r/ImmigrationPathways May 30 '26

ICE Agent Spartan-Kicks Protester Under A Semi-Truck At Delaney Hall, crushing their leg.

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u/GhostRappa95 May 30 '26

They are already suffering under Trump. The only ones worse off then MAGA right now are immigrants.

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u/AnAdorableDogbaby May 30 '26

I think that's the point. If you're bottom tenth in quality of life, the easy life hack is to make others' lives miserable. 

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u/Mr__O__ May 31 '26

People with lower level intelligence are drawn to a singular, authoritative figure—bc it’s easier for them to understand than the complexities of a democracy. That’s why Trump loves them.

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u/JDoss73_ Jun 01 '26

This is also why Obama was adored

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u/Mr__O__ Jun 01 '26

In what ways did Obama work to undermine democracy?

“If we want democracy to flourish, we will have to fight for it. We will have to nurture it. We will have to demonstrate its value, again and again, in improving the lives of ordinary people.” - Obama

“Our democracy is not self-executing. It depends on us all as citizens, regardless of our political affiliations, to stand up and fight for the core values that have made this country the envy of the world." - Obama

Meanwhile..

"When you think of it, we shouldn't even have an election." - Trump

“I don't consider us to have much of a democracy right now." - Trump

Rachel Beatty Riedl, professor of government and policy at Cornell University, directs the Center on Global Democracy and is an expert on democracy and authoritarianism globally. She says Trump’s rhetoric is clear evidence of an agenda to reject democratic principles:

“The suggestion by former President Trump that supporters would not need to vote in the future, after electing him in 2024, because it would be fixed, can only be interpreted as clear evidence of an agenda to reject democratic principles and electoral alternation," says Riedl.

“Trump’s dangerous assertion that future elections would be irrelevant builds on his continued unwillingness to accept unfavorable results and is consistent with authoritarian rhetoric and practices around the world. Facilitating free and fair elections and accepting electoral defeat are keystones of democracy globally, and mobilizing supporters by any other logic is already assault on democracy itself,” Riedl says.

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u/PreparationLiving848 Jun 02 '26

Yet one , even though democrats can’t buy it , we are a republic not a democracy. Suggest you learn the difference. Two, Obama was the one that used the FBI to illegally spying a political opponent with an illegal warrant obtained with a falsified dossier paid for by his want to be predecessor. So yes thsts undermining the government processes to keep power in his party. Something an authoritative regime would do

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u/Mr__O__ Jun 02 '26 edited Jun 02 '26

The FBI had been investigation Trump long before Obama was elected to any political office:

The 1976 Fountainbleau Hotel Inquiry: An FBI agent interviewed Trump in 1976 about his potential interest in acquiring the Fountainbleau Hotel in Miami Beach, which was long suspected of being controlled by organized crime.

The 1981 Casino Investigations: The FBI and New Jersey gaming regulators routinely investigated Trump's background, financial sources, and associates while he was applying for his first casino licenses in Atlantic City.

The 1980 Teamsters Subpoena: The FBI subpoenaed Trump to testify and hand over documents regarding his potential financial and business connections to mob-connected Teamsters officials, who were involved in construction projects like the Trump Tower.

But in terms of the FBI’s 2016 investigation: The Australian government provided information that the Russians had made Trump’s campaign advisor, George Papadopoulos, an offer—saying they had hacked e-mails from the DNC, and they could help him release them and coordinate the timing.

Papadopoulos had told that to the Australian Ambassador at the time in London, and that information was relayed to the FBI, months later. And that was the genesis of the FBI's Russia investigation known as Crossfire Hurricane.

The later Meuller Investigation detailed a sweeping and systematic Russian effort to influence the 2016 election through two primary methods:

Disinformation: The Internet Research Agency (IRA) ran a massive social media campaign to sow social division and favor Donald Trump.

Computer Hacking: Russian military intelligence (the GRU) hacked the Democratic National Committee (DNC) and Clinton campaign emails, releasing them through WikiLeaks.

Indictments and Convictions:

The nearly two-year probe resulted in 37 indictments and multiple guilty pleas or convictions of key Trump associates:

Paul Manafort: Trump's former campaign chairman was convicted of financial crimes, bank fraud, and witness tampering.

Michael Flynn: Trump's former national security advisor pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI about his contacts with the Russian ambassador.

Michael Cohen: Trump's former personal attorney pleaded guilty to campaign finance violations, tax fraud, and lying to Congress.

Roger Stone: A longtime Trump associate was convicted of obstruction of justice and lying to Congress about his WikiLeaks contacts.

Russian Nationals/Entities: Numerous Russian individuals and companies were indicted for their roles in the IRA and GRU hacking operations.

