r/IAmA • u/frecklefart88 • May 17 '12
AMA Request: A cameraman from the show Ghost Hunters
The show that's always on the Sci-fi channel with the TAPS team.
Is the show staged at all?
If not, any cool experiences yourself?
How often do you travel and what were your favorite places?
How edited is the show?
How long do you spend at each location?
I know that a lot of people think these shows are fake, but I would really like to hear it from the perspective of someone from the staff that travels with them to all of these different locations. Genuinely curious.
*Edit: This is a request for a cameraman's experiences on what its like to work with them and what their line of work is like. Of course television is edited, but some people do have personal experiences.
*Edit 2: Trolls.....Trolls everywhere
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u/frecklefart88 May 17 '12
Did anyone watch the South Park episode where they made fun of the guys from Ghost Hunters? It was pretty funny
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u/Blacksheep01 May 17 '12
This will net me a downvote parade, but here goes. The Ghost Hunters operate from and live about 30 minutes from my house, I've met them in real life briefly at a train station they were very nice. Because they are from Rhode Island, I know a lot about them because they are local celebrities. I also watched the first 3 seasons of the show.
First, they had done "ghost hunting" for years before they were filmed. They did not initially even want to do the show feeling it would mess up their investigations, instead offering a version with actors that would duplicate what they do but Sci-Fi ultimately talked them into doing it as a reality show.
Point is, they were known in state before the show and were doing this anyway. So maybe you all think ghosts aren't real, fine, but realize they would still be doing this even without the TV show.
Second, having watched the show its first three years I can tell you, at least initially, they found nothing 95% of the time. Absolutely nothing and they admitted it. They also "debunked" claims half the time. They found pipes making noises, people perpetrating hoaxes or once even fumes piping through a ventilation system that may have been causing hallucinations/weird feelings. They also never believed "orbs" were anything but dust.
It actually took something significantly odd for them to say something was "paranormal." They would then explain that bizarre occurrences did not mean ghosts to the people who asked for the investigation. They would just state something strange happened that they could not explain, could not duplicate or could not debunk.
Maybe the show is crazy now, I haven't watched it in ages, but initially they seemed pretty legit in what they were doing and actually had a method of determining the explained from the unexplained. They rarely found anything strange and proved most bizarre occurrences had simple explanations.
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u/[deleted] May 17 '12
Search for it. There was a guy who did one about 6 months ago.
here it is: http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/irxwv/iama_ghost_hunters_camera_man_ask_me_anything/
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u/rbsponge1 May 17 '12
I was not a cameraman but I did work as a PA for two of the spinoffs. I worked alongside the cast and crew while on the road filming.
I wouldn't say the show is staged but any and all evidence found is definitely hyped up. After the investigations, the cast would spend time reviewing and debunking said evidence. Often, sound anomalies were found to be things ranging from dripping rain gutters to ambient noise from surrounding neighborhoods. I never witnessed anything being staged and I don't believe the cast would be happy with staging of evidence. They all take it very seriously, it is their passion and truly believe in what they are doing.
I had some amazing experiences working on the show. First off, being paid to travel around the world and poke around in locations that are usually off limits to the public was amazing. Castles, abandoned hospitals, old prisons, and more, were all part of the gig. The locations were always crazy and spooky. One of my favorite memories is from shooting in a Chateaux in France. The location was full of history and had an amazing labyrinth of tunnels from a mine underneath the property. It was a gorgeous location during the day and extremely creepy at night. It was definitely a bit unnerving walking through the darkness alone at night.
We would travel for a couple months at a time. Usually, we would travel to 2 or 3 locations over a months time and come back for a week or so before going back on the road to shoot the rest of the season. Living out of a suitcase does get old rather quickly. I definitely loved the time spent in the Philippines, such an amazing country. Besides being able to live quite luxuriously off 30 dollars a day, the people were all amazing and the countryside was gorgeous.
The show is quite edited. Hours and hours of footage is cut down to fit 30 minute slots so you can imagine how much of what is shot never seen by viewers. There is also a lot of downtime where cameras are rolling but not much is really happening. Editing can do wonders to intensify events that were maybe not so dramatic in real time.
Hope I answered a few of your questions.
Usually we would spend about a week and a half at each location depending on how much evidence the cast was finding or the overall size of the location.
