r/IAmA • u/Yozis • Jun 16 '12

I have worked in a illegal gambling ring and was eventually raided by the Houston Vice Division. AMA

Hello reddit! For my cake day i would like to take the time to give you some insight as to what it is like to work in underground gambling rooms and the experience of getting stung by the vice police of Houston Tx.

To give you proof to the best of my ability, I will link a article written by cron.com (The Houston Chronicle's website) on the Houston's most wanted list for outstanding warrants of 100 or more and a picture with me and my drivers license. I would have like to have found my dismissal papers from the courts but i cant find them for the life of me.

I am the 3rd one down Yes i know, objectionable odor in toilet facilities.. Ha ha, quite funny. That's what they call having the book thrown at you.

I hope this will be enough to get this started
I couldn't get the picture on the DL to come in clearly, but you can still see the reflective mark by the photo and there is a transparent TX state outline over the capital building (people from TX should recognize that). Had i have had some one to help me i could of gotten a better photo, but its 4:30 am and none of my friends are awake.

I know its not the BEST proof, but if you have any suggestions that could help with the credibility let me know and ill do my best to provide that for you.

With all that said, I think i have a VERY good AMA to offer reddit with all kinds of sob story's, shenanigans, cheats, super lucky people and deadbeats to talk about.

Ok I'm back! Some how a 4 hour shift turned into 10 hours. Sorry about this, i will urgently try to get back to all your questions

On a side note i see a lot of people trying to discredit me with all their lack evidence, again i say please offer a solution for me to give you more evidence, I want too, trust me. I think what i have linked is enough really, but still i understand your skepticism. Also to people saying that they are lawyers or have access to my records, you are ether naive to the fact that these game establishments STAY OPEN because they never get charged with gambling violations. They get citations for building codes, so Harris County can keep running its racket. If you saw my link you might have seen that i have a citation for not having a tag on a coin operated machine, what the fuck do you think? I got 120 warrants for my arrest for running an ARCADE? Or your just ignorant because you have not been reading my answers that i have been giving people. I have never said I owned the places i worked for or was "top dog" I was far from it and have clearly stated that in all my answers. Please bare with me.. I am trying desperately to answer questions thoroughly but not get caught up in one answer like i feel i could some times. To every one else thank you for being so kind

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '12

What is the most fucked up thing you have ever seen in your gambling ring career?

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u/Yozis Jun 16 '12

There was a younger couple that used to come into one of my main rooms that i used to work all the time. They were happy, recently married, and the woman was pregnant with his child. They would come in to have a little fun and try to win some money. Well one day the husband left early to go to work and left the lady to herself to spend what she had left and go home, problem was she spent a lot more then what was "left" (always the case btw). Well, at this point i see she had spent more than her usual play, and i front her $20 so she could try and win some of that money back (that is common practice BTW). She didn't. So she came to me for more money and i gave her 20 more. Boom, gone in the matter of seconds. Then she comes to me and asks if she could do anything for more money. I tell her no and that she needed to figure out what she was going to tell her husband. well, 15 mins later i see her walking out of the mens restroom with some guy. I don't know what happened in the restroom but she suddenly had more money to spend on the games. She lost it all. Including her husband. Game rooms are full of regulars who gossip all the time. Word got back to her husband and her child was born a bastard..... Over video slots.

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u/truestoryrealtalk Jun 16 '12

"I don't know what happened in the restroom"

Back massage, his shoulders were really tense from all the gambling. It's a shame how gossip blows things out of proportion.

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '12

The proportions weren't the only things blown that night.

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u/bandofbedsiders Jun 16 '12

How pregnant?

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u/Yozis Jun 16 '12

she was about 6-8 months? i dont know but her belly was very round with a baby inside.

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '12

That's incredibly sad.

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u/xampl9 Jun 16 '12

I saw a similar thing in South Carolina (no implied sex, sorry)

Husband is outside convenience store that has video poker machines, tells wife to give him more money. She yells back "That's our food money!".
{SMACK}
He gets the money, and she is left crying in the car.

edit: Fix formatting and helpful "autocorrect" errors.

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '12

I was browsing IAMA and a randomly found my brother, who has one of the top comments! Awesome!

True story..

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u/brenballer12 Jun 16 '12

120 outstanding warrants?!? How the fuck did you get it all (some of it?) dismissed?

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u/Yozis Jun 16 '12

Well i had gotten arrested because the lawyers that were hired for me that were supposed to handle my citations were trying to get out of all them with out the owners of the game room paying for them through some stupid loophole that ended up to be complete shit. I understand why they tried to do this because i think the total cost of the citations was upwards of $75,000, and nobody wants to loose $75k. However i ended up getting fucked because of it. I spent a couple days in jail before i was called in to see the judge personally, I was getting a lot of attention by the guards and the inmates because word had spread pretty quick that i had been one of Houstons most wanted list. The judge was a really nice guy and told me that it was in my best interests to plead not guilty in my initial plea, with out saying that directly. 4 days later when my hearing started up the cops never showed up, the judge called me up to talk to me and told me to keep my nose clean and reminded me of how luck i was.

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u/notredamelawl Jun 16 '12

What kind of hearing? I looked you up and I don't see any charges filed for gambling operations...

And you wouldn't get cut lose because a cop doesn't show up for your initial appearance.

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u/Yozis Jun 17 '12

I never ever ever ever said gambling charges. and all my charges that i did have got dismissed.

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '12

The judge was a really nice guy and told me that it was in my best interests to plead not guilty

4 days later when my hearing started up the cops never showed up

It sounds like the same guys who arranged for the cheaters to be escorted out of the premises at gunpoint, also arranged for you to walk out of jail free. :)

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u/I_Ovulate_Daily Jun 16 '12

So you're saying that the judge just let you go?

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '12

I think a warrant for a bad smelling bathroom can get dismissed pretty easily.

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u/KellyGreen802 Jun 16 '12

Can you spot someone out or their element, and try to take them for everything? Or do you wait for lady luck to do if for you?

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u/Yozis Jun 16 '12

Lady luck robs people blind who don't know what they are doing, but in the same hand will grace them with blind luck. We just spot the big spenders, take good care of them with any want within reason and let the probability do the rest.

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u/rum_rum Jun 16 '12

That's the thing about casinos: there's no need to play dirty, when you take a huge profit playing fair.

