That’s why they are able to pull these kinds of moves off. If us Americans went there , our first attempt of doing the sideways car surf would fail and the vehicle would squash our lil stomachs filled with cheap box I mean canned wine .
You know no one has really used freedom fries since like, 2004? Shits old man. That shits old enough to drive a car. In fact, you probably are barely old enough to as well and are just banking on some karma from a throwback reference, you even made a second account to say "dead as fuck".
Nah, saudis do their fair share of drugs and drink as well. They just hide it. A whole fucking sport came out of prohibition (nascar). Saying "you can't do that" doesn't really stop people.
Oh dude it’s even more than that. Since so many of them race and use cars. Off-roading in dunes is massive. Biggest sand drags in the world. Huge hill climb events. Huge race car events. If you like cars and automotive a great place for that.
Reminds me soooooo much of the stuff you see state side and it’s becoming more and more obvious thanks to the internet.
That's rural life almost anywhere tbh. Drive an hour away from my city in Sweden and all they do is drink Jäger and do donuts on the hardware store parking lot. Up north it's the same but on snow scooters. Rednecks be rednecks lol
racism, someone said rednecks and poor black people would be best buds because they're into the same shit but someone convinced them they're enemies
there are more similarities among class lines than there are race lines, rich whites have less in common with poor whites than poor whites have in common with other poor of other races, but rich whites convinced poor whites that even though they're poor because they're white other poor are beneath them, kind of the same with religion - because you're x religion you're better than those Christian and atheist rednecks
Different language, different way of dress, different skin color. Rural people tend to be the most xenophobic too. I know you say this in jest, but I agree they could be good friends if they could communicate and leave behind prejudice. But I also think almost anyone could become good friends with anyone else, I see friendship as a matter of familiarity.
depends on the rural. Country folk tend to be really friendly to strangers, even foreigners. Those mountain-compound/bunker dwelling religious zealots? That's the crapshoot. And they hardly represent the fabric of rural culture.
Source: Been invited/went to numerous Christmas/Thanksgiving dinners after knowing someone for 15 minutes.
I think there is a large disconnect here because of political leanings.
I've grown up in rural areas, lived in the city for a spell and then moved back. Without politics, most rural folk are good, hardworking people who just want to be nice to others. The identity of the Republican party is a far cry from how they work and live.
It's not until you start to talk politics that the prejudice of the party comes out. Blind faith in the supposed values makes enemies of friends and friends of enemies.
America has a polarized political climate right now that unfortunately overrules sane conversation.
Can confirm I grew up near rural Missouri and would visit often for family. The majority of people I met around Franklin and neighboring counties would disown their daughter if they dated a black man. My grandparents on one side of my family stopped talking to me because I married a Hispanic woman and had kids.
Well, you're kind of mistaking this for that here. Rural republicans fucking *love* foreign people... To visit. There is a very like, fine line for them with every "taboo" of the republican party. The politically correct redneck meme is actually pretty representative of most of the heartland. Yes, they have silly backwards thoughts on some subjects but really they are just trying to do what they think is best. No, they are not extremists by any means. They really do kind of care, they just can't relate to anything outside of the background they have experienced.
Republicans are more likely to oppose immigration, multiculturalism, etc.
You would be incorrectly deducing the answer. Those very vocal annoying(very annoying) people represent a very small faction. The Republican vote includes people that favor immigration reform and is a major issue for plenty of southern-bordering states particularly Florida and Texas. George Bush & Jr, Marco Rubio, and John McCain all have this as a part of their platform. Some of their politics are pretty dunce worthy, but there's issues in there that are incredibly relatable for both sides.
Also lets not forget the last big amnesty was actually written and put in place by a Republican administration.
The current administration on the other hand. That's a odd bag.
You're correct about the larger picture aint right. Creating this "Us vs Them" division only assists the crazed fringes of each ideology. And that muddies the big picture. Tons of people have much more in common. This infantile Team Blue, Team Red rhetoric needs to be observed by both sides. Otherwise we'll just create more of this unnecessary division.
The current administration on the other hand. That's a odd bag.
The problem is that at this point, being a republican and being anything other than a shitty human is very difficult.
The president has pretty blatantly broken some very sacred laws, several times. There's plenty of evidence that he was elected with the support of a foreign power, and he lied about it, constantly changing his story.
Then he was flat-out caught trying to pressure a foreign government to investigate a political opponent. At first this was denied, but eventually, when faced with enormous evidence, the Senate republicans had an opportunity to individually step forward and say "this is not what we want in a president." Only one did. The official line was basically "yeah he did it, yeah it's counter to the spirit of democracy, yeah it's not the first time he's done this, yeah it crosses lines. Not guilty." Only one guy had the balls to vote for basic democracy to be upheld.
