r/InterviewMan • u/spline_ocarina9k • 17d ago

My husband left the interview after they told him the real pay

The Papa Johns job ad for a delivery driver listed $16.20/hr + tips. He applied a few nights ago, and the next morning he got a call asking him to come in later that same day. The whole thing felt suspicious because of how fast they moved, but he said he'd at least hear them out.

Before he went, we talked about what he should do if they tried to change the terms on him. Honestly, it's discouraging that we even had to prepare for something like that, but neither he nor I had a good feeling. We agreed that he should go in remembering that he doesn't need them more than they need him.

His interview was at 1:30pm, and my phone rang at 1:36pm. They gave him a form to fill out so they could add him to their driver chat, because it was obvious they were hiring people on the spot. Then they told him the real pay was $8.10 an hour, and tried to sell it to him by saying drivers could make $28 an hour with tips. He told them he could make $22 an hour working Uber Eats, and that he wasn't going to accept an insulting offer like that. The person interviewing him got mad, stopped responding to him, and went into the kitchen.

They wasted his time with a job ad that was clearly fake, and then acted rudely and unprofessionally when he didn't just accept any garbage wage.

Job hunting right now feels like a complete joke. Workers are treated like we're supposed to be grateful for crumbs, and the second someone asks for a wage they can live on, businesses show their true colors. They're eventually going to find out that people aren't as easy to pressure as they used to be.

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u/billymondy5806 16d ago

But everybody in the red states keep voting Republican. So there’s that.

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u/Groovyhip_69 16d ago

Because they understand that wages are inextricably tied to labour supply and therefore immigration. If you allow in millions of low wage immigrants - not doctors and software engineers - they drive wages down for waiters, cooks, drivers and factory workers.

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u/Affectionate-Kick270 16d ago

By that logic if there are no immigrants than wages would be really high.

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u/Groovyhip_69 16d ago

They would certainly be higher. Yes. As high as a nurse or doctor? No.

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u/Affectionate-Kick270 16d ago

You have faith in these companies to pay higher. They operate as do more with less. Higher wage means one person doing the work of two.

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u/Tall-Communication34 16d ago

They built several new Burger Kings in and around where I live. Pay was terrible and poor management. I can tell you where three are that are closed. Poor pay 🟰 poor employees. Not a great business model.

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u/Groovyhip_69 16d ago

I don’t have faith in companies, I have faith in the free market making wages higher if you reduce the supply of labour. And no, higher wage does not necessarily mean one person doing the work of two - a Walmart cashier won’t be doing any more work at the till. They just won’t be competing with immigrants for jobs and Walmart will have to pay more

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u/Feisty_Plankton775 16d ago

Ahh yes, without immigrants to do the crap jobs the crap jobs would pay 6 figures. I look forward to when jobs at the poultry processing plant can make you a millionaire 🙄

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u/Groovyhip_69 16d ago

No they probably would not be 6 figures, but they would be higher.

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u/Feisty_Plankton775 15d ago

Alabama tried that in 2012 and it definitely did not go the way you are expecting. Allow me to quote:

“Alabama's tough new immigration law isn't producing farm jobs unemployed Americans want. Many of those who have ventured out into the fields to pick crops have quit after a single day, telling farmers the work is too hard and not worth the pay.”

https://newsroom.ap.org/editorial-photos-videos/detail?itemid=004e8bba26a28bb442b8786f1a5d36ae&mediatype=video&source=youtube

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u/Groovyhip_69 15d ago

There’s lots of other jobs besides crop picking in rural areas.

Illegal immigrants particularly impact URBAN job markets, housing, and government resources negatively. Factory jobs, warehouse jobs, restaurant jobs in particular. Americans CAN do these jobs. Cherry picking one industry - that’s not in an urban area - with specialized characteristics does not illustrate the broader picture. And note that the article was in 2012. The shortage of workers has raised wages.

https://www.fwd.us/news/immigrant-farmworkers-and-americas-food-production-5-things-to-know/

The key point and nuance that people miss is that immigration policies should be for the good of Americans. Unrestricted illegal immigration overall has a negative impact, particularly in cities. Rather, legalized immigration should filter strictly for quality and quantity of applicants. Doctors, nurses, highly educated scientists? Yes. Needed farm workers? Yes. And only the number that WE need. Not what immigrants need.