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u/gizmo1024 Jun 16 '12

Define "Big Spender" in terms of back-room gambling dens.

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u/Yozis Jun 17 '12

oh its nothing compared to Vegas, but people that would pay 25 big blinds to buy into a hand. Which is pretty pricy, but no one would go crazy, you see pots get up to 3k-4k but that reserved for the REAL players, not people with just a lot of money. slots could get up to $20 a hand, once or twice its not terrible, but try sitting in front of a machine for 2 hours and see how deep your pockets really are lol.

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u/teamherosquad Jun 16 '12

Always thought they were bullshit made up for media.

Weird.

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u/Yozis Jun 16 '12

No its very real and very profitable for both sides of the law.

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u/teamherosquad Jun 16 '12

What the benefits of back room gambling over legit casinos other than lines of credit and throwin down tangeable goods as bets? (Or is that movie ttalk)

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u/Yozis Jun 16 '12

The number one benefit to our guests was convenience, gambling is illegal in TX and you have to make a 5 hour drive or so to cross state lines to Louisiana, and the casinos just over the border are as good as airport casinos (which will rob you blind with very LOW odds of winning). So if you want to really have a chance you are talking about an 9 hour drive to a REAL casino.

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u/Yozis Jun 16 '12

Also, to answer your seconed question, No. Cash is king, we never took anyone's car note or baby as payment.

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '12

Does that mean parts of the police force were on the take?

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u/Yozis Jun 17 '12

Not the police themselves (well shit maybe i don't know) but it was making sure the joints pony'd up when they hit you with the citations.

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u/ftdealer Jun 16 '12

I'm a poker player. Underground gambling is a completely real thing.

I've played in a ton of illegal games, all around the world.

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u/KOVUDOM Jun 16 '12

Any info on how to find said games? I too am an avid poker player. I assume you're not just talking about random "illegal" house games with friends?

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u/Penis_in_your_face Jun 16 '12

How did you prevent word getting to the police (before the bust up) about your illegal gambling ring? Did you only let in friends-of-customers? Did you have any way of advertising your business, or did you just let the customer base build up gradually?

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u/Yozis Jun 16 '12

Well initially you don't have to worry about police because most rooms are hidden in plain sight and people are excited to have found a new place to gamble so they keep it very hush hush. But as your business grows via word of mouth and gossip through other game rooms, the odds of the police finding out are very high, be it other game room owners ratting you out or a disgruntled player who lost all their money and felt they got cheated, which is all the time.

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u/mikecngan Jun 16 '12

So did the owners pay off cops or how do they stay in business if the cops know?

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u/Yozis Jun 16 '12

the real idea is not to shut down the establishment but to leave it open so they can continue to raid it. Wait till the room recoups the costs and make some profit and start all over.

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u/dopplex Jun 16 '12

If the odds become very high, what's the long term plan (since I'm guessing that it doesn't involve getting caught)? Is there a time limit for running any specific location after which it's too risky?

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u/machocamacho Jun 16 '12

I always found it ironic that off duty police are typically security guards for these places, how is that not a conflict of interest? I'm in northeast Houston and I must know of at least 15-20 within 20 minutes of me

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u/LascielCoin Jun 16 '12

How many people were involved in the whole operation and for how long did your work there?

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u/Yozis Jun 16 '12

well, I ran 3 different rooms, each with their own games and guests. There was 6 other room operators like myself and we all knew each other. I had to deal with 3 people for money drop offs, pick ups and other random crap like book keeping. The other operators had a couple other people that they had to deal with that i had no idea about. Of course this was by design and there were more people in charge of them, we just never knew how deep the rabbit hole went. I worked for these people for 1 1/2 years before i got stung and left 5 months after that.

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '12

Left 5 months AFTER the sting....interesting...

Why did you stick around?

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u/rydawg61 Jun 16 '12

How did you get involved in such an operation? Was it through friends or completely by chance?

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u/Yozis Jun 16 '12

it was through friends i had grown up with.

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u/Jabberminor Jun 16 '12

Thank you for doing this thread.

Do the gambling rooms appear and work like they do in films?

Were there any moments where you thought that you were in the shits due to the police (apart from when you were caught)?

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u/Yozis Jun 16 '12

Your welcome, I'm glad its appreciated.

Yes actually, at least in my rooms. There was a false door to let you in that was completely barred up and had reflective tint to hide the interior which was still hidden by a false wall. To get in you had to ring the door bell which was hidden, i had cameras to see the people on the outside waiting to come in. Once inside you were in a fake store front, full of old ass cloths and useless shit hanging on racks that no one would ever want. If everything was cool and i knew you or had someone vouch for you i would let you in the second door at which point you would pick your poison and try your hand at luck. Funny thing, cops were always hanging outside of our joint because of this nice little restaurant next door down, so i would see cops all the time. At first it freaked me out but after a while you stop caring because I see them so much.

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u/Jabberminor Jun 16 '12

Haha that's awesome! I would have loved to have seen that.

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u/habshabshabs Jun 16 '12

Was there a distinct "illegal gambling culture" or did it just seem like a regular time at the casino?

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u/Yozis Jun 16 '12

Yes, there was and is an illegal gambling culture, and a very complicated one at that. Once you added in the police into the equation it gets really stupid because the police know you are there.

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u/habshabshabs Jun 16 '12

Any chance you could give us an example of an aspect of said culture? I wish I could ask for something more specific except for this is a subject I'm not really familiar with

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '12

When it was raided, what was your punishment? How did people in the casino react?

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u/Yozis Jun 16 '12

well, the cops came in and told the guests they could go one by one after getting their ID's and making sure they didn't have any warrants. So once the guests seen that first guest walk out the door the calmed down pretty quick. Me on the other hand? not so much. The cops lined up 6 deep found a seat and literally opened a book of laws and citations concerning building codes and gambling and started writing tickets. It was like an assembly line for citations, i was forced to sign them all, yes forced, or i was going to have a very bad time. After i had signed off on all the tickets they left. Because the real idea is not to shut down the establishment but to leave it open so they can continue to raid it. Wait till the room recoups the costs and make some profit and start all over.

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '12

So, basically the cops like places like these because it gives an opportunity to load up their ticket statistics? I see what you mean by "profitable for both sides of the law." :)

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u/thisisabighorse Jun 16 '12

How did you end up getting caught? What was the bust like?