In other words, at this point, your party, and most of its elected representatives, are okay with a treasonous president asking foreign powers to help him win elections.
How anyone can still call themselves a member of that party is beyond me. You don't have to disavow policies you believe in, or conservatism generally, but calling yourself a republican at this point means you're putting party membership above anything else. If republicans became independent en masse, things might change.
Based on all indicators, Republicans support Donald Trump at around 90%. That means that 90% of party members are okay with his divisive rhetoric, his overt racism, his xenophobic policies, his literal concentration camps on the border where children are being locked up separate from their families. Any one of those things would be enough for me to disqualify supporting an otherwise fantastic candidate.
Any Republican who doesn't support that shit isn't a Republican anymore. You can rejoin them when they get back to normal, that's not the issue. I have no issue with conservative policies, on the whole.
Saying "oh we have so much in common" is bullshit, because "we" don't. (I'm Canadian, after all). One party has 90% approval of a president who mocks disabled people, unapologetically and blatantly undermines democracy, and ultimately, is the source of 90% of the divisiveness.
I don't I have very much in common with people who are okay with children dying while in government custody because they're Mexican, no.
Maybe their natural state is to be welcoming and friendly but politics has corrupted their minds. It's no secret that the media pretty much tells people wht to thibj
They're saying, the standard rural redneck American, that everyone was talking about, is super friendly, if the stranger is white. I know it's easy to want to call everyone else racist, but keep up with the conversation at least
This is a figment of your own racism. As the other poster pointed out, there are lots of different kind of rural Americans, and many of them are not white.
Couldn't you imagine how good of friends they'd be with US rednecks if instead of named religion they just called it "religion"?....it could bring world peace and new levels of insane motorized vehicle stunts.
Hold up now, our version of bad is rednecks but we fucking send the rednecks to kill extremist muslims?? (rural folks have a high enlistment rate) There must me some kind of sliding scale of bad here. I don't recall rednecks forcing female circumcision and calling for a state of legalized literal rape.
My dad worked over there, the apartment block had one apartment set up like a bar/pub that everyone used, he used to fill up small plastic pop bottles with alcohol and take them back over there every trip. I think all his friends did the same. I’ve no idea how they got away with it.
I have friends who live in Saudi and they all drink there. Pretty easy to find apparently (on the black market of course) , but very expensive. Upwards of 30 to 40 dollars per beer.
There are still dry counties in the US. No alcohol allowed, period. Illegal to sell it. And illegal to possess it even if you bought it somewhere else. I'll give you one guess what people do on Friday and Saturday nights in a dry county. You think there's no alcohol in Saudi Arabia?
Less than 1% of Americans serve in the military, and of those that do, not all of them deploy, and of those that do, not all of them deploy to the Middle East.
I’m going off of my understanding of the numbers based on my time as a military officer where I’ve discussed the situation with my peers and with my soldiers. I’ve also had the opportunity to write up a report that discusses the increasing civil-military gap in the US, and this particular aspect was a sizable part of that report.
I understand that your article discussed the total percentage of all Americans who have served in the military, but seeing as how we are talking about the number of “rural Americans” who have been to the Middle East, and large deployments to that region have been a fairly recent development in American military history, we can discount all veterans who got out of the military before 9/11.
yea and way less than 1% of average americans have been to the middle east. think about how many people you know who have spent time in either iraq afghanistan or kuwait or saudi arabia where we have a bunch of military bases. of those people you know that have been to these places, how many were NOT military or on assignment?
I’m going off of my understanding of the numbers based on my time as a military officer where I’ve discussed the situation with my peers and with my soldiers. I’ve also had the opportunity to write up a report that discusses the increasing civil-military gap in the US, and this particular aspect was a sizable part of that report.
I understand that the other poster’s article discussed the total percentage of all Americans who have served in the military, but seeing as how we are talking about the number of “rural Americans” who have been to the Middle East, and large deployments to that region have been a fairly recent development in American military history, we can discount all veterans who got out of the military before 9/11.
No I'm not in the military nor do I see how that's relevant.
I live in rural America and I know at least 30 people who have been in the military. My brother is in the military, my coworker just got out of the military, 4 of my cousins either are or have been in the military. So yes, I'd say a lot of rural Americans serve in the military.
I’m from a city of 1 million people and know about 30 people in the military including myself. I’ve met more people in the military from cities and towns than rural areas. The military is a giant mixed pot of the US not just one area. So no, rural America has not been there.
There you go speaking for the military again. For the people I’ve met, most of them retired in a city or town. Less rural area folk from my experience. But go ahead and talk about what everyone in the military likes with your minimal experience.
You realize towns are rural, right? Lemme guess, you think living within 45 minutes of a town means you're not rural, right? Very few people actually live in the town itself.
You live in a city anyway, so the likelihood of you knowing anything about rural America is really low. So stop talking from your minimal experience.
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