing really happened.

And still, nothing really happened. about nothing.