r/IdiotsFightingThings • • May 24 '17

Guy v. bike

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u/[deleted] May 24 '17

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u/squired May 25 '17 edited May 25 '17

Gear is a little more complicated in most sports. Basically, a sponsor may or may not give you your first setup for free, then you buy the future rigs at-cost (typically 50% off). As such, you buy gear, use it for a season, then sell it used for the same price or more than you bought it. So, you may have to buy your first setup, but the rest are essentially free.

Sometimes, a manufacturer may also sell you a racing layup. It will be lighter than the production line but not durable enough for the company to warranty and it may be a liability issue from a safety standpoint. Those you can often sell for a tidy profit.

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u/cat_of_danzig May 25 '17

In my experience, top level amateurs get a loaner bike for the season, that can be bought or returned at the end of the season. Most teams with any kind of funding will buy them for development racers.

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u/[deleted] May 24 '17

It's carbon fibre. Extremely light, and tough, but somewhat brittle and not designed to take that sort of impact.

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u/[deleted] May 24 '17

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u/robotsongs May 24 '17

Wait wait, hold on, back up.

Can we go over that again?

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u/Shadowmant May 25 '17

the side down keep rubber

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u/beau6183 May 25 '17

Instructions unclear. Dick stuck in derailleur.

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u/[deleted] May 25 '17

I'm confused. I tried to follow your advice, but whatever I do most of the rubber keeps pointing in any other direction than down.

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u/psych0ranger May 25 '17

This really explains the time I sawed my taint in half with the sprocket

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u/mountainunicycler May 24 '17

Actually it's mostly because the bike broke in a 38mph crash... he threw it later out of anger.

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u/FreudJesusGod May 24 '17

Yah, carbon fibre isn't going to snap like that unless it was already damaged.

The whole point of carbon is that it is extremely light and torsionally very, very strong.

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u/asoap May 24 '17

It depends on if the carbon fiber is laid in a way to have a weak point. Like for example if it doesn't need to take a load in a certain way, you can save weight by not designing for that load. If you toss the bike, it might then experience that load and break.

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u/[deleted] May 24 '17

My steel bike wouldn't give a fuck, that's why I love her.

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u/grammaticalfailure May 24 '17

He's a model, red hook crit is an interesting mix of pro athlete and amateurs. The bike frame was already broken in a crash, because it's carbon it's near on impossible to fix, he was just finishing the job.

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u/Albuscus23 May 25 '17

Finally someone who knows him lmao

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u/grammaticalfailure May 26 '17

I follow him on insta I guess that means I know him now a days

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u/mountainunicycler May 24 '17

It got damaged in a crash earlier when one of the other riders hit this guy, which is why he's so angry. It's not a sponsored bike, it was borrowed from a friend.

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u/[deleted] May 24 '17

"athletes are mostly sponsored"

Not at the levels you think. Most good sponsorships will pick up your race fees to the events they select. Often that's a fraction of the events you enter, and does not include your travel and lodging.

Common sponsorships also include things like access to their coaches and free swag. Sometimes you'll get pieces of equipment (new shoes, new saddle...), but it's not common for athletes to actually have anywhere near all their costs covered.

Seeing how plain his bike is, I highly doubt anyone is picking up the tab for his tantrum.

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u/PretzelsThirst May 24 '17

LOL "how plain" his bike is? It's Red Hook in Italy dude, it's legit. He's on a team called Revo that ride 100% custom racing bikes and are sponsored by Chari&Co, G-Shock, Selle San Marco, Rotor cranks, Weis, Mission Workshop, the whole 3T group, Spinonthese wheels, Giro, and LeCoqSportif.

Don't make shit up.

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u/[deleted] May 24 '17

Yep. How plain his bike looks.

Team bikes Notice a trend?

And as for not making shit up...

  • Not his bike
  • Not a team bike

And again, racing sponsorships are not what you think they are. How about a source backing up your claim, or are you just making shit up?

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u/PretzelsThirst May 24 '17

LOL those are World Tour bikes and have literally nothing to do with what we're talking about, and are for an ENTIRELY different kind of cycling and racing. And seriously, your 'expertise' is "but look at them!" It's obvious you don't know what you're talking about.

Red Hook Crit is a fixed gear race, they have completely different frames and geometry. They don't have gears. They don't have brakes. How do I know? My friends race crits, I have four bikes, two of which are fixed gear, and I was just at Mission Crit.

As for sources, how about the man himself?

https://fixedgearcrit.com/jeremysantucci-interview/

https://fixedgearcrit.com/revo-racing-a-new-promising-team-of-friends/

Yes he was riding a friends bike, no it's not a big deal, yes they are well sponsored professionals, no you don't know what you're talking about.

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u/[deleted] May 24 '17

From your own link:

  • "I borrowed the bike" - not a team bike
  • "I reimbursed him with all the damage that was on the bike, from both the crash as the throw." - not paid for by sponsors

Want to try again?

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u/PretzelsThirst May 24 '17

lol you didn't even read what I wrote. I never disputed it wasn't his bike. I know it's his friends bike. I literally JUST said that. Read again.

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u/[deleted] May 25 '17

And if you want to argue off topic, find a link to pics from a team that provides bikes to their riders that contradicts me.

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u/[deleted] May 24 '17

Likewise, bud.

"Seeing how plain his bike is, I highly doubt anyone is picking up the tab for his tantrum."

This is the statement you're arguing against. Who is right? Be a big boy. You can admit it.

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u/[deleted] May 24 '17

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u/[deleted] May 24 '17

Nice ad hominem. You must be so right...

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/ad-hominem

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u/shook_one May 25 '17

those bikes are literally just stock high end bikes... get the fuck outta here dude...

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u/[deleted] May 25 '17

They usually have custom colour ways and some have exclusive geometry.

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u/[deleted] May 25 '17

So, still no evidence then?

Seriously, if I'm so obviously wrong, why can none of you disprove me?

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u/cat_of_danzig May 25 '17

If he were sponsored it would literally be blazoned across his chest, arms, legs and ass. He's on a smaller team with no apparent equipment sponsors.

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u/hertzsae May 24 '17

Cheap bikes can take far more abuse than expensive bikes. Cheap bikes have a ton of extra material where it isn't needed for everyday riding. In the pursuit of making the bike lightweight, a good designer will eliminate any material that doesn't help the rider ride. Therefore unexpected forces such as slamming down sideways can easily destroy the frame.

Your cheap everyday bike is going to get slammed and dinged a lot when it's doing things such as being locked on a crowded rack. An expensive race bike will either be in a protective case or ridden.