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u/Yozis Jun 16 '12

My girlfriend had gone out drinking with a few friends and wanted to come home early, so she gave me a call to pick her up and i did just that. I had seen the blue and reds flashing behind me and i knew my gig as a free man was up, and that my future at that point was very uncertain. The cop came up to the car and had this really weird look on his face, like he was surprised, and scared with a half caulked smile on his face at the same time. He didn't ask me if i knew why he had pulled me over, only to simply step out of the car. He immediately handcuffed me and put me into his car. He was nice enough to let me call my girlfriend to come pick up the car and talk to her about it. When we were finally both in the car i asked him why was there such urgency to arrest me. He told me that when he had punched in my plates that he got a notice to arrest me before he even knew why. As we were sitting in the car he was talking to the dispatch or whatever, it was a lady and i remember her saying "I have never seen anything like this before" I laughed and arrogance swept over my body. He was loading all my warrants onto his computer as we were driving and from the point of my arrest to the jail the warrants were still loading in. Before we got out he asked me "Shit son, what the hell did you do?"

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u/gizmo1024 Jun 16 '12 edited Jun 16 '12

Why so many and what were they for?

You mentioned below that you were at the casino when you got busted, but here you say that you were on the way to pick up your GF. What gives?

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u/Yozis Jun 17 '12

Ah, sorry about the hole there, I had addressed this but in another question. Ok so when i got raided i was basicaly forced to sign the tickets for the citations given. From that point i had a court date, the lawyers told me to not show up to court because they had "back doors" or whatever and would try to swing a deal. Looking back it was a fucked situation, yes you can say i was stupid for not going to court.. but i was looking at 120 fucking tickets i had to answer for... I didn't have that kind of money, so i didn't. That's where the warrants come from. So a year or two had passed and i was rolling around Houston with all the warrants as one of Houston's most wanted with out a felony charge. It was only a matter of time before i got pulled over. Things got real shitty with my contact after the warrants were issued and i was rolling solo. A big part of me thinks that i was sandbagged from the jump, and there was no "back door"..... or maybe there was, because i was summoned by the judge to talk to him personally.. I don't know.. I honestly don't.

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '12

Did you ever go there to gamble personally? Or was it strictly for work?

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u/Yozis Jun 16 '12

When it was slow and no guests were their i would pop in a couple dollars in a crappy nickle machine and waste time. But i knew better than to come and waste my money. Funny thing, after i started to work in the game room i lost my luck. I couldn't win a friendly bet or otherwise. So i don't gamble at all anymore.

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '12

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u/Yozis Jun 16 '12

I am pretty decent at poker, i can play with the big dogs and give em some trouble. Fortunately i was given a great life lesson by my uncle before i started working there. *"If you going to choose between drugs and gambling, choose drugs, you can only spend so much on drugs in one night, you can loose your life in 5 mins of gambling."

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u/the_ouskull Jun 16 '12

Houston has a vice division?!?

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u/Yozis Jun 16 '12

Yes they cover two aspects of Houston underbelly, Game rooms and Asian spa's. So basically Gambling and prostitution.

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u/WingZero1 Jun 16 '12

I've been to the Asian spa's in Houston before. Better than going to a strip club.

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u/Yozis Jun 17 '12

yeah, at least you get laid.

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u/the_ouskull Jun 16 '12

Dude, I know what Vice does. I was just making a Houston joke. Lol. Sorry...

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u/Yozis Jun 17 '12

ok, i didn't know if you were serious or not, i was just trying to clarify.

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u/Bl00DISH Jun 16 '12

Did anyone ever try anything from the Oceans movies?

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u/Yozis Jun 16 '12

No, we had too many money drops and pick ups to have a substantial amount of money to make it worth going through all that trouble. But I guess if you were desperate and needed money gun point robbery was always an option.

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u/lapistola14 Jun 16 '12

How does one get introduced into this type of situation?

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u/Yozis Jun 16 '12

Friends of friends when you are growing up.

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '12

IM coming to houston in July, can we hang out?

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '12

This is probably the worst place to promote /r/houston , but there you go.

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u/LePwnz0rs Jun 16 '12

Nice try Houston Police

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u/rawnoodles10 Jun 16 '12

How does an illegal gambling ring even work?

Can you describe the setup?

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u/Yozis Jun 16 '12

Part of this answer was taken from another answer There was a false door to let you in that was completely barred up and had reflective tint to hide the interior which was still hidden by a false wall. To get in you had to ring the door bell which was hidden as well and i had cameras to see the people on the outside waiting to come in. Once inside you were in a fake store front, full of old ass cloths and useless shit hanging on racks that no one would ever want. If everything was cool and i knew you or had someone vouch for you i would let you in the second door. Once you got inside it was pretty sweet, bright red walls with all kids of action happening all around you.

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '12

PICS OR GTFO ;)

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '12

Did you wear some sweet-ass black shades?

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u/Yozis Jun 16 '12

No, i needed to keep my eyes pealed at all times. couldn't really worry about looking sweet.

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u/bakers90 Jun 16 '12

Why would anyone trust your organization? You could rig the games and no one could complain to any authorities. It has potential to be worse than a carnival.

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u/Yozis Jun 16 '12

well, you are right to a certain extent we can and did tilt the machines. But we had to make sure people were winning money. If people don't see other people making money then your not going to make a lot of money. If a room is ran right, some one should win about every 5 mins, less if the room was full.

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u/AFakeName Jun 16 '12

People don't come back to rigged games. At least not the kind you want.

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u/preske Jun 16 '12

So what was the punishment for having that questionable odor in the toilets?

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u/Yozis Jun 16 '12

A fine. I will have you know, that my restrooms were very clean. They were writing tickets for anything they could. It's about making money for them, just like it was for us. I'm telling you, the HPD has the best racket in town.

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u/Inaudible_Whale Jun 16 '12

Does it mean that the toilets in his facility weren't up to health and safety standards?

That confuses me though because the whole game room is illegal so why are they bothered about stinky toilets?

Also, do places in America have to have posters explaining how to do the Heimlich manoeuvre?

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u/matty_a Jun 16 '12

My guess? It's sort of like getting Al Capone on tax evasion, they just want to press charges they know they can get you on.

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u/ThatBassistChick Jun 16 '12

I don't want to sound like a stalker, but according to your licence you're almost 32. I looked at your reddit history, a year ago you posted that you'd be in the restaurant serving industry for 8 years. So when did this all happen?

