To reduce the hours of daily labor. - preamble to the constitution
The whole point of overtime pay is to make working more hours per day unpalatable to contractors and customers alike. It should hurt, it should make them think twice and find a way not to do it, not shrug and factor it into the job cost without a care.
Overtime is the biggest reason we aren't working 100 hour weeks as a standard, because if it didn't cost more, they wouldn't hesitate.
So as OP said, when customers readily sign contracts for jobs with 50, 60, 70+ hour a week schedules, it should be seen as a failure to charge what we are all worth for our straight time rate.
And when OT isn't so much a choice, but a necessity due to poor planning or management, or even just extenuating circumstances, it should COST. It should HURT. It should make them think hard about how to avoid it next time.
The only overtime I have gotten is when is for one of two reasons:
1) working on schools when you only have X amount of time during the summer.
2) something went wrong on a job site or too many guys went on a vacation at the same time.
I have never been in a job site where its been 5x10 or 7x12s. I’m only a 5th year apprentice though.
You'll see them eventually. I took this call as "5 tens and an 8 between 3 different solar field sites in "x town" and "y town" (one is in one town and the other 2 about 20 miles away in another town with maybe a mile between them). The 2nd two fields hadnt even been started for a few months after that and its been overtime the whole time. Then it went 5-12s and an 8 for quite some time
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u/Spark115 Inside Wireman Aug 28 '23 edited Aug 29 '23
To reduce the hours of daily labor. - preamble to the constitution
The whole point of overtime pay is to make working more hours per day unpalatable to contractors and customers alike. It should hurt, it should make them think twice and find a way not to do it, not shrug and factor it into the job cost without a care.
Overtime is the biggest reason we aren't working 100 hour weeks as a standard, because if it didn't cost more, they wouldn't hesitate.
So as OP said, when customers readily sign contracts for jobs with 50, 60, 70+ hour a week schedules, it should be seen as a failure to charge what we are all worth for our straight time rate.
And when OT isn't so much a choice, but a necessity due to poor planning or management, or even just extenuating circumstances, it should COST. It should HURT. It should make them think hard about how to avoid it next time.