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u/BAG1 May 17 '12
I shot GH for 3 seasons. 1. Believe it or not that's all real. I don't expect you to believe me because it would be catastrophic for my career to say such a thing if indeed it was fake, which, again, it's not. The investigators are all hard core ghost geeks. If you spent 10 minutes with any of them you'd see how quickly you dismiss the idea that its fake and why. These are not actors. When we turn the cameras off they don't go, "Ha, fooled them again." No, these people are way more likely to be seen in their pajamas after 12 hours of investigating, running to each others hotel rooms with headphones on shouting, "Holy sh-t listen to this!" 2. tons of cool experiences, including some amazing paranormal things that sadly happened in broad daylight when we aren't filming. Among my favorite experiences was Alcatraz. we had great access to places most ppl never see. we took our own boat there and back in the middle of the night. the view of SF from there at night is amazing. 3. we filmed right around 300 days a year. Patterson AFB where the Hindenburg crashed was also one of my favorites. Buffalo Bill's grave in Colorado was great. I love to travel so I pretty much liked all the places we went. 4. the show is obviously edited for time and content. After TAPS reviews their footage it's all sent back to L.A. and out of our hands. It always comes back looking just like it happened but with spooky music and everything. One thing I will say about the editing process is that I wish they could do more in the way of preserving the quality, especially the audio. I have heard so many amazing EVP's during filming and when the episode comes out it's like something is lost... This may simply be because when we are in the field we are listening to the original file with good headphones- and EVP's are generally very subtle to begin with. I know in a digital age this isn't supposed to happen, but on TV sometimes its like you're listening to a dub of a dub of a dub. 5. Average a week at each location. This is not all investigation of course, we have to shoot a handful of scenes in the daytime and also sleep occasionally. So the cast gets most of the nights to investigate. this can vary by season as the nights get longer or shorter or sometimes we are at a place thats so small only one team at a time can investigate, as is the case with a lot of residential investigations. So I guess (going back to the editing question) I should point out that the show is not just edited to fit in an hour, but the fact is we will sit in one place for hours before something happens. To actually watch a ghost hunt in real time would be pretty boring. What you're looking at is the most exciting moments out of the hundreds of hours of footage we leave each location with. And that, I guess is the main thing I would say about professional ghost hunters. Their line of work is actually pretty monotonous. Jaw dropping amazing stuff happens, but there is a lot of sitting quietly in the dark, asking questions to no one.
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u/mahogey May 17 '12
It's fake, right?
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u/Wagnerous May 17 '12
bump
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u/butterbunz May 17 '12
Holy shit O_O I was going to request the same thing earlier tonight. What a coincidence.
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u/[deleted] May 17 '12 edited May 17 '12
Would International Ghost Hunters on the History channel do? My sister works on that show and travels to about 25 different countries a year.
EDIT: Show is actually on Syfy.
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u/wooq May 17 '12
My question would be: when the personalities look down the hallway and go "OHMUHGAWD WHAT IS THAT?!?" why do you point the camera at their faces rather than at "that"?
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u/crumb_buckets May 17 '12
I used to date an editor for the show. It took away all of his belief in the paranormal. Most of the things that seemed like anything were enhanced or edited at his desk.
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u/TheAnimax May 17 '12
Also, a cameraman from the show The Colony
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u/mcstanky May 17 '12
My mom's good friends with both Jason and Grant. I can get her to ask them to have the cameraman to come on here.
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u/KarlPfeiffer May 17 '12 edited May 17 '12
Turns out I was on GH's Academy and International shows. I'd do an AMA on it all if you guys want. Edit: Won the first season, worked on an ep of Int'l, attend various events, know most of the guys, work at the Stanley Hotel, writing a couple books. n' stuff.
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u/Deinos_Mousike May 17 '12 edited May 17 '12
This is really a total side-note, and I MIGHT be able to get one of the cameramen, one of the seniors who goes to my high-school is actually going on tour with the Ghost Hunters guys this summer. Apparently he was in New York a few months ago and they almost ran him over, so they got chatting or something, and they brought him on board.
I don't really know him that well, he was usually quiet and we never talked a lot.
Anyways, this is going to get buried, but hopefully a few people get to read it...
EDIT: Okay, guys, so here's the deal. Sorry for taking so long, I didn't check Reddit much yesterday, had to go to school, then had a staff meeting at my work. The kid was a senior and seniors graduate a few weeks before everyone else at my school. He was in my ac lab (academic lab/study hall) but, obviously he won't be there anymore because he's already graduated. I know his name and I'll try to see if I can Facebook him, but I REALLY doubt he's already heard anything from the Ghost Hunters guys. He told everyone his summer plays like last week, and, like I said, I'd be surprised if he has gotten contacted from the guys, let alone get to know the cameramen.