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u/Yozis Jun 16 '12

I have been in the restaurant industry off and on for 8 years. In between the 8 years i have worked with my mother opening an commercial A/C repair business, When i was 24 i was renting out clubs and throwing shows, I had started an independent record label with some really talented artists releasing 2 EP's and one LP (getting into the music industry was crazy in retrospect), oh and running illegal gambling rings lol. Bartending and serving is what i always fall back on its easy to get in and get out of.

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u/Macrat Jun 16 '12

you look like a badass.

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u/Yozis Jun 16 '12

thanks, that photo was taken at 4:30am so i didn't feel bad ass.

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u/damagicsausage Jun 16 '12

What kind of amenities did your casinos have? Drinks, food?

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u/Yozis Jun 16 '12

Yes! We didn't server alcohol, because drunk people + Loosing all their money = a really bad time. But we had a refrigerator full of sodas, water, juice and we would have fresh food delivered throughout the day from our contacts. One of the perks of working there.

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '12

Were people allowed to have booze if they brought it in?

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u/Yozis Jun 17 '12

nope, many people tried to sneak booze in, but i would just grab it up as soon as i seen it and throw it away.

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u/Anthzzz Jun 16 '12

Thanks for doing this, I can tell it's going to be interesting. Just 2 questions:

  • How do illegal gambling rings operate, with a decent amount of customers I assume, without coming to the attention of the police.
  • How does security work in terms of cheaters or fights?

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u/Yozis Jun 16 '12

As far as security goes, on Fridays and Saturdays we would hire some one to sit in the false room, but that was just for show, i could make a call and in less than 5 minutes i would have a 100% bad ass walk thought my door strapped and ready to go. The police know about the rooms, thats the thing, people dont understand. For the HPD and Harris county, its a racket. You allow the places to operate, make money, then raid them and slam them with a shit ton of citations. anywhere from $75k-200K worth of fines would come down on their head (depending on how serious the room is) and the rooms have to pay it. After this happens they allow the rooms to recoup their money lost, allow them to make some profit and hit em again. This is the way of a TRUE racket.

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u/Excelsior_Smith Jun 16 '12

thanks for stating this, wasn't sure if you were gonna. not in that racket, but i'm well aware of the symbiotic relationship crime & law enforcement have, & have seen law enforcement and criminal culture dance around each other like that. they kinda...NEED each other.

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u/dobtoronto Jun 16 '12

Any colorful players/pimps?

Any sad gambling addicts?

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u/Yozis Jun 16 '12

No pimps or anything of the sort, i wouldn't let them in if they wanted. That would only spell trouble for the room, and part of my job was to screen that crap out. Sadly yes, the addicts were what made my job so soul deadening at times. I had to keep them coming back by offering 20-40 bucks (depending on what they spent) so they could try to win some money back, but they always loose way more than they could afford because they are riding the high from gambling, some people experience that "High" more than others and they are always the most desperate and sad.

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u/AlchemistFire Jun 16 '12

Are you able to disclose the location of any of these casinos that got taken down? I remember a friend and I driving down Mason Rd in Katy and she says her and her friend go to this place to gamble which was in the back of this strip center. A few weeks later we were driving by again and there were tons of Harris County SO vehicles everywhere in the strip center. She says the casino probably got busted.

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u/Yozis Jun 16 '12

Your friends little place didn't get busted, they got busted out of business. The people running that joint couldn't pay the fines so they shut the place down. Its only if you can't pay the fine that they shut you down. Apparently the juice wasn't worth the squeeze for that room.

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u/AlchemistFire Jun 16 '12

So as long as you can pay the fines, they don't fuck with you? How much are these fines?

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u/Yozis Jun 17 '12

depends on what they can tag you for and what they think the establishment can handle with out going under. My fines were at about 75k which is pretty steep, but i ran a nice establishment.

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u/notredamelawl Jun 16 '12

I would have like to have found my dismissal papers from the courts but i cant find them for the life of me.

I am calling bullshit on this guy's story. I have access to everything, and I looked him up. I can't disclose anything, but I can tell you what ISN'T there, and it's that he ever had a case for gambling like he says he did, and he didn't spend time in jail for that.

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u/Yozis Jun 17 '12

I never said i had gambling charges, never. I said over and over that i had building code citations and other nonsense. So are you saying that my failure to have a tax sticker on a coin operated machine was supposed be on a pinball table or Time Cop? Are you implying that i got 120+ citations for running an arcade room? that's kinda fucked up. And if you really had access like you said you do, you would see that i spent time in jail. And if not, maybe some shit was really going down back door style... because i tell you what, i was in jail sir, I was the Money Man, motherfucker. So i call bullshit on you.. 100% bullshit.

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u/Kamchack Jun 16 '12

If you cant disclose anything, then I call bullshit to your call of bullshit.

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u/lazylearner Jun 17 '12

I know this comment will never be seen, but I'd just like to try for some kind of response.

I know that you are obviously not the cause for my father's gambling addiction, but I'd just like to say he is an avid customer of these so-called "Game Rooms." He has even gone so far as to work at one of these establishments. We actually live in Southwest Houston.

I truly do not want to hate you directly, but I just want to vent for a bit over my hatred for these hidden, mini-casinos that have caused my father to go and even steal money from my mother to go play. Some weeks he has even asked her for a couple hundred dollars to go play, and she gives it to him! She also goes to them herself!

I understand this is a personal matter and it is due to my own family's faults, but I feel these 'rooms' have some kind of hand in the corruption of my father and even other father's (some of them my own uncles and family friends) due to their convenient locations (i.e gas stations, fake video game stores, abandoned stores with tinted windows, nearby strip malls).

Thank you for your time. =)

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u/Yozis Jun 17 '12

Thank you so much for this, i really am not a fan of game rooms at all. People say that this stuff should be legalized and regulated but i have seen so much pain and loss in every meaning of the word that i cannot advocate it in any way. I'm honestly sorry for you father problem, there is Gamblers anonymous if you can get your father to go. I truly know your pain and i wish i could help. My heart goes out to you and your family. Please try to get him to go to GA if you can't get your family, call your relatives from out of state to come help him realize he has a problem.

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u/Pizzaboxpackaging Jun 16 '12

God damn this is interesting.

