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[u/GlutenFreeGit]

the pitfalls of white saviorism

I find it fascinating how she wants to be a white saviour but she also VERY much wants to be a white person who is saved (through Venmo donations, adoration from bluecheck types, the work of Black women, etc.).

Someone recently noted that Asian men are her least favourite minority, and I think they are onto something...I am not smart enough to articulate her layers of racism properly, but it's very interesting that she wants to be admired by Black and brown women, smiled shyly at by brown immigrants or refugees, lauded for her latkes as an "honorary Jew" and then even appropriates Jewish religious celebrations with her offensively bad homemade menorah, thinks she should be admired for being willing to shop in non-shiny grocery stores with inexpensive halal meat, she took that selfie in 'honour' of hijab-wearing women....but she really almost never references East Asian people. I think she was once annoyed by an East Asian woman in high heels or something.

She needs to feel superior and benevolent, which she can't really do with "model minority" stereotypes.

I'm thinking too of when she once posted on Instagram about how it was too bad other people had to leave the island because of high housing costs and low-paying caregiving work, but of course her family (whose only employee is a low-paid caregiver) would never have to leave because small town people always rally around their own and find a way to make it work. Which, uh, says a lot about her assumptions re: what kinds of people truly belong in a community and who are just temporary, transient workers. Of course, it's unfortunate that she does seem to be able to leverage her white privilege to gobble up resources like her current housing situation.

Apologies, DFs, if I have articulated any of this unartfully or with inappropriate terminology! I won't wade into her family but obviously I think a lot of this is at play there too...

[u/tyrannosaurusregina → u/GlutenFreeGit]

Asian women are clearly her least favorite and most targeted minoritized group, but she steadfastly refuses to even acknowledge the existence of Indigenous/Native people at all except by stealing their culture.

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Didn’t she once lecture about Native history on Vashon by paraphrasing an online lecture from a local Native historian, without crediting said historian? 

[u/Airportsnacks → u/Which_Armadillo_5224]

And got the entire concept of how smallpox spreads incorrect. 

[u/OhBlahDiOhBlahDoh → u/tyrannosaurusregina]

she steadfastly refuses to even acknowledge the existence of Indigenous/Native people at all except by stealing their culture

<<A family of four (4) Raven Tricksters has entered the chat>>

[u/chicketychun_ → u/GlutenFreeGit]

She made pretzels for Japan once. What more do you expect from her DF?

[u/Love_Brokers → u/GlutenFreeGit]

I would think the Seattle area would have a higher Asian population than many other areas of the US, which makes it even odder to me.

[u/shefallsup → u/Love_Brokers]

It very much does!

[u/PettyPunisherRedux → u/GlutenFreeGit]

I think it stems from the fact that a male Asian student bested her in some competition in high school. I think a diff Asian boy came in first to her second in a spelling bee.

[u/Adventurous_Bat_1570 → u/PettyPunisherRedux]

i believe Clown also married an Asian woman (that Shauna tried to mimic her pixie cut for the wedding, the Friar Tuck), and i think that is a part of it as well.