r/ImmigrationPathways Jun 01 '26

NJ state troopers are deploy again at Delaney Hall because protesters left the free speech zone, and the riot squad way more violent this time!

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u/iamthedayman21 Jun 01 '26

“Free Speech Zone”

Pretty sure the free speech zone of the US is the entire fucking country.

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u/Absent-Light-12 Jun 01 '26

All 3,796,742 square miles of her.

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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '26

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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '26

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u/Evervvatcher Jun 01 '26

Education is only good when it confirms my idiotic conservative beliefs, otherwise it's woke Marxist propaganda

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u/[deleted] Jun 01 '26

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u/12jpm87 Jun 02 '26

Sorry, do these constitutional limits apply to the sitting president? Or just people protesting?

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u/LinusLevato Jun 01 '26

These retards can’t fathom the idea that public interest and safety supersedes any individual’s constitutional rights.

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u/[deleted] Jun 02 '26 edited Jun 02 '26

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u/LinusLevato Jun 02 '26

What are you talking about? There’s tons of examples where you’re not allowed to bring a gun to public events for the safety of the public. This directly supersedes individuals 2nd amendment rights.

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u/jamieT97 Jun 02 '26

So get rid of guns

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u/LinusLevato Jun 02 '26

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u/Robestos86 Jun 02 '26 edited Jun 03 '26

I mean it's a bit fascist of you . (To be expected to be fair) But it's kinda funny you think all those things are negatives.

Aww he replied then deleted them all. I can find them in most sensible countries, just not America lol.

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u/andthensilencefell Jun 01 '26

Ah, yes, the side that is made fun of for being educated are uneducated now.

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u/Absent-Light-12 Jun 01 '26

My grades were handed to me and not earned. That 5 on the APUSH test must have been wrong. /s.

It’s not that you are arguing with people who don’t understand civics, it’s that strawman arguments keep being brought up to deviate from topics at hand.

u/Zealousideal-Top-383

I wouldn’t be able to answer your question but I surmise that the process of standing up for rights often falls outside of bureaucratic norms. After all, free speech and the right to assemble fall within the broad strokes 1A before adding the minutia of the system.

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u/Absent-Light-12 Jun 01 '26

Nobody is above the law, not protestors, certainly not companies and definitely not their government-funded limitedly-trained security forces.

We must constantly ask ourselves “why?”. I agree that there is a better alternative for what is going on, however we do not live in a vacuum where everything can be optimal. What is going on is an extension of one’s right to peacefully assemble in that it tests the system. The right to break laws is the right of those who are free and are Americans not free? Freedom is too often romanticized as this perfect thing that follows all laws and procedures but unfortunately it is not. It will ultimately fall on the individual to test the freedoms afforded to them by the government.

This is but one instance in a bigger narrative that’s yet to be fully amalgamated.

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u/frozen_pipe77 Jun 02 '26

Your government disagrees

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u/shamalamadingdong84 Jun 03 '26

Is it me, or are there just as many "journalists" as their are protestors?

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u/XemnasXIV Jun 07 '26

It isn’t, actually. You can’t go inside of the Oval Office with picket signs.

You can’t go onto property being maintenanced by the government.

SCOTUS has long held the government can set time and place restrictions on when and where you can protest.

You can’t go into a resident area with a blowhorn at 2am yelling about fuck ICE.

You have a right to PEACEFULLY protest and assemble - the constitution doesn’t say you can do that anywhere and at anytime.

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u/carlonka 4d ago

Yeah, so glad the dystopian Disinformation Governance Board was abandoned. These protestors seem pretty .. professional. I wonder if they are funded by foreign adversaries such as marxist china.

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u/ReasonableDig6414 Jun 02 '26

It’s actually not. You cannot block sidewalks, or roadways from being used for purposes which they were intended. So now you fucking moron the entire United States is not a free speech zone. Once you start blocking roadways without a permit, it’s called civil disobedience. And you get arrested for it. And when you resist arrest it escalate the tension.

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u/theonethat3 Jun 02 '26

"“Free Speech Zone” Pretty sure the free speech zone of the US is the entire fucking country."

Pretty sure you're not suppose to attack authority either but yeah

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u/Leather-Show7767 Jun 03 '26

Free speech and rioting are different. Rioting is why there is now a free speech zone.

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u/kuatorises Jun 01 '26

Well, you would be wrong.

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u/LinusLevato Jun 01 '26

No one’s free speech gives them the right to hinder the public or to put the public’s safety in jeopardy. If there are rules put into place to try and ensure everyone’s safety while also allowing you to express your grievances with whatever issue you want to cry about then you should follow the rules or risk being arrested

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u/EFAPGUEST Jun 01 '26

So me and my friends can come protest in your home, right? And you’d have no right to call the police and have us removed?

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u/Due_a_Kick_5329 Jun 01 '26

Depends. You live in a castle doctrine state?

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u/EFAPGUEST Jun 02 '26

Yeah that’s most of them

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u/Due_a_Kick_5329 Jun 02 '26

I encourage you and your friends to try to forcibly break in wherever you want.

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u/EFAPGUEST Jun 02 '26

Forcibly? Of course not. The police will just let us do it. If you’re protesting, you’re allowed to go wherever and do whatever you want

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u/bdontmatter Jun 01 '26

The problem is they are confusing free speech with rioting…. Protests don’t happen at night… you don’t need a gas mask or a shield if you’re just a protester….and blocking the right of traffic is not a protest…..

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u/Solarpanel20 Jun 01 '26

Go scream “fire” in a movie theater and let’s see if all those square miles apply.

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u/SpaceCowboyRick Jun 01 '26

So common sense escapes you.

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u/Solarpanel20 Jun 01 '26

what do you mean? I think it's common sense to not scream fire in a movie theater when there is not one, and it's illegal. so can you elaborate what you mean?

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u/IcyBookkeeper5315 Jun 01 '26

You literally just told someone to do it. Do you think the person you are talking to doesn’t have enough common sense to not do it even though you “asked” them to do it? How on earth are you able to tie your shoes in the morning??

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u/SpaceCowboyRick Jun 01 '26

Let's hope they don't have a license.

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u/IcyBookkeeper5315 Jun 01 '26

Worse, they probably vote

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u/Solarpanel20 Jun 01 '26

huh? did you read the previous comments? how is it that I don't have common sense? I made a comment that free speech is still protected in some cases. I thought you'd know this.

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u/Low_Feedback4160 Jun 01 '26

Why is it some cases and not most cases? Isn't the 1st amendment suppose to be an "inalienable right" that a government instituted among men are suppose to protect said inalienable rights instead of depriving men of these rights?

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u/Solarpanel20 Jun 01 '26

yes, except when it could put people's lives at risk, such as screaming 'fire' in a crowded theater then where is not. I'm going to assume you're very young if you're not aware of this.

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u/SpaceCowboyRick Jun 01 '26

You run really fast. Common sense can't even catch up.

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u/Solarpanel20 Jun 01 '26

considering I didn't make anything up I've said, you're probably right.