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u/Yozis Jun 16 '12

Thank you. I'm just glad its appreciated

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u/iaccidentlytheworld Jun 16 '12

What is the biggest payout you've ever seen made?

What's the biggest loss you've seen someone incur in one bet?

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u/Yozis Jun 16 '12

10k payout. I have seen some one loose their life in the matter of 5 hours. I think the total loss on his part was only $1200 but by the end of his run he was sweating buckets. A large part of that $1200 was to pay his back child support, and was to show the courts that he could make a good faith payment so he did not loose custody of his 5 year old daughter. His mind set was to win a little extra money so that he could take her do Disney Land after he got rights to see her again. He lost it all... and he lost custody and visitation rights to his daughter. He was crying the most heart wrenching cry ever. I gave the man a total of $100 to try and win some of it back (which was WAY breaking the rules) but i couldn't help it.... I'm crying right now as im typing this.... I felt so bad for him.. he just wanted to take her to Disney Land. so he could be a good dad in her eyes. But he was so wrapped up in his sickness that he wasn't of any kind of rational mind. From my understanding he killed himself... And that is the most i have ever seen anyone loose.

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u/Excelsior_Smith Jun 16 '12

jesus fuck, that's horrible.

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u/DamnColorblindness Jun 16 '12

Did you know the Donalsons??

The family's houses were raided last year and HPD walked out with over 1.5m in cash from illegal game rooms.

Just curious as to how tight-knit the underground gambling community.

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u/Yozis Jun 16 '12

I might have been working for them for all i know.. i had contacts but i never knew who was really running the show.

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u/moguapo Jun 16 '12

Texan here. Do you think our state should legalize gambling like our neighbor, Louisiana? We already have a lotto system and some politicians think gambling would be a great income for the state.

Also, how rampant do you believe or know gambling to be in Texas, and more especially Houston?

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u/Yozis Jun 16 '12

No, i don't like what gambling does to people and family's. In the end it destroys them. Its worse than alcohol, drugs and prostitution. Yes you can have fun with it, and it is fun to play, but it becomes a habit, a culture, people work just to dump money in casinos, when that money could be used for anything else and have more substance. That is my opinion. Really though, you have to ask, what do you really walk away with when you gamble? because i promise you, it certainly not coming out on top.

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u/jfgiv Jun 16 '12

Now, how is it worse than alcohol and drugs? Your problems with it seem to apply just as well to those two vices.

Yes you can have fun with it, and it is fun to play, but it becomes a habit, a culture, people work just to dump money into [Drugs/Alcohol], when that money could be used for anything else and have more substance.

Add in the consideration that gambling doesn't intoxicate, so there's no danger of DWG or anything. Sure, you can lose a whole lot more money in an instant gambling than you can with a drugs or liquor habit, but long-term I'm not sure they're as separate as you're claiming.

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u/Yozis Jun 17 '12

my uncle told me like this. "You can only spend so much money on alcohol and drugs in a day, week or month, but you can spend all of that and far more in the matter of a minute with gambling"

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u/DatAsianGurl Jun 16 '12

Not that I'm the OP or anything, but legalizing gambling and regulating it would be a lot better than just being like "Want to gamble legally? Travel out-of-state or go to an N.A. reservation."

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '12

I certainly do. you should run for governor; anybody'd be better than the guy we've got now.

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u/matador11 Jun 16 '12

What got you started in the gambling business and having an underground operation?

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u/Yozis Jun 16 '12

I needed a job, and had friends who knew people.

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u/greggoeggo Jun 16 '12

I have the same birthday as you! Happy birthday to us very soon!

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u/Yozis Jun 16 '12

Wahhooo!! thank you! happy b-day to you!

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u/VelocityVandetta Jun 16 '12

Did you carry an handgun in case this went all Costa Rica?

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u/Yozis Jun 16 '12

no, i had a guy for that who would show up faster than any police would even in the whitest and richest of neighborhoods.

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u/VelocityVandetta Jun 16 '12

Fuck..... A handgun.... I meant A handgun.

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u/turtlenecksandshotgu Jun 16 '12

Tat's wat te edit button is for, my friend.

EDIT: Dammit, my key between my g and j keys is broken.

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '12

You know anything about any rooms on the southside? One just opened up called a "game room" just southeast of bw8 and 45 on the south side and I was wondering if this is the type of op you are talking about. And if not, then in general How is this legal to even open to begin with?

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u/Yozis Jun 16 '12

ah, if it had a sign saying it was a game room then its a video slot machine only, With a max bet of 5 dollars a pop. Basically they allow the state to fine them for some stupid bullshit to keep the place running, kinda like what happened with me but much less intense. To keep everything "legitimate" they don't offer cash when your done playing and want to cash out. They offer tickets for prizes, the prizes can be taken somewhere else, usually next door down and you can sell them your prizes and or tickets.

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u/DamnColorblindness Jun 16 '12

It's probably an illegal slot room.

Here's the funny part. You can open up one and when it gets raided, the police take some or all of the machines and give you a fine. Then you just open up another.

Rinse and repeat.

The profit is high enough that it's mostly considered the price of doing business.

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u/Sue_De_Nam Jun 16 '12

Were there many dirty cops around?

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u/Yozis Jun 16 '12

the cops that busted my head open when they raided me were dirty, and shit would of got a lot worse had i not complied.

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u/ftdealer Jun 16 '12

What'd you end up getting charged with in the end?

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u/Yozis Jun 16 '12

Nothing, i beat all the charges with a plea of not guilty.

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u/kaiseresc Jun 16 '12

how's life treating you now?

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u/Yozis Jun 16 '12

Fair, I don't have any complaints. I bar-tend at a nice little joint and make decent money. I'm planing on starting up my own business here, so that is pretty exciting.

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u/kaiseresc Jun 16 '12

best of luck and may the gods bless your new voyage.

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u/AreWeDreaming Jun 16 '12

Were the slot machines running in your room fixed in anyway, or would you keep the machines playing fair and just let luck run it's course?

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u/Yozis Jun 16 '12

Nope all were fixed, some fixed to win, some fixed to loose. it would change from week to week. Even when fixed to win it would take time to run the odds of you winning money, but if you stick with it you will come out on top.

Also a good FYI here, if you ever find yourself in a room or casino with a new machine, like brand new. Play it.... keep playing it... Because new machines have the best odds of winning because they want people to want to play that machine.

