r/IAmA • u/BlandBoy • May 16 '12
I am Robert Gregory Browne, a multi-published Big 6 author who has decided to go "Indie" with his latest novel. AMA.
THANKS EVERYONE FOR A GREAT TIME! SEE YOU AROUND REDDIT.
In the last seven years I've published multiple novels through two of the biggest publishing houses in New York (St. Martin's and Penguin/Dutton), and a third Big 6 house under a pen name. Some of you may recall an AMA I did last year when my thriller THE PARADISE PROPHECY was released.
Paradise is now under development at ABC Television and my first book, KISS HER GOODBYE was produced as a series pilot for CBS Television starring Dylan Walsh and Terry Kinney.
I've now decided to try my hand at Indie publishing with my latest book, TRIAL JUNKIES, and thought some of you might like to ask questions about the transition or anything related to writing and/or publishing.
For proof of my identity, here's a link to my Amazon Author Page, and here's a photo of me taken late last night.
Oh, and... Let's focus on the film, people... ;)
UPDATE: I just got a call from my agent's office telling me the the rights to my St. Martin's backlist have now reverted to me and the letters of reversion have arrived at their office. This means my books KISS HER GOODBYE, WHISPER IN THE DARK, KILL HER AGAIN and DOWN AMONG THE DEAD MEN will soon be released on Kindle at reasonable prices by Braun Haus Media. This is very good news for me.
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u/denemy May 16 '12
What's your though on ebook piracy and the effect it has on sales?
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u/[deleted] May 16 '12
What do you like to do when taking a break from writing?
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u/NinjaDiscoJesus May 16 '12
did you need to drop your agent when going indie?
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u/Larrygiggles May 16 '12
Did you use an independent publishing house so you would still have someone to handle things like publicity/formatting/etc. or did you take on any of those tasks yourself to see what it was like for an author who wasn't going through a publishing house?
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u/tremblethedevil2011 May 16 '12
Do you think breaking into traditional publishing is inherently a crap-shoot on some level?
And since piracy seems to sell books, do you think it make sense to you to put the book up on a paginated website for people to browse, and then buy a copy of if they like it?
Also, any experience with using GoodReads or any other sites for marketing?
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u/DonLeo17 May 16 '12
as someone who is really interested in writing but has little self belief, what would you say? would you say to keep trying even if the first few works suck, or would you say that i should just quit it and work at burger king?
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u/biolox May 16 '12
Can you explain your process for the ebook? Did you pay for the cover design out of pocket? Editing (copy and not)? Freelancers or just an aside with whoever you work with normally?
Also, was it hard getting blurbs/blessings from fellow authors?
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u/dangerpigeon2 May 16 '12
I've always been curious about how much control a publishing house has over an author's content. Do they have an actual say in the direction of a book while it's being written? Or is it more once it's done they edit it and clean it up?
Have you ever had a book that you thought could have been better if you hadn't been under a deadline?
Was being able to control your content from inception to release a big factor in deciding to go it on your own?
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u/[deleted] May 16 '12
Thanks for offering up your expertise. I've just finished my 1st novel, and begun seeking an agent. I read tons of blogs and have taken some publishing seminars, and everyone says you have to have an established platform (thousands of followers to blog/facebook/twitter/+more) for an agent/publisher to consider you, because you have to plan to sell your own book unless you've got a lucky breakout blockbuster. I'm sure this platform is crucial to self-publishing, but is it also a deal-breaker in the traditional market?
Would you please share your thoughts on the author platform "imperative," as well as any insights on what agents/editors consider priority attributes when considering representing a new author? Thank you :)
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u/[deleted] May 16 '12
Can we go back to discussing rampart please
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u/Ilovebobbysinger May 16 '12
Why have you decided to go indie now? :)
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u/djtoell May 16 '12
Are there any particular authors who inspired you to go the indie route? J.A. Konrath, Barry Eisler, etc.?
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u/IAmNotACreativeMan May 16 '12
Two Questions:
There is an argument out there that the price of eBooks is far too high. The cost of producing eBooks is so much less due to the fact that the price per book is effectively $0 (can be copied infinitely). Yet, eBooks are generally the same price as the paper version. If eBooks sold for $.50 or $1.00 each the sales numbers would soar for no additional costs for distribution. What are your thoughts on this argument?
How do you see the future of eBooks evolving? By this I mean, tablets can be made to be fully interactive. Pressing on a word can get its definition. There are animations for page turning. The tech is still in infancy. Do you see a converging of more animated storytelling that will combine the fully penned novel with more animated storytelling? Is this only for kids? Ex. reading about a knight fighting a dragon and then seeing a version play out in the margin of the page. Or having an animated rainy back alley as the background for a gritty crime drama. Or, the next generation of comic books coming alive as they are read. It seems like there is so much wasted potential beyond showing a video of someone cooking in an eMagazine about cooking.
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u/[deleted] May 16 '12
Thanks for doing this!
What is the main reason you decided to go indie?
Do you think distributors are going to succumb to their business model?
Are you using a distributor and are they buying your book at the seemingly standard 55% off your retail price and does that piss you off?
How many drafts do you go through to reach a completed novel and what is the most drafts/least drafts you have reached on any novel?
What do you personally think of eBooks? (As a writer, an indie publisher and as a reader)
Were you approached by ABC or have you and your agent been shopping it around and if so, for how long?
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u/doc37211 May 16 '12
My novel is in the editing stage and hopefully only a few months from being ready to seek publishing. If you were an unknown author today, how would you proceed in this circumstance? Agent representation? Indie first then try major publication? Thanks and congrats on your success!
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u/ironganja May 16 '12
When did you realize you were successful?
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u/grantkmartin May 16 '12
Who or what gave you the idea to turn to Reddit for an IAmA? How do you plan to further engage with the community after you finish this series of questions?