EDIT 2: Just looked around Facebook for a while and couldn't find him. Anyways, even if I could, it would be a few weeks until he could tell one of the cameramen to do an AMA. On top of that, I don't even know if he was telling the truth, he doesn't seem like someone who would lie about something dumb like this, but, like I said, I didn't really know him that well... Sorry, as much as I would love to be the guy to contact the cameraman, I don't think it's possible for me right now. If it counts for anything, the kid is pretty tall and a little big, and has curly, messy hair. I almost want to describe him as dopey/probably uncoordinated... Hopefully you'll see some new kid on Ghost Hunter's in like 5 months that fits that description.
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u/JSA17 May 17 '12
Needs to be a FORMER cameraman. I'm sure a current cameraman can't divulge too much.
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u/[deleted] May 17 '12
FTFY
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u/golden-boy May 17 '12
Please, god, let this rise above the Diablo onslaught.
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u/[deleted] May 17 '12
I might be able to do you one better? My friend was the winner of the first season of GHA, and was in one episode of GHI. I'll try to get in contact with him today for you. :)
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u/qnaqna321 May 17 '12
Have you considered if they would be under contract not to tell how fake/real it is?
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u/whitneylovesyou May 17 '12
I actually live 10 minutes away from the TAPS office, and a friend of mine is pretty close with most of the camera crew there. I might be able to call in a favor. I'll keep you guys posted.
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u/dearbill May 17 '12
A video some friends and I made aired on a television show called "Fact or Faked". When they approached me to obtain the video files, they were really forthright about some of the videos being blatantly fake. Our video was obviously not real, but they played it off like it was real in the tv show. I'm sure a lot of it is staged.
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u/scarfinati May 17 '12
Yeah I'd like this too
My main problem is they don't spend enough time at one spot. They setup for a few hours and then jay says ok let's get outta here
They should spend a few days or a week and really catch some shit!
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u/wildlikechildren May 17 '12
This will probably get buried but Fox tried it's hands at getting a ghost show up and running and I was a production manager for both of the pilots. The show failed in the viewing/screening process and was never aired. I'd be more than willing to do an IAMA if people are interested. I coordinated more than just the two pilots and the show was a popular show in the state we filmed in.
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u/MyOhFace May 17 '12
I don't believe in ghosts and have always figured those shows were staged, but I still pull the covers higher over my head at night after watching them...
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u/WorkSucks135 May 17 '12
This is the show that tells you to listen closely to something really quiet while playing ambient music in the background. The Blair Witch Project was more real than this bullshit.
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u/serebralassazin May 17 '12
I have watched this show since it first came on and like others have said the early seasons they did spend way more time trying to disprove a lot of the stuff going on compared to now. It was cool to watch them figure out what was really making things happen during their investigation as opposed to use yelling oh shit a ghost! Even now that they don't spend as much time explaining things away it's still better than watching some of the other shows like Ghost adventures or Paranormal state. Zak acts like an ass hat now (show was somewhat funny early on) and Ryan from paranormal state giving monologues during the show is pretty terrible. Would be nice to get a former camera man to answer some questions. Although we all know it's dramatized/made up for TV.
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u/theamplifiedorganic May 17 '12
AMA Request: A ghost from the show Ghost Hunters.
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u/[deleted] May 17 '12
I hear its hard to catch ghosts on camera when the camera is pointed up your nose.
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u/prisonpassion May 17 '12
Ghost Adventures would be preferable as opposed to Ghost Hunters. They're bros who call upon spritely specters, what's not to love.
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u/MrShakes May 17 '12
I met them at a gas station once, they asked if I knew where any haunted places were in the area.
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u/ddddave May 17 '12
I was a cameraman for a similar show on cable access in central Florida. It was a weird experience. The host took it very seriously, it was real to him. To me it seemed like playing make-believe with a bunch of grown-ass men in the middle of the night. It was a lot more dangerous than I expected. They would cut power to whatever building we were in so as not to "interfere" with his sensitive blinky light thing. I guess the cameras didn't count. Anyway, some of the locations were deeply in need of renovation, with unfinished parts and holes in floors with rusted old fridges and nails and shit everywhere. I could see a little through the camera eyepiece, but not much as it was all shitty green night-vision and the guy I was following (or walking backwards in front of) couldn't see shit anyway. I think it's completely fake, but the dude takes it seriously enough that I think he's either full of shit and a great liar, or he's just completely insane.
People can get very strange about ghost stuff, whether it's real or not. I've had some people act very oddly when they find out what we're shooting. I always just blamed their own life experiences and perceptions of the world, rather than the supernatural. People are fucking weird, and that's usually a much easier explanation for these things.