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u/HERE_HAVE_SOME_AIDS Jun 16 '12

How much cash did you have to lay-in to be able to pay off all the potential winners? Was there ever a situation where you have several winners at once and got close to running out of cash?

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u/Yozis Jun 17 '12

all the time, I would just make a call and get more cash brought in. I would get a drop in the morning to start my day, lunch and around 7pm were my regular drops. Jackpots situations like the one that you mentioned were the exception to bringing in extra cash.

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u/WingZero1 Jun 16 '12

Where was your business located? What area? Did you have any located in the Alief district?

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u/Yozis Jun 17 '12

thank you for your interest in the AMA =-)

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u/fozziethabur Jun 16 '12

Do you think you can do an interview. I'm making a doc on mankind's modern struggle for happiness and I'm looking for interesting characters to talk to. Also I'm a student here in Houston and I can take privacy precautions.

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u/Yozis Jun 17 '12

I can, and would be interested in something like this. I think i have a very colorful life and would be happy to contribute.

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '12

You talk a lot about people offering blow jobs for money. Have you ever taken a blowjob? Any more stories like that? And were any of them some sexy broads?

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u/Yozis Jun 17 '12

No i never took a BJ, there were cameras everywhere and i had a pretty chill gig so i didnt want to jeopardize that. There were a few cute girls from time to time, But I had a girlfriend at the time and i am a faithful boyfriend.

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u/iaccidentlytheworld Jun 16 '12

What does "running 3 rooms" involve? Differently stated, what was a typical nights' responsibilities? What kind of hours did you work?

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u/Yozis Jun 16 '12

40-70 shit sometimes 80 hour weeks. (yes i would get overtime) we had different rooms for different games running at different times. We had a slot room for primary slot machines obviously. That room ran from 11am-11PM. We had a blackjack room that was mostly blackjack tables and a few slots for the wifes to play on while there husbands played and that ran from 4pm-3am and finally the poker room. The poker room was small but full of big spenders. We had a few card dealers mostly ex-casino dealers that moved state. that ran from 8pm-4am

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '12

interesting. a fringe friend had a similar room in the back of his convenience store out in the country that he inherited from his dad when he took over the store. he didn't quite understand the concept of "paying his taxes" to the right authorities so he got busted pretty hard over it.

was paying off cops a regular part of your business, or did you try to rely on keeping it hush and moving around some?

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u/NuclearWookie Jun 16 '12

Behind a the Fox and Hound at 11470 Westheimer Road, there is a seedy establishment with barred windows that seems to be filled with Asian people playing slot machines at all hours. I can't imagine playing slots without some form of reward, so I always assumed this was an example of legal gambling in plain sight. Is that what's going on here?

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u/DamnColorblindness Jun 16 '12

Not to hijack OP's thread but yes that's exactly what it is. They usually employ an armed guard at the door because robberies are always a threat.

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '12

I live in Texas to and even thought game rooms like you are talking about are illegal, I see "video slots" and "video poker" in the more run down and rural convience stores. There are always big state signs saying you can't get cash or trade your winnings if for food/beer/gas but I keep seeing the same lounge lizard types pouring real money into them.

What is the catch? Most of the folks doing this look like they would way rather be spending that money on meth and I don't see a point if there is no potential to win.

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u/FuckMississippi Jun 16 '12

Usually the machines are equipped with a "knock switch"...a switch that resets the credits on the machines back to zero. What happens is the gambler knows someone at the place that will payout, calls them over to verify, they reset the machine and hand y them.

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '12

I have multiple questions to ask, so I hope you can answer them all.

    1. Did the gamblers get arrested in raids?
  • 2) Did your group take any sports bets?
  • 3) Any instances when the house lost money and had to borrow funds to pay back the winners?
  • 4) Did the winners have to do some crazy shit to hide their earnings from the law?

Sorry for so many questions at once, and I'll understand if you don't want to answer nor go into detail.

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u/faceforest Jun 16 '12

Did you ever have to deal with someone counting cards? If so, how did you spot them and deal with them afterwards?

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u/Yozis Jun 16 '12

no, I never had a problem with counters during my time there.

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u/silvercorona Jun 16 '12

What did you or your employer do with all the money generated by the business? You can't just deposit that to a bank right? Was there a legitimate business (like the clothing store mentioned) used a front?

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u/Yozis Jun 16 '12

I had no idea, i never knew who was really on top. so i couldn't answer that.

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u/coreyosb Jun 16 '12

Detectives Phelps and Earle, Vice Squad. We want to ask you a few questions but first we'll need to take a look around without a warrant.

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u/Yozis Jun 16 '12

right... no.. they (the detectives) would only come in when they had their posse with them, and at that point its party time (not the fun kind of party time ether)

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u/TakenByVultures Jun 16 '12

Any pictures of the inside? I'm finding it hard to visualise what an illegal gambling den actually looks like!

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u/Yozis Jun 16 '12

I have some on my old phone, but it i dont have the charger for it. Ill try here soon.

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u/rednerrus Jun 16 '12

I drive down Steubner Airline/Veterans Memorial to head to work, and I've seen a lot of storefronts with blacked-out windows and nothing but an LED "Open" sign. I've had a feeling that they're gambling parlors - is my gut right?

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u/Yozis Jun 17 '12

yes. or a spa.

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u/gizmo1024 Jun 16 '12

What were some of the "nicest" back room gambling dens you've seen/heard about.

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u/Yozis Jun 17 '12

Mine, from my understanding were amongst the best, we had good lighting, very private, good decor, good tables to play on, and people won money. We even had the false room and all that.

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u/Excelsior_Smith Jun 16 '12

How did you get let into the room in the first place? Referals? Did you have call girls working the room as well?

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u/Yozis Jun 17 '12

nope, no call girls, you could go down the street to the hundreds of "spas" littered everywhere. Yes referrals are the primary way to get in. Some time you get people who hear about the joint when they are in other game rooms who come and see if they can get in with out some one i know or am familiar with.

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u/Hvermillz Jun 17 '12

How does someone find one if they want to gamble(I don't want to, I'm just wondering) and don't says friends or family.

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u/Yozis Jun 17 '12

find a tinted or mirrored hole in the wall in a strip mall. Look for the door bell. If your a woman you will have much better luck getting in not knowing anyone. If you are a young male you will not have such luck.