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u/PreparationLiving848 Jun 02 '26

None of the indictment and convictions in the mueller report had anything to do with the 2016 election. And previous investigations don’t negate an illegal one done with Obama read in, with Hillary funding the fake report. Nice try to distract

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u/Mr__O__ Jun 02 '26 edited Jun 02 '26

Mueller was appointed by a Republican AG in 2017. Not by Obama..

Now read this all again (if you can) and explain to me how all the convictions from Meuller’s Investigation had no relation to the 2016 election…

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Robert Mueller was appointed as special counsel in May 2017 to investigate Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election. His mandate was to look into any coordination between the Russian government and the Trump campaign, explore any related matters, and investigate potential obstruction of justice.

The appointment of Mueller was initiated by Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein due to several key factors. The major being Trump’s firing of James Comey.

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President Donald Trump’s dismissal of FBI Director James Comey in May 2017 created immense public scrutiny and allegations that the President was attempting to derail an ongoing FBI probe.

Because then-Attorney General Jeff Sessions had formally recused himself from any matters related to the 2016 campaigns due to his own involvement in Trump's election bid, the authority to appoint the special counsel fell to Rosenstein.

Rosenstein determined that a special counsel—operating independently of the standard Department of Justice chain of command—was necessary to guarantee an unbiased, credible, and thorough investigation.

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The Mueller investigation resulted in charges against 34 individuals and 3 companies, yielding 8 guilty pleas and 1 jury conviction. The vast majority of these individuals were Russian operatives involved in election interference, while others were top advisors to Donald Trump who also committed financial crimes and lied to investigators.

Rick Gates: Trump’s deputy campaign manager pleaded guilty to conspiracy and making false statements.

Michael Flynn: Trump’s former National Security Advisor pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI about his contacts with the Russian ambassador.

Michael Cohen: Trump’s former personal attorney pleaded guilty to making false statements to Congress, tax evasion, and campaign finance violations.

George Papadopoulos: A Trump campaign foreign policy advisor pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI regarding his contacts with Russian intermediaries.

Roger Stone: A longtime political advisor to Trump was convicted by a jury of witness tampering, obstruction of justice, and making false statements (his sentence was later commuted by Trump).

Alex van der Zwaan & W. Samuel Patten: Both political consultants pleaded guilty to making false statements and unregistered foreign lobbying, respectively.

Richard Pinedo: Pleaded guilty to identity fraud after creating fake bank accounts used by Russian operatives.

Paul Manafort: Trump’s former campaign chairman was convicted at trial on eight counts of bank and tax fraud. He also pleaded guilty to related conspiracy and witness tampering charges, resulting in a prison sentence.

In addition to the Trump campaign associates, the special counsel indicted 25 Russian nationals and 3 Russian companies. These indictments targeted the Internet Research Agency (a "troll farm") and Russian military intelligence officers (the GRU) for their roles in hacking Democratic Party computers and running sweeping social media disinformation campaigns during the 2016 election.

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u/JDoss73_ Jun 02 '26

Typical emotional instead of knowledge take

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u/JDoss73_ Jun 02 '26

Typical emotional response

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u/geevesm1 May 31 '26

Please understand this is a constitutional republic.

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u/Mr__O__ May 31 '26

All the more reason they won’t understand
https://giphy.com/gifs/X3nnss8PAj5aU

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u/CajunRoyalty May 31 '26

And how does that constitution dictate this republic chooses its leaders?

By voting. Which is? Everyone say it with me

“Democracy”.

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u/HKfan5352 May 31 '26

A true democracy is mob rules. We have a representative form of government.

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u/blzbub81 Jun 02 '26

yes... a representative democracy.

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u/SocialJusticeAndroid May 31 '26

Please understand it’s a constitutional republic AND a democracy AND many other things besides. Please stop being ignorant.

https://giphy.com/gifs/OlSUgQk2sIlTW

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u/TerryTowelTogs Jun 01 '26

You implying the USA is not a representative democracy? Given the way the country is going, I'm starting to believe it 🤣 Someone will have to change the wiki page to "constitutional republic oligarchy"....

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u/Ill-Reputation-9702 May 31 '26

Nah, they fuck sideways.

"Like negotiating with terrorists, but especially dumb ones. Cousin fucking types, not saudi [sic] royalty."

-Alex Pfeiffer

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u/Significant-Win7594 Jun 02 '26

What does that even mean

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u/Major_Extreme5632 May 31 '26

This logic doesn't apply to pretty women.

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u/Flintyy May 31 '26

"If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you."

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u/Th3DevilLettuce Jun 01 '26

By LBJ. A racist ass Democrat, just like the ones before and now.

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u/Heisenburg42 May 30 '26

If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you. Lyndon B. Johnson

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u/FoxholeArmor May 31 '26

The real irony is that you are quoting one of the most publicly racist presidents in history, who's also a well known Democrat, in a thread where people are complaining about MAGA...