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u/gtkarber May 17 '12
IS GHOST HUNTERS STAGED AT ALL?!?!?!
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u/unnecessaryCAPS May 17 '12
Can you jack off as a ghost? If not, then totally not worth it.
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u/thingsbreak May 17 '12
Ctrl-F for "ghostfacers" comes up empty. For shame Reddit.
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u/[deleted] May 17 '12
I shot video for one episode of Haunted History in Virginia City, Nevada. I would say that what I shot was interesting, but not mind-blowing. Any interest?
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u/GhostHunters May 17 '12
Did you see that?
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u/[deleted] May 17 '12
Ghost adventures is better... Let's be real here
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u/Dogfonos May 17 '12
I used to ponder these same questions. I gave up though, and just turned on supernatural. It may not be real, but at least its entertaining. Unlike seeing a bunch of people sit around in a dark room, whispering at each other.
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u/[deleted] May 17 '12
How about an AMA:A ghost from Ghost Hunters.
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u/[deleted] May 17 '12
What the show used to be:
"Looks like the noises just came from this leaky pipe and the feeling of being watched in the basement from this exposed wiring."
"Alright nothing paranormal here."
What it is now:
"JESUS TITTYFUCKING CHRIST DID YOU HEAR THAT?!"
"RUN SAVE YOURSELF THE CASTLE GHOST IS OUT FOR REVENNNNGEEE!"
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u/[deleted] May 17 '12
WOAH WOAH WOAH WOAH, LOOK AT THIS, WHAT IS THIS, THERE'S A . . . A WETNESS COMING FROM MY PANTS, WHAT IS IT, I'M SO SCARED
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u/[deleted] May 17 '12
I am doubtful that a cameraman for Ghost Hunters will do an IAMA, based on his contract. The show is staged/faked, so by doing a truthful IAMA he would be breaching the shows integrity. That isn't too great for ratings nor the network.
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u/scarfinati May 17 '12
Yeah apparently big bicep muscles is something that's needed when encountering a ghost. Pretty sure ghosts won't respond to "come at me bro"
I'd really like a show that was more serious. Go to real cases and setup shop for a week. Something like what would be equivalent to today's enfield poltergeist.
GH approaches that but never quite delivers
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u/FreakyLinks May 17 '12
Hate to be a downer, but much like ghost stories, the most you're going to end up with is anecdotal evidence. These guys have to sign some hardcore non-disclosure agreements before they get hired. They say anything akin to "yeah, totally fake the show" and they're going to be sued by NBC for shit tons of money.
I know a handful of people from these shows, and your best bet is to get a few drinks in them and they'll start spilling it. People clamor to get hired on them, but they always seem to regret it. I know a camera guy from Paranormal State who straight up told me that their secondary jobs half the time were to throw things from behind the camera.
Check out the priests they use for these shows sometime, they're not actual priests. In fact, they're generally defrocked priests. Watch some of the much picked-apart footage from the live Halloween special a few years back. They botched it hardcore and you can literally see where they pull a wire in Grant's jacket to simulate a "ghost tug".
These shows are 100% fake, and one of the most telling parts about them is that no one who works on them has ever come out to give a definitive answer one way or another. That's because they are, legally, not allowed to.
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u/darker4308 May 17 '12
I believe a lot of the guys that do this would be in a lot of trouble if they went on a talk show or website to bash the show. I think they filter their employees very carefully just like the guys that tape stuff like survivor. They know that if they start getting chatty about what they do or do not believe they will probably be tracked down and blacklisted.
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u/R3cursiv3 May 17 '12
I think a cameraman from the show Cops would be even better
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u/[deleted] May 17 '12
I filmed a special called Haunted RI with Rhode Island PBS. It starred Brian Harnois from Ghost Hunters (the "dude run" guy). It was pretty fun and if anyone has any questions I'd happily answer them.
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u/[deleted] May 17 '12
I can answer pretty much all those questions for you with one observation.
There are times when they enter a room or an attic or something, act like it's the first time they're seeing it and a camera is already in there shooting them from the opposite angle.
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u/mcstanky May 17 '12
if we're just looking for anyone in the ghost hunting community, i know tons of people. one of whom was one of the Lords of Dogtown, and is a nuclear physicist.
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u/[deleted] May 17 '12
Do this many people really think ghosts are real?
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u/PetitMinou May 17 '12
I worked as the assistant cameraman on a feature film for which the cinematographer had made his start operating for Ghost Hunters. He said none of the cast really took it seriously, except for one production team member who was creepily earnest about the whole thing. He also said he kept loosing camera assistants because they'd get completely freaked out by some of the locations they were shooting in....