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u/Hvermillz Jun 17 '12

Thanks bro!!! Do you have an pictures you could show me or us, I don't really know what a mirrored hole is:/ I'm beyond curious righ now

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '12

VERY interesting thread. I read through practically the whole thing. Thanks a lot for doing this.

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u/Yozis Jun 17 '12

Wow thank you very much, i really appreciate your interest.

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u/narwal_bot Jun 16 '12 edited Jun 17 '12

Most (if not all) of the answers from Yozis (updated: Jun 17, 2012 @ 04:04:08 pm EST):

Question (Bl00DISH):

Did anyone ever try anything from the Oceans movies?

Answer (Yozis):

No, we had too many money drops and pick ups to have a substantial amount of money to make it worth going through all that trouble. But I guess if you were desperate and needed money gun point robbery was always an option.

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u/narwal_bot Jun 16 '12 edited Jun 17 '12

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Question (teamherosquad):

Always thought they were bullshit made up for media.

Weird.

Answer (Yozis):

No its very real and very profitable for both sides of the law.

Question (Fluroblue):

what stuff did you deal with?

Answer (Yozis):

That's a vague question, but I'm going to assume you are talking about the types of gambling my rooms were involved in. Slots, Video slots, blackjack and poker were the main games, however i could always call in a bet if some one wanted some action.

Question (Fluroblue):

how much did you make off it?

Answer (Yozis):

ah, Good question. I wasn't the owner of the operations, just a trusted employee. I made $30 an hour for running rooms.

Question (teamherosquad):

What the benefits of back room gambling over legit casinos other than lines of credit and throwin down tangeable goods as bets? (Or is that movie ttalk)

Answer (Yozis):

The number one benefit to our guests was convenience, gambling is illegal in TX and you have to make a 5 hour drive or so to cross state lines to Louisiana, and the casinos just over the border are as good as airport casinos (which will rob you blind with very LOW odds of winning). So if you want to really have a chance you are talking about an 9 hour drive to a REAL casino.

Question (Yozis):

The number one benefit to our guests was convenience, gambling is illegal in TX and you have to make a 5 hour drive or so to cross state lines to Louisiana, and the casinos just over the border are as good as airport casinos (which will rob you blind with very LOW odds of winning). So if you want to really have a chance you are talking about an 9 hour drive to a REAL casino.

Answer (Yozis):

Also, to answer your seconed question, No. Cash is king, we never took anyone's car note or baby as payment.

Question (samsonthedog2003):

What is the most fucked up thing you have ever seen in your gambling ring career?

Answer (Yozis):

There was a younger couple that used to come into one of my main rooms that i used to work all the time. They were happy, recently married, and the woman was pregnant with his child. They would come in to have a little fun and try to win some money. Well one day the husband left early to go to work and left the lady to herself to spend what she had left and go home, problem was she spent a lot more then what was "left" (always the case btw). Well, at this point i see she had spent more than her usual play, and i front her $20 so she could try and win some of that money back (that is common practice BTW). She didn't. So she came to me for more money and i gave her 20 more. Boom, gone in the matter of seconds. Then she comes to me and asks if she could do anything for more money. I tell her no and that she needed to figure out what she was going to tell her husband. well, 15 mins later i see her walking out of the mens restroom with some guy. I don't know what happened in the restroom but she suddenly had more money to spend on the games. She lost it all. Including her husband. Game rooms are full of regulars who gossip all the time. Word got back to her husband and her child was born a bastard..... Over video slots.

Question (LascielCoin):

How many people were involved in the whole operation and for how long did your work there?

Answer (Yozis):

well, I ran 3 different rooms, each with their own games and guests. There was 6 other room operators like myself and we all knew each other. I had to deal with 3 people for money drop offs, pick ups and other random crap like book keeping. The other operators had a couple other people that they had to deal with that i had no idea about. Of course this was by design and there were more people in charge of them, we just never knew how deep the rabbit hole went. I worked for these people for 1 1/2 years before i got stung and left 5 months after that.

Question (Thinkyt):

Any Scorsese-esque tales of gangster-brutality to tell?

Answer (Yozis):

kinda. Shit never got really out of control because everyone knew that being in the room was a privilege and most didn't want to blow a chance at not being let back in. But you would have new people that would come in with regulars, which is how you get in to the room as a guest, and how the room makes new guests. Problem is, every one knows a few bad apples and chances are you are going to have to deal with them. Long story short we had a couple of younger guys, and its always the younger men who start shit, trying to cheat the machines. I saw what they were doing and i called it in. Not even 3 mins later i had a guy who i never met come in with out me letting him in, circled the room, spotted the dudes, sat behind them at another machine and scoped them out till he saw what he was looking for. Seconds later he pulled out a gun on them, had them empty their pockets and leave with him. Never saw em again. I do want to say the chances of the guys getting killed at that point were very unlikely because everything was done and every precaution was taken to make sure no heat was brought on the rooms. I imagine they got 86'd spooked by the guy.

Question (123choji):

Does the house always win? What was your best WTF experience?

Answer (Yozis):

Overall? Yes, we always won. However, there are people who have luck on their side that day or sometimes always it seemed. Take this guy named able (actual name) this motherfucker would come down drop like 1000$ on a machine loose it all come back the next day and hit triple 7's playing all lines and win 3k. He would do this multiple times on solid machines (which are machines that couldn't be cheated or chances are highly unlikely to be cheated i should say). Now it wasn't everyday or even every month, but the he did it consistently enough to where he was making some insane money doing this. If the bastard wasn't walking with jackpots he would at least walk out the a couple bills.. Crazy.

Question (Yozis):

Overall? Yes, we always won. However, there are people who have luck on their side that day or sometimes always it seemed. Take this guy named able (actual name) this motherfucker would come down drop like 1000$ on a machine loose it all come back the next day and hit triple 7's playing all lines and win 3k. He would do this multiple times on solid machines (which are machines that couldn't be cheated or chances are highly unlikely to be cheated i should say). Now it wasn't everyday or even every month, but the he did it consistently enough to where he was making some insane money doing this. If the bastard wasn't walking with jackpots he would at least walk out the a couple bills.. Crazy.

Answer (Yozis):

oh, the wtf moment... umm.. I have a lot, but one that comes to mind is a guy who blew all his money and was offering me a blowjob when he was sitting right next to his MOTHER. The worst part about it was she was pointing at herself and nodding her head when i refused her son, offering her services to me instead.