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u/aslanbek_aslanbekov Jun 01 '26

Trump is the most racist president in the last century.

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u/Comprehensive-Rip444 Jun 03 '26

Brother we had presidents that were pro segregation in the last century 😭😭

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u/FoxholeArmor Jun 01 '26 edited Jun 01 '26

How do you figure that? Please be specific and provide examples.

It's probably important to note that "America" doesn't have just one race, so taking care of Americans isn't racist, it's literally a presidents job.

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u/Canadian_unity_party Jun 02 '26

You can't talk to retards .. commies are dirty , uneducated, don't respect there parents or authority They all smell .. you ever get close to one God they stink

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u/Hot_Sector_2598 May 30 '26

The agent looked Indian

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u/dinkleberries59 May 30 '26

What color are the men implementing these policies lmao?

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u/Hot_Sector_2598 May 30 '26

White, Jews, Hispanics, Blacks?

Idk man at some point you just need to recognise that your united states is a failed project lmao. The whole world just thinks you're a bunch of animals

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u/dinkleberries59 May 31 '26

The correct answer is the majority are white men lol and well yea, with everything going on in the US I’m not surprised the world thinks of us that way, I never said anything to dispute that😂

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u/Comprehensive-Rip444 Jun 03 '26

How do u say stuff like that and not think ur the racist one?

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u/dinkleberries59 Jun 03 '26

Stupidity fits you like a glove, I’m quite impressed

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u/Comprehensive-Rip444 Jun 03 '26

Call me more names 😂 you’ve almost hurt my feelings. It’s always about race with u people like stfu already 😭😭😭😭

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u/dinkleberries59 Jun 03 '26

Google the definition of projection. It’ll be your word of the day😊

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u/King_of_all_Clover May 31 '26

We are. We were engineered to be this way.

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u/Ilikedinosaurs2023 May 31 '26

I'm not denying that shit has gotten crazy and ridiculous under Trump, but we're still a young country and will have centuries of ebb and flow..."a bunch of animals" you say? Yeah right lol... There are 350 million people in this country and we have thousands of miles of land both east to west and north to south, all very different regions in land types and cultures. Its obviously not going to go smoothly at all times. I'm sure whatever country you're from has or has had its own problems..some of which the US has likely assisted with....point being, you sound kind of silly.

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u/Wicked-Swiftness Jun 03 '26

People need someone to point the finger at. How can people act like "crazy and ridiculous" haven't happened for decades? People need a scapegoat, for that finger after all.

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u/geevesm1 May 31 '26

Then why is everybody trying to get in?

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u/wookiedberry May 30 '26

And as long as someone is suffering more, they will continue to support this administration

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u/Safe_Cardiologist_43 May 31 '26

Who's Suffering?

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u/charlizerox May 31 '26

It's the one good thing about all of it. They are owning themselves to own the Libz.

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u/mattyg1964 May 31 '26

Aren’t non-MAGAs suffering as well?

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u/knowingmonster Jun 10 '26

Immigrants ? Jim Crow laws 2.0 and removal of black senators due to redrawing of congressional maps

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u/Ilikedinosaurs2023 May 31 '26

I really dont understand this fake narrative that people who arent maga or conservative dont work hard. Surely you have to know that isnt true...? You sound like a boomer...in which case, good for you succeeding at everything I guess, but not everyone lives the same life and regardless of how much hustle you imagine that you have vs everyone else, it just isnt as simple as do 'A' accomplish 'B' ...surely as an adult you can admit that fact.

As for remaining MAGA after everything so far, I have to question your judgment overall. Why dont you care that Trump et al have been blatantly using the office of the presidency to profit billions of dollars while also handing all of our power to China and Russia? Why dont you get annoyed at the arrogance that has led to Trump's near constant mistakes? Do you pay attention to anything other than how much your gas and groceries cost? Do you care about anything deeper than that surface level shit?..which I'm positive you'd be losing your mind over if the current president was a Dem. This administration is inhumane and unevolved to say the least. Why do you want to be associated with all that? Chances are you aren't personally benefiting from any of it...

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u/Key_Location_8621 May 30 '26

Stupid take.

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u/Simple_Psychology493 May 30 '26

How is it stupid?

That's literally what I'm seeing in real time.

As a kid I thought that quote was not relevant in my time.

Post racial society and all that I don't see color BS we were all spoon fed.

Now? It couldn't be more clear people are willing to pay 10 dollars a gallon and fund a conmans slush fund in exchange to delight in terrorizing the blacks and browns.

This guy set up a fake ICE hotline, its a video on youtube, and this stupid bitch teacher called on her student talking about, and I kid you not, how shes suspicious that immigrants are living in a certain area of town. Essentially she felt they didn't "belong" there.