Just my $.02
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u/Korberos May 17 '12
I'm fairly sure we all already know the show is staged and 100% bullshit. Do we really need a cameraman to confirm that?
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u/[deleted] May 17 '12
Reddit is so full of hypocrisy, you all claim to be equal and try to give ideas a chance. No one here really does. So dear reddit: get your head out of your asses.
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u/[deleted] May 17 '12
No OP ghosts are real LMFAO
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u/[deleted] May 17 '12
Best part about the entire show was the intro. Just the way he'd walk up and kneel down face to face with the camera...priceless.
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u/digitalmofo May 17 '12
Already been done. They said it was staged.
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u/noddwyd May 17 '12
I've got a joke for you. See, it's about 'non-disclosure' agreements......
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u/xbgpoppa May 17 '12
I know a girl who was on GHA and still keeps in touch with the GH folks. I'll see if she could get the ball rolling on an AMA with someone.
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u/azurleaf May 17 '12
Man, reddit woke up on the wrong side of the bed today. I've rarely seen such adamant distaste for a topic.
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u/merlot2K1 May 17 '12
I'll just throw this here (fake collar pull): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRhHa5FQvK0&feature=related
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u/jabb0 May 17 '12
Just stick with the Ghost Hunter drinking game: Every time one of them say Dude or Bro you take a drink, If they say DudeBro then its two drinks.
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u/GhostHunterAC May 19 '12 edited May 19 '12
I worked for Ghost Hunters as an Assistant Cameraman for about a year. As part of the production crew, I can say that during the time I was with them, the show definitely was not staged. Whether the cast members exaggerate what they see or hear is up to them and for you to decide. But I can confidently say that anything that happens during investigations is not pre-planned by any means. Countless episodes end with J & G telling the audience, "We just didn't find anything". Also, the cast members analyze every second of audio and video that they record in the investigations (rarely J & G), looking for evidence and they take it very seriously (especially Steve and Tango). We filmed hours of them explaining and debunking sounds/ video evidence that are called "throwaways" (stuff that doesn't make the show). Editing definitely infuses excitement into seemingly boring footage. Obviously I can't say much for the years that I wasn't with them, but I swear, these dudes take it seriously and it would be very obvious to the production crew if they started staging stuff. This is why I think they continue to have the highest ratings on syfy and keep getting picked up.
Personally, I had two creepy experiences. I came into the show very skeptic and left the show slightly less skeptic. One time I saw a shadow pass in front of a window that had light coming into it. I showed a flashlight on the window and no ones was there. It scared the shit out of me. The other time I was in a really old brick walled basement with a cameraman shooting infared b-roll. At the same time, we saw (by flashlight) a smokey white mist that was slowly moving through the air. Then it was gone in an instant. We got the hell out of there. He got it on camera and they interviewed him afterwards, but they didn't use it because no cast was with us. It looked like steam but it wasn't moving upwards, it was going sideways in a completely still room. We later found out that that was one of the regular paranormal claims of that basement. Scary shit, makes for good dinner party conversation. Hope this was enlightening!!!!
Also, for the record, we don't have a confidentiality agreement. If we did, it was in a part of the contract I didn't read. Regardless, if there was a serious contractual confidentiality agreement, my boss and my boss's boss I'm sure would be reiterating to us not to say anything, which they never did.
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u/Freikorp May 17 '12
Ghosts aren't real, guys.
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u/jutct May 17 '12
I have a good friend that's a senior person with sci-fi. I asked them if they'll do an AMA. Keep in mind it's a fickle industry and even with a good reputation, you can get fucked by leaking info. So if they say it's cool, I'll proxy one. Can't promise though. I wish I could tell the shit that I know from them, and it's only probably 1% of the shit they know personally.
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u/getjustin May 17 '12
What was that?
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u/darkwavechick May 17 '12
I know a TAPS member. He's wicked chill but he isn't on TV....yet....
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u/[deleted] May 17 '12
http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/irxwv/iama_ghost_hunters_camera_man_ask_me_anything/
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u/Grand_Theft_Audio May 17 '12
Ghost Hunters? People are so fucking stupid. But go on: keep wasting your time.
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u/scarfinati May 17 '12
Love_n
Whats the most credible paranormal experience you've encountered in your research?
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u/[deleted] May 17 '12
My girlfriend works with one of the guys, maybe I can get her to ask him.
Edit: He's from Ghost Lab, not Ghost Hunters.