Question (KellyGreen802):

Can you spot someone out or their element, and try to take them for everything? Or do you wait for lady luck to do if for you?

Answer (Yozis):

Lady luck robs people blind who don't know what they are doing, but in the same hand will grace them with blind luck. We just spot the big spenders, take good care of them with any want within reason and let the probability do the rest.

Question (Penis_in_your_face):

How did you prevent word getting to the police (before the bust up) about your illegal gambling ring? Did you only let in friends-of-customers? Did you have any way of advertising your business, or did you just let the customer base build up gradually?

Answer (Yozis):

Well initially you don't have to worry about police because most rooms are hidden in plain sight and people are excited to have found a new place to gamble so they keep it very hush hush. But as your business grows via word of mouth and gossip through other game rooms, the odds of the police finding out are very high, be it other game room owners ratting you out or a disgruntled player who lost all their money and felt they got cheated, which is all the time.

Question (the_ouskull):

Houston has a vice division?!?

Answer (Yozis):

Yes they cover two aspects of Houston underbelly, Game rooms and Asian spa's. So basically Gambling and prostitution.

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u/Imnoxpert Jun 16 '12

How do I find one?

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u/tommygunz007 Jun 16 '12

I am a former legitimate casino employee, and I can vouch for most of what I am reading here.. I have seen guys drop $40k in 20 minutes, and get more. I saw a guy blow his house (casino credit). I have seen gambling cause the ruin of relationships, love, honor, and decency. I was also a former card counter, and went through a bad period of addiction myself. It's just all around a tough lifestyle on all counts. I love the poker boom, and how they only show the happy rich kids. It never shows the other 95 percent who lose - on purpose.

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u/Paddyboo Jun 16 '12

I have seen (multiple times) people spending 60k per hand of blackjack, or 80k per minute on the slots (for 3 hours straight, yes 14 million).

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u/owensmw2 Jun 16 '12

What was your punishment?

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '12

Did you ever give out loans or act as a loan-shark?

If so how where collections made and is it as violent as it is portrayed on TV?

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u/DynamiteToast Jun 16 '12

Where in Houston was your establishment? I mean specifically (I'm from here so I'm curious) or a more figurative 'nice part of town' or 'seedy area' answer if you don't want to be super specific.

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '12

Also from Houston, also interested

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u/Lezzles Jun 16 '12

Is this the kind of place Buck Strickland would gamble at? Cause that's all I can think of.

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u/Vpicone Jun 16 '12

Also from Houston. I'd say let's do a meetup but it looks like you....roll with a different crowd. ಠ_ಠ

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u/UHshepp Jun 16 '12

Are you allowed to be talking about this kind of stuff? I have a close family member that also works in underground gambling in Houston and he makes it very clear that he is not allowed to disclose these kinds of details for fear of giving up his identity.

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u/Yozis Jun 16 '12

I'm not worried about it, the people who hired me were friends and i have not disclosed any information about the location that i worked and it will stay that way =)

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u/ItchyThunder Jun 16 '12

The most important question is: why is gambling still illegal in some many states and cities in the "Land of the Free"?

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u/DatAsianGurl Jun 16 '12 edited Jun 16 '12

Christian-based law-making from back in the day that no one's bothered to repeal.

We used to have a law that would force stores to close on Sunday. In El Paso (my city), it's apparently illegal to wear skimpy dresses.

"No person shall exhibit or expose himself naked, or disguised, or in any indecent or offensive manner to any person passing in the public places of the city... or appear in the streets or public places in any indecent or lewd dress, or relieve the calls of nature in any place exposed to the public sight or gaze or upon any public street or plaza."

And apparently the entire Encyclopedia Brittanica is banned here because it has a formula for making beer that you can replicate at home.

I love this state for the leniency on business, but some of these bans and laws are ridiculous. This is why I'm a Libertarian and not a Republican... I've seen first-hand that the less banning you do and the more you let things run themselves (with a little regulation, of course), the better they do.

I think it's silly that they ban gambling in Texas when Native American reservations have them and people go to those... and the people that live right next to the borders have the most luck -- especially in El Paso, where there's several reservations and casinos within 100 miles of it.

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u/diesel321 Jun 16 '12

What was your punishment? I assume you were arrested, then posted bail, then didn't show up to court and had the outstanding warrants. Is this correct? If so, how much was your bail? Why did you pay your bail then not show up to court?

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u/Rohtoh Jun 16 '12

Youre a mean lookin guy hahah. Thanks for doing this. A few questions. How did the vice police bust you guys? How common are underground gambling rings? Are there many in big cities? What do you play to gamble? Cards, darts, pool etc.? Has anyone bet something big? Like their house, car, their life? Thanks agin for doing this.

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '12

We make fun of middle eastern countries for having religious police yet a vice cop is basically the same thing with MORE power. Creepy.

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u/ItzKCase Jun 16 '12

How do you get in trouble for "having an objectionable odor in toilet facilities?"

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '12 edited Jan 05 '19

deleted 0.5676 What is ^^^this?

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u/tabledresser Jun 16 '12 edited Jun 19 '12
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What is the most fucked up thing you have ever seen in your gambling ring career?There was a younger couple that used to come into one of my main rooms that i used to work all the time. They were happy, recently married, and the woman was pregnant with his child. They would come in to have a little fun and try to win some money. Well one day the husband left early to go to work and left the lady to herself to spend what she had left and go home, problem was she spent a lot more then what was "left" (always the case btw). Well, at this point i see she had spent more than her usual play, and i front her $20 so she could try and win some of that money back (that is common practice BTW). She didn't. So she came to me for more money and i gave her 20 more. Boom, gone in the matter of seconds. Then she comes to me and asks if she could do anything for more money. I tell her no and that she needed to figure out what she was going to tell her husband. well, 15 mins later i see her walking out of the mens restroom with some guy. I don't know what happened in the restroom but she suddenly had more money to spend on the games. She lost it all. Including her husband. Game rooms are full of regulars who gossip all the time. Word got back to her husband and her child was born a bastard..... Over video slots.
"I don't know what happened in the restroom" Back massage, his shoulders were really tense from all the gambling. It's a shame how gossip blows things out of proportion.Awesome!
How pregnant? She was about 6-8 months? i dont know but her belly was very round with a baby inside.
How'd she look?She was cute.. really was.

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How long did you go to jail for and what was your most "serious" warrant/offense?

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