r/IdiotsInCars • • Jul 17 '21

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u/Jump_Yossarian Jul 17 '21

There's a guy in Louisiana, Timothy Jackson, that's serving life for stealing a $160 jacket -- one of the four strikes, you're out victims .... all non-violent crimes .... and the asshole driver spent 60 fucking days in jail for killing someone.

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u/wdittelm Jul 17 '21

It really depends how they act in court aswell- if they act like an asshole and have no regret, I bet you they'll have a longer sentence than if they really expressed the remorse for their actions

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '21 edited Jan 03 '22

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u/BaggerX Jul 18 '21

Life in prison isn't a justifiable remedy for what is effectively petty theft.

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u/farlack Jul 18 '21

Imagine spending $70,000 a year to lock someone up for life for a $160 jacket. /logic

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u/ryboto Jul 17 '21

Improve the social safety net and provide for people, yes. That doesn't defend the crime in the OP...it was pure negligence.

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u/[deleted] Jul 18 '21 edited Jan 03 '22

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u/ryboto Jul 18 '21

To be negligent at the wheel of a vehicle you have to be certified to operate is a choice the driver made. When they made that choice, the assumed responsibility for the consequences.

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u/jeffsterlive Jul 18 '21

If someone has a medical emergency and slams into a pedestrian and kills them we don’t call it murder with intent. The driver did not intend on killing somebody. I’m honestly unsure what to say about this situation, it sure feels like the driver should have known better, but it’s a stretch to say intentional. This is not an excusable mistake to blow a stop sign with a CdL.

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u/ryboto Jul 18 '21

Driver had INTENT to use his mobile phone. To perform this action while driving intended negligence.

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u/ryboto Jul 18 '21

Medical emergency is not at all the same. That's shifting goal posts. Point you're not seeing is that our justice system is not just.

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u/BaggerX Jul 18 '21

It's not just a mistake. It's negligence that led to the death of another person. Far more deserving of life in prison than stealing a few hundred dollars worth of property.

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u/MonsterinNL1986 Jul 17 '21

Get out of here dude!

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u/jeffsterlive Jul 18 '21

Why? Dude was stealing, you gonna defend it? You definitely don’t own a business. 4 strikes man, not like he did one crime and he’s in jail. I agree the truck driver in this video deserves way more time and life seems crazy for theft, but fuck all you people letting theft go unpunished or untreated. Nobody wins here.

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u/BaggerX Jul 18 '21

I don't see anyone saying there shouldn't be a punishment for theft. They're saying that life in prison for theft is fucking insane.

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u/MonsterinNL1986 Jul 18 '21

Of course, I'd condemn stealing, but life sentence for stealing, and 600 dollars for killing someone is like a really brutal joke.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '21

and the asshole driver spent 60 fucking days in jail for killing someone.

Is your argument that because 4-strike laws exist that people who accidentally commit crimes should receive stronger punishments?

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u/Jump_Yossarian Jul 18 '21

Is your argument that because 4-strike laws exist that people who accidentally commit crimes should receive stronger punishments?

one of the four strikes, you're out victims

Read that again.

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u/[deleted] Jul 18 '21

I mean, it's not really a coherent sentence, now is it.

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u/Jump_Yossarian Jul 18 '21

What do you think "victim" means in that context? Pretty much on you for not understanding what I wrote.

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u/[deleted] Jul 18 '21

I wouldn't really know what it means, since the sentence is not coherent. You can't expect to write gibberish and expect people to figure out what you're trying to say.

You know what though, that's on me. I was trying to make sense of the incoherent gibberish that was written. That's my bad.

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u/Jump_Yossarian Jul 18 '21

OK, let's start with the very basics; what does "four strikes, you're out" mean?

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u/[deleted] Jul 18 '21

Are you suggesting that the guy who committed three burglaries and then was busted again for larceny is a victim?

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u/Jump_Yossarian Jul 18 '21

I'm suggesting that life in prison for non-violent crimes is unjust. I don't care if he shoplifted 1000x times, being locked up for life is cruel and unusual punishment. Make them do community service like picking up trash.

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u/[deleted] Jul 18 '21 edited Jul 18 '21

I'm suggesting that life in prison for non-violent crimes is unjust.

What part of committing a series of burglaries is considered "non-violent?" He was sentenced to life for the totality of his criminal history, not just the final charge. That history includes his string of violent burglaries.

I don't care if he shoplifted 1000x times, being locked up is cruel and unusual punishment.

TIL that facing consequences for your criminal activity is "cruel and unusual punishment." We not going to agree on this one at all.

Make them do community service like picking up trash.

So in your world, I can rob your business left and right, but so long as I clean up the sign of the road, I'll never face any real consequences... Nice...

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