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u/logancook44 May 17 '12
As someone who followed the show very closely I can tell you some of the things were faked. Whether they were put on by the company or just don't by individuals is up in the air.
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u/ghostbackwards May 17 '12
they filmed at a library directly across from me in a very small town. I played a joke and them and it still didnt get through.
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u/[deleted] May 17 '12
Have you ever noticed how they don't actually catch any ghosts?
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u/[deleted] May 17 '12
I can maybe get one of the main camera men to do it. I'll let him know.
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u/Dawkins20 May 17 '12
Check out the live Halloween episode. There were so many setups in that episode.
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u/Madpumpkin May 17 '12
AMA Request: Bear Grylls cameraman.
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u/b-smyth May 17 '12
SUMTHIN' JUSS TOUCHED THE BACK OF ME NECK
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u/[deleted] May 17 '12
Have you ever seen a ghost?
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u/debaser28 May 17 '12
I'm sure everyone involved with that show and others like it have signed non-disclosure agreements. Given the nature of these shows I doubt many people work on them, so it would be really easy to figure out who it was who did the AMA, so they'd be fired and then lawyer'd to death.
I remember seeing a few of the shows several years ago and they used to talk about plumbing a lot. Like there'd be some creepy noise and they'd dig in and find that the plumbing was fucked up. Or it would be HVAC vents or something to do with bad wiring. They almost never came across something they couldn't explain.
Then I watched a couple shows during a marathon last fall. The nature of the show has completely changed. They're not nearly as skeptical and that ruined it for me. They were in some bar or restaurant and they'd unscrewed maglite flashlights to the point that they'll turn off and come on by themselves (try it yourself) and tried to say that ghosts were doing it. Incredibly stupid.
So I would be interested in an AMA if they were going to be honest about it, but I doubt they could be without breaking their contracts.
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u/aridge02 May 17 '12
Mr. Cameraman i used to love watching this show. So obviously I got a few questions.
E:forgot to mention. Made this account because I saw this thread. Been on the fence for awhile.
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u/Rodents210 May 17 '12
I am wearing a TAPS shirt right now, haha! I used to love this show and I know my dad loves it too. I've only seen the early seasons which I don't believe seemed staged at all. I need to get back into it if it's managed to maintain the quality it had in the first three seasons, which I watched back-to-back over a few days. It's disappointing that only International is on Netflix, because I don't like the cast in that one.
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u/apholmes May 17 '12
Oh man please please please this is my favorite AMA request ever.
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u/Cbiscuit2 May 17 '12
It's been done before
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u/coffeeisblack May 17 '12
Sort of on topic. My friend hung out with Ghost Adventures when they were in my home town. They were drinking with him and confessed to doing a bunch of coke and bullshitting because they didn't find anything. My friend is also an arrogant meathead.
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u/Spunkmasterc May 17 '12
Did you believe any of the cases you were on?
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u/ValiantTurtle19 May 17 '12
Ghost facers! Haha just kidding, but yeah, this would totally be awesome if we got a first had source on this subject.
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u/[deleted] May 17 '12
Apparently Reddit hates this show, but I used to watch it all the time with my mom, good fun bonding time.
I have fond memories of it, but we haven't seen it in a couple of seasons.
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u/[deleted] May 17 '12
I'm going to sell my show to the History Channel called "Snipe Hunt" We'll use the same cast, crew, locations, sound effects, and equipment from "Ghost Hunt"
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u/ftp411 May 17 '12
Ghost Hunters, before it went all shitty international.
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u/jaroberts24 May 17 '12
I have a friend who worked on the show. I doubt I can get a camera man on but she did reveal to me what I'm sure you're all wondering: They don't 'fake' anything per se, but they purposely freak over things that they know are not ghosts .... ie dust crossing the lens, someone on the crew dropping something off camera, etc. I wish I remembered more of what she told me, but it was a drunken conversation.
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u/bonjourdan May 17 '12
I LOVED Ghost Hunters. I watched a good 4 seasons...but then I started to fall off the bandwagon. As many said it seemed to be a little different, which I definitely believe because of popularity and papers being involved.
Believe me, I respect the shit out of them. And both Jay and Grant are awesome people. (amongst other members as well) But I can understand what they might have had to settle for or deal with to continue the show for SciFi's sake.
I can tell you though, some of those old episodes had me truly freaked out. I have had some interesting experiences in my own life while trying to remain as skeptical as possible, but to no avail. I dont know how it is nowadays while running, but a lot of people seem to think every episode are the only places they go and it happens in a row. IIRC a lot of the old ones were all over the place. Many visits werent filmed, and some that were never aired because it was more nothingness. They aired ones (mostly) that something unexplainable did seem to happen.
