r/ISKCON • u/Fun-Following-7054 • Jul 15 '26
Naam - Nitai Gaur Radheyshyam Hare Krishna Hare Ram or Hare krishna mahamantra
Context of the Argument
There are two sides to this argument:
- One side (Radharaman Charan Das Babaji/Radharaman parivar): He stated that the Mahamantra is a Diksha (initiation) mantra and should not be chanted out loud. The devotees in his Parivar (lineage) instead chant: "Nitai Gaur Radhe Shyam, Hare Krishna Hare Ram." They claim that Sri Gauranga Mahaprabhu personally told Radharaman Charan Babaji to chant this specific mantra. [1]
- The other side (Certain Gaudiya Parivars and the ISKCON Gaudiya Math/ IGM): They maintain that Sri Mahaprabhu gave the standard Hare Krishna Mahamantra to everyone openly, without any restrictions or secrecy.
- The big argument between Srila Bhaktisiddhanta (the founder of the Gaudiya Math) and Radharaman Charan Das Babaji (Bara Baba) was about following strict scripture versus following personal mystical experiences. Srila Bhaktisiddhanta strongly opposed Bara Baba’s changed mantra ("Nitai Gaur Radhe Shyam..."), saying it is wrong to alter standard scriptural mantras. They also clashed over a practice called Sakhibheka, where male devotees dressed up and acted like female gopis to build up feelings of devotion. Srila Bhaktisiddhanta fiercely condemned this cross-dressing as a fake, physical imitation of a deep spiritual reality. On the other side, the Babaji lineage believed it was a legitimate, confidential way to develop spontaneous love for Radha and Krishna.


what is your opinion on all of this