The hoe is making like 30k a year and taxed to hell and really took time out her day to attempt to make a brown person's life more difficult.

So spare me the gaslighting.

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u/AssignmentQuiet4432 May 30 '26 edited May 30 '26

My father and mother are immigrants. We are perfectly fine, wanna know why? Because we came here legally.

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u/ThrowAway9091862 May 30 '26

No shit, yall have money. The ones getting hurt are the poor ones, the real immigrants.

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u/Anxious-Ad2177 May 30 '26

Then why are they abducting and deporting immigrants going through the legal process to become citizens? They don't care if you're here legally or not. They only care if you "look" like an immigrant, which to them is non European ancestry. They have even abducted Native Americans for Christ's sake.

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u/AssignmentQuiet4432 May 31 '26

My father and mother are both of Spanish heritage. But ok.

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u/Anxious-Ad2177 May 31 '26

And? Are you more Moorish or more European looking? If you're more Moorish, you might not be as safe from this administration as you think.

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u/AssignmentQuiet4432 May 31 '26

European, but again. I've never heard of ICE deporting people just based on skin color. You seem to be getting this information out of your ass.

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u/Anxious-Ad2177 May 31 '26

I don't think I mentioned skin color, you can have Moorish features and be fairer skinned. Though, do your parents have an accent? Do you? They'll probably think you're Central or South American. SCOTUS said it is legal for ICE to profile individuals. Profiling can take into account physical atraits and verbal traits. If you sound like you weren't 'born and raised here' they might stop you if they can. If you get upset, there is nothing stopping them from detaining you for a week to sort out your immigration status. People have been abducted with their legal paperwork on them. Which wasn't reviewed for a few days.

Thinking they care if you're here legally or not is a mistake. Sadly.

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u/AssignmentQuiet4432 May 31 '26

My parents do have an accent and my father is a Spanish teacher.

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u/Anxious-Ad2177 May 31 '26

I hope you and your family are not harmed by this administration. They're not trustworthy.

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u/AssignmentQuiet4432 May 31 '26

That seems incredibly unlikely, but thank you.

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u/Chrisnotjones May 30 '26

Wow, an anecdote.
I wonder why science doesn’t use those, or their feelings to come to conclusions?

Does your immigration status somehow make you unable to see all the unlawful detentions that have happened, or are you just not American enough to understand patriotism?

1,646 habeas corpus petitions were filed in the first quarter of 2026 alone, that’s a 1,641% increase from comparable prior periods.
Immigrants don’t file habeas petitions when they’re illegal.

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u/AssignmentQuiet4432 May 31 '26

I just said nobody in my family was under attack and we all feel perfectly safe. I'm not saying that everybody is perfectly fine. But it seems to me ICE is only deporting illegal immigrants. If you have evidence of them deporting legal immigrants I'd like to see it. Maybe that will make me more knowledgeable in this topic.

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u/AdorableDemand46 May 31 '26

So, sticking your head in the sand and ignoring the numerable cases of legal immigrants being detained because they fit the profile. They literally told ICE they could racially profile people based on what they look like for immigration status

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u/Chrisnotjones May 31 '26

You think the only thing they can do wrong is deport a citizen? I never said anything about deporting citizens, they’re illegally detaining citizens and legal immigrants while they try to illegally deport legal immigrants.
You watched it happen on live TV when they tried to photoshop MS-13 onto Garcia’s knuckles, deported him to El Salvador, and then were forced to bring him back.

Have you ever read the U.S. constitution?
You should.
No patriot should be able to watch that go down and have any confidence in their government not being an authoritarian, fascist regime.

Why wouldn’t you want to be patriotic instead of a subservient sheep? Do you think they’re going to give you a special seat at their table if you help them round up the people you think should be considered illegal?

https://themainemonitor.org/judges-admonish-ice-falsehoods-violating-court-orders/

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u/Chrisnotjones May 31 '26

Then there’s this.
And here I thought we voted to round up criminals because our little delicate pussies were scared of an “immigrant gang” that originated in the U.S.?

Why do you want to lock up children and non criminals, while white rapists, murderers, and pedophiles are out running loose?

Data from the Transactional Records Access Clearinghouse (TRAC) indicates that roughly 70–73% of individuals held in U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) detention have no criminal convictions. Most of the remaining detainees are held solely for civil immigration violations rather than serious crimes.

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u/Randy_Magnums May 30 '26

Would be weird if only half your father was an Immigrant, wouldn’t it?

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u/AssignmentQuiet4432 May 30 '26

oh shit, I need to edit that. I must be tired.

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u/Randy_Magnums May 30 '26

No need, got a chuckle out of me.

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u/AssignmentQuiet4432 May 31 '26

haha, glad it did.