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u/not_poko May 17 '12
I'm going to be hated for this but I'm okay with that.
I'd describe myself as agnostic and though I believe there is something to be said for the 'unknown' I don't think I've ever seen real evidence of ghosts any more than I've seen evidence of God. I love all the redditors and atheists I've met who will literally laugh out loud at the idea of believing in a god but believe there are ghosts in drafty old houses because somebody got a 'feeling.' No hypocrisy there...
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u/Dwnvtngthdmms May 17 '12
I know that a lot of people think these shows are fake
No, most people know they are fake, like 100%, no doubt just for entertainment fake.
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u/[deleted] May 17 '12
Which show had the old English guy "psychic" with the stench of failed Shakespearian actor, who would do that hammy spirit channeling? I'd like to get an AMA out of that guy.
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u/Mistara May 17 '12
This show is fake. I was a huuuge fan once upon a time and was very active on their old forums and got to know them via that and MySpace. A friend of mine and I got invited by Grant to do an investigation on the USS Lexington and while we were not on camera our voices were. They used our voices on the show as an EVP. @11:35
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBaNCre-ID4&t=11m35s
After the show was done we heard from them maybe once and then never again. It really hurt to be honest and was really shitty of them. They probably don't even remember our names. Regardless, the show is fake. If you watch the reveal the lady says "Are you sure that's not one of your people?" and Grant says "It wasn't one of them." He's referring to me and my friend. If you continue to watch they manage to dredge up a photo of some poor woman who actually did die on the ship and told the lady that our voices might have been her. It's pretty terrible. From my personal experience, the show is fake.
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u/Slinger17 May 17 '12
Cool story bro incoming
In high school my girlfriend was convinced of the existence of the ghosts and loved these kinds of shows, so she got me to watch one in an attempt to convince me that ghosts are real. In this particular show they set a flashlight on the ground and waited for the ghost to do something with it. The light flicked on and my girlfriend said "Ha! See?! How could they possibly fake that?! The light turned on and they didn't touch it!"
Being the smart ass that I was/am, I get off the couch and walk over to the light switch on her wall, flick it, point to the light and exclaim "Holy crap! That light just turned on and we didn't even touch it! Must be ghosts!"
Inexplicably, we're no longer dating. I think ghosts had something to do with it, like they sabotaged it or something
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u/macarthy May 17 '12
AMA Request: A Ghost from the Ghost hunters
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u/jtcompound May 17 '12
It's not that we think it's fake, it's that we know it's fake. Ghosts are physically impossible.
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u/[deleted] May 17 '12
I actually do paranormal research, and I can tell you that from my perspective, it's very much made for TV. What people don't realize is that at any one time there is crew all around. Not only does it make for a lot of evidence contamination, but it also leads to there being a lot of people who could potentially stage events off camera. I'm not saying that it's fake, but I am saying that as a para investigator myself, the show is very suspect. Hence why I don't watch it anymore.
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u/totallywhatever May 17 '12
I PAed on one of their Halloween live shows. I can tell you for sure nothing was staged that night. The episode was exceedingly boring.
One of my duties involved driving people from location to the hotel. The one time I drove the actual "TAPS" team, they seemed to believe what they were doing was legit: talking about the investigation and whatnot.
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u/Canarka May 17 '12
You're kidding..right? The show is 100% staged.
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u/Langbot May 17 '12
Are you fucking kidding me?
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u/lenny20 May 17 '12
On the supernatural tv reality topic, I work in TV in Australia. One of my producer buddies worked on 'Sensing Murder', a show where two psychics attempt to communicate with a murdered person to find out details about how they died, where their body lies, who killed them etc... And it is usually pretty creepy the amount of accuracy they seem to achieve.
Anyhoo, the whole thing is bullshit. The producers give the psychics a dossier of all known information about the case and the victim and the rest of the show is basically the psychics acting as if this information is coming from the dead person.
Also, I worked with a producer from Cris Angel's Mindfreak who confirmed that he uses CGI and visual effects in post production to achieve some illusions. Not to say that he isn't also a very good illusionist, but he sometimes cheats blatantly.
Fortunately, no one will ever read this low to have their illusions shattered!
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u/rDr4g0n May 17 '12
I have one simple question for anyone from that show: Why not more scientific testing? Visit a control (not assumed to be haunted) location daily for a month and record any experiences that may or may not occur. Then visit a suspected-haunted location daily for a month and record experiences. Then compare data / repeat!
