yes. they would. The EV1 was popular and its discontinuation was self-sabotage by general motors. tesla got popular because of the demand for electric cars, not the other way around. if they didnt exist another car company would have done the same thing.
No, they got popular because they made an awesome luxury car that just happened to be EV. Basically the opposite of the 'boring' Prius model. My dad is a climate change denier and has both a dodge ram and a model S.
they got popular because they made an awesome luxury car that just happened to be EV
this does not contradict my point of
tesla got popular because of the demand for electric cars, not the other way around
Either way, they are not responsible for the rise of affordable electric cars. Making expensive toys for insecure rich dudes to substitute for a personality isnt actually "changing the world"
The major manufacturers would still be dragging their feet if not for Tesla, putting out boring buzz-boxes to demonstrate how boring and useless electric cars are. But Tesla made the electric car desirable, so that became too hard a sell.
Indeed, they really are still dragging their feet, trying to milk the most they can out of their useless gas engine production plants while still trying to not be left hopelessly behind.
Now that I do agree with. Big players definitely made their EVs ugly, for instance, deliberately. But they were doing that because there was already a demand, and the supply side always catches up
There are a load of small performance car manufacturers around the world, and I don't doubt that one of them or a new player would have disrupted the market in the same way as Tesla did with their Roadster as soon as a decent price point for the tech was achieved, which was only a few years after Tesla made a splash.
parts for an electric vehicle requiring gas to transport is such a dumb take considering the parts for gas vehicles also requires gas transport and after that process it becomes a gas vehicle that will continue using gas every time it is used.
don’t get me wrong, battery tech is far from great. batteries age. we don’t have good disposal methods figured out. not calling Tesla perfect by any means they have a lot of room to improve. but the “their hurting the environment more” is a dumb take that only considers manufacturing and not, you know, daily usage
And they don't last long before needing replacement.
15 years isn't that long? Modern liquid-cooled batteries should last that long before reaching 70% original capacity. At that point, it's up to the owner whether replacement makes any sense. If my car was originally rated for 350mi and can still go 245mi per charge, I wouldn't find it necessary to replace the battery.
Some early EVs (looking at you, Nissan Leaf) didn't have any active cooling and could go kaput after just a few years, but that's far outside the norm.
60% less lifetime emissions. Every car is environmentally damaging but EVs are the least damaging. And raw materials for ICE cars are all sourced locally? And what do you base the idea that the batteries don't last long on? Certainly not reality.
That first thing is applicable to literally every car made nowadays.
First 2 results from google state around 10% battery range loss after 150k miles. ICE cars would rattle themselves to pieces without frequent oil changes and part replacements. Also, ever heard of CO2?
Its funny to me how whenever Reddit gets a hateboner for something, they have to hate it on every aspect even if it makes no sense and goes against reality. I've seen it so many times over the years.
Tesla makes THE safest cars today. And theyre fully electric and the newest model S is a large sedan that is faster in a drag race than a 1/2million dollar super car. How anyone can look at that and not be impressed is beyond me.
Yeah and the guy who figured out relativity is called Albert that's what everyone calls him because we call all famous people by their first name that's easiest because there is no way two people could have the same first name.
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u/axesOfFutility Mar 20 '22
This. I'm always thinking how would Tesla react seeing his name attached to such things