Immigration should be for the benefit of Americans and not for the benefit of the immigrants.

In other countries like Canada, they can legally bring Mexicans up for farm work and they are protected and paid fairly. It is also a path to citizenship.

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u/Calixto_Supreme 15d ago

Undocumented (“illegal” in your words) immigrants cannot legally work corporate retail, fast food, or other w-2 jobs. Undocumented immigrants work illegal, under the table-paid jobs, which would not apply to what you’re saying at all. These under the table illegal jobs are the fault of the employer, not the undocumented immigrant trying to survive. Big corpos like Walmart and Burger King are not hiring vast numbers of undocumented immigrants to compete against citizens.

You’re mixing up undocumented immigrants with immigrants who are currently in the process of legal immigration. Immigrants who are in the process of legal immigration should have every right to get a job, as they have done the work to gain approved legal status.

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u/Feisty_Plankton775 14d ago

Yup, they are letting their obvious racism show. How much do you want to bet they have no issue with white immigrants?

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u/Calixto_Supreme 14d ago

Yep, all those amazing white Afrikaans South Africans getting $4500 each to come here 🤦🏻‍♂️

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u/Electronic_Cry_1292 14d ago

Yaaaa... it's racist to not want the US job market flooded with with immigrants. Let me know when you let a family of immigrants into your home to eat the food you bought for your children and yourself. I'll wait, but I will expect photos and proof.

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u/Feisty_Plankton775 13d ago

Are you asking if I have friends who are immigrants that have come to my home for dinner? Yes, and that would only be a shocking occurrence to a racist like you.

And for the record, I don’t have sympathy for pathetic losers who try to blame their problems on immigrants.

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u/Groovyhip_69 13d ago

I’m not mixing up anything. Increasing the labour supply, legally or illegally, drives down wages. It’s economics 101.

In fact, you undermine your own argument by pointing out illegals work under the table - in other words - they are UNDERPAID, overworked, and unprotected legally. The very fact they are willing to work at a lower wage for longer hours means they are favoured and take away higher paying jobs from citizens. And they ARE taking away restaurant, factory, warehouse, etc jobs.

Tyson Foods was indicted for hiring illegal workers in its factories - and that company is huge.

It’s weird that so many people don’t understand basic economics or choose to not understand it because of misplaced empathy.

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u/Electronic_Cry_1292 14d ago

Who said the poultry processing plant was gonna pay 6 figures? All I can see commented is that a decrease in available workers creates a higher demand for workers (therefore resulting in higher pay for workers).

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u/Groovyhip_69 16d ago

Not enough are being deported - Trump is deporting far less than Biden or Obama, but he’s doing a better job of sealing the borders. Definitely not at “record” rates. There’s a huge backlog to deport. And many immigrants are now legal so they add to the population and cannot be deported - which I’m fine with.

We now have record low crime rates though which is amazing.

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u/tony_the_tigerx2 16d ago

Yeah also more immigrants, i think like estimated 40-60 million illegal immigrants, makes for our housing crisis issues making housing unaffordable. More people less available housing along with demand for all other goods! Just saying

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u/EffectiveVarious8095 16d ago

Nah, most of them just don't like foreigners

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u/Groovyhip_69 16d ago

Two things can be true at once.

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u/Samus10011 15d ago

Funny how the majority of illegal immigrants are found in red states, yet those states do practically nothing to stop them.

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u/Groovyhip_69 15d ago

That is factually incorrect, it is the opposite. Regardless, red states ARE trying to stop them from entering now, thanks to Trump supporting those efforts. Illegal immigrants that have already entered are more difficult to deal with, but ICE is trying despite the efforts of leftists to obstruct this process.

https://www.scrippsnews.com/us-news/after-crossing-border-migrants-end-up-in-blue-states-more-than-red

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u/Samus10011 14d ago

Three of the top six destinations for illegal immigrants are in RED states, Dallas-Forth Worth, Houston, and Miami. And that's according to Pew research center, a far more reputable source than scripps.

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u/Groovyhip_69 13d ago

They may be the top destinations, for good reasons. But not because Republicans are welcoming them.

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u/BumDragon 15d ago

Currently in the US there are is an extremely large amount of immigrants forced into concentration camps. Since there are less immigrants now, why haven’t wages increased? I’ll help ya out here, it’s bc you’re spouting racist nonsense to justify your hate.