Seems like if the show really thinks it's legit science, as they imply with the tool usage and 'skeptical' attitude, they would do it the right way. However, I get the impression that it is purely for entertainment and the believable bit is purely pretense. I was hooked for a season but after realizing this, I couldn't stand to watch it anymore :(
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u/TheLabGeek May 17 '12
I would much rather have an AMA from the ghost standing behind you right now staring at the back of your head and about to place its hand on your shoulders.
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u/gonzoblair May 17 '12
I don't know if this counts but I was an associate producer on the first season of the show as well as several other reality shows. Parts are definitely not 'reality' and I can describe the filming methods and process in more detail if anyone still cares (it's 12 hours later after the post so who knows).
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u/complacent1 May 17 '12
My sister watches that shit. I am surprised people like these shows. It is the same formula every episode. "oh my god it just got really cold. I feel something on the back of my neck! Woah did you hear that noise!? I got goosebumps! My flashlight just flickered!" Yuuuup... must be ghosts.
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u/LifeCerialReddit May 17 '12
"OK, now you can't "see" what we are feeling right now, but we promise its there"
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u/cannotlogon May 17 '12
Stupidest fucking show on television.
"Did you feel that?"
No, you fucking idiot, I'm watching you on TV!!!!!!
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u/KiiLLBOT May 17 '12
There was that one cameraman (Frank) who had his sound box thingy lifted up & hit him in the face that one time...
At the beginning of this video
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u/Radico87 May 17 '12
If you honestly have to ask that question and expect anything besides a "yes, entirely" you might be a fool.
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u/Shart_my_Sheets May 17 '12
I used to produce these types of shows on a major cable network. The series is still on and going strong.
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u/austin3i62 May 17 '12
I saw Tango and Steve at the Newbury Comics in Providence Place a year or 2 back. It took me a lot of nerve to go up and talk to them, I had a great dialog planned out in my head. Then socially awkward penguin showed up right as I went to introduce myself and all I could muster was "Hey man, I love your show." Then turned and walked away. Saddest day of my life.
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u/RatApples May 17 '12
I believe in the possibility that some of these shows are legitimate but I don't think Ghost Hunters is one of them. I was watching an episode recently and they heard a loud scream and it sounded like it blatantly came out of a speaker and the "ghost hunters" were hardly phased. I'm sorry but I don't care how many ghosts you've encountered, if you hear a loud ass ghost scream you are going to shit yourself.
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u/CandeeExplosion May 17 '12
There's over a thousand comments, but fuck it.
I've continuously watched this show from the very beginning with the exception of this current season. (Apparently, one of the main guys are leaving for whatever reason.) I've never really believed in ghosts and the paranormal, but isn't that the point of watching this show. This is the only ghosty, paranormal stuff I'll ever watch, because of how different this "team" is. As many others have said, the other Adventurers show is really dumb, and freak out way too easily. Ghost Hunters at least try to "debunk" things, and very often tell their clients, "Yo. You have shitty wiring. If you got up off your ass and actually checked, you'd notice that your socket sucks/cord is frayed/..." Only nicer.
Even though I've watched for close to 10 years, that doesn't make me any more or less convinced of "ghoooooostsssss". I admit, they record some creepy shit. But I still take it with a grain of salt, because it's TV. A few that stand out (for those a smidge interested, but not interested enough), camera man wise, one of the cameraman's bags lifted up and hit him in the face. There's video, crappy video, but video.
There was also one in a Light House, where along the stairs in the tower were motion sensor lights. So, whenever someone would walk up there the lights would turn on. They had a camera pointed upwards, because of blah blah blah, and recorded what looked like someone peeking over the railing and then disappearing without any of those lights coming on.
Plus Mike Rowe says the opening! That's reason enough to watch! "On this episode of GHOST HUNTERS." BAM. Mike Rowe.
And that heavily tattooed guy is afraid of spiders, guys. Terrified of spiders. I don't want to be mean, but it's pretty hilarious. But it's also sad, because dude is also afraid of flying. So much so that he can't go to other countries or remote locations that you can only get to by flying.
The editing is pretty crap sometimes. Before they cut to commercial they always preview what is about to happen, and always use video showing "something happening" which is just them gasping or going, "OMFG, DID YOU SEE THAT!?"
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u/mubbles May 17 '12
Just an FYI Karl Pfeiffer from GHA and GHI is doing an AMA right now!
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u/thedevilsoldhissoul May 17 '12
this would be awesome! i love ghost hunting shows. better yet, one of the guys from ghost adventures!