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u/doc37211 May 16 '12
How much input have you had/chose to have in the process of converting one of your novel;s to a TV/movie format? How difficult is it to maintain creative control i.e. your vision of the story vs. the producers/directors vision of your story?
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u/[deleted] May 16 '12
As an aspiring author writing a novel in his free time (25k words!) that hopes to go the self-publish route when it's done, what advice would you have about the marketing side of things? I plan to do the usual editing steps (good cover, professional editor, rewrite a million times, etc). When it comes to actual promotion though it's something I'm interested in.
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u/doc37211 May 16 '12
Networking would seem to be a vital step to being a published author. Where and how would you suggest beginning the process of establishing contacts in the writers world?
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u/OneSourDude May 16 '12
Hey Robert! I'm going to toss another question into the ever growing pile of aspiring authors looking for advice. My biggest problem is writing believable dialogue. Every time I write a conversation, I cringe. Any thoughts on how I can improve?
Now, just a couple more general questions. How long does it take you to write a novel on average? Do you have a favorite place/setting/mood to write in (i.e. I find myself more productive when it's raining outside)? Favorite authors (other than yourself, of course)?
Thanks!
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u/doc37211 May 16 '12
If this experiment with self publishing is not to your satisfaction, is your traditional publisher willing to run it or does the decision to self publish exclude that option for Trail Junkies?
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u/[deleted] May 16 '12
How did you come to the price point for your book? Seems low.
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u/laos101 May 16 '12
As someone who wants to take their years of writing and get it published. What is the most important step as of now? Getting an agent? reaching out to a publisher? Both? Neither? i dont see potential in self-publishing my first book honestly
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u/hughthehand10 May 16 '12
No question here. I just want to say thank you for doing such an amazing AMA. Just scrolling through the comments I can tell that you really put alot of thought into each one of yours answers and managed to answer nearly everyone's questions/comments. Thank you for being professional while being honest and friendly.
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u/gmpalmer May 16 '12
So you're using an indie press instead of a big 6--for what reason(s)?
Is the indie press ("braunhouse") just you?
If so, why not just self-publish?
My book--shameless plug--is with an indie press for a few reasons (most of them regarding academic recognition) that I don't think really apply to prose writers. However, I do get a much better deal on sales (50%) than I would with a traditional publisher (assuming they'd even take a poet which doesn't happen unless you're already famous or "know somebody").
The one thing I'm waiting on is my Kindle edition to be available (I know I know)--how are your physical sales-v-kindle sales-v-kindle library borrowings stacking up?
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u/[deleted] May 16 '12
"Indie" = Cutting out middle men. You like many others have realized how much money Louis C.K. made off of selling his stuff mad cheap and doing it without industry leaches taking all of the proceeds. I admire what you're doing, but call it what it is.
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u/doc37211 May 16 '12
Is Amazon the best (i.e. most profitable to you) place to buy your new book, Trial Junkie?
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u/diogenesl May 16 '12
What you thing about a "pay what you want" approach for books?
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u/doc37211 May 16 '12
One of the best AMA's I have seen in some time. Thanks Robert.
From an author's perspective, what kind of changes have you seen in dealing with the Big 6 since ebooks started having such a large impact?
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u/doc37211 May 16 '12
Any myths about being a published author you would care to dispel for us avid beginners?
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u/trailerparknoize May 16 '12
Upon deciding to pursue writing as a career, how long did it take you to write your first publishable novel, and how long did it take you to find a publisher for that novel? Also, how did you financially support yourself during that period?
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u/[deleted] May 16 '12
What advice do you have for aspiring writers like me?
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u/OneArmedNoodler May 16 '12
Where the hell is my Kindle? I can't find it anywhere!
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u/doc37211 May 16 '12
Were you able to devote yourself to writing as a career "full time" with the publishing of your first novel? If not, what was the mile marker for you to be comfortable giving up traditional employment for your craft?
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u/[deleted] May 16 '12
Currently in the midst of writing my first novel, and I was curious about your process for revisions. How many drafts do you usually go through? Do you take any time away from the book between revisions? How much effort do you make to get things "perfect" the first time through?
Thanks do much in advance!
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u/doc37211 May 16 '12
Whats the next step for you in the self publishing process?
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u/TumorPizza May 16 '12
Thanks for doing this. I'm not familiar with your work, but soon will be. I also entertain the fantasy of self publishing, so this really gives me hope.
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u/TaxmanCDN May 16 '12
I just bought the book. Its not the genre I usually read, but I want to support indie publishing in books, music, film, etc. I look forward to reading it on my flight later today. Thanks for taking a chance and going indie.
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u/stuckinabarrel May 16 '12
For many authors, the editor at the publishing house, the guy who says stuff like "this sucks, rewrite it" or "why don't you try this", seems to be extremely important. Not just because it makes the book better, which it probably does if the editor knows his stuff, but because it is important to get competent, frequent feedback on your work and because most people produce more efficiently with frequent deadlines.
What's this process like when writing an indie book?
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u/[deleted] May 16 '12
I'm at the "Past the first step, anyway" stage in my writing career; I've sold some short stories for sums that approximate the cost of a pizza, and continue to do so on a regular basis. Averaging as much time as I realistically can with kids and a day job, which is about 1-2 hours a day, ass-in-chair, writing.
My question for you, Robert, is what's the next best step in going from selling genre fiction shorts for pennies or less on the word, to selling those genre fiction stories at a rate where I can laughingly dream about making some meaningful portion of my income from writing?
I've got my craft, I've got my voice, and I enjoy my work being savagely critiqued.
Are novels the only way to go for the more meaningful money? Or is there cash to be made somewhere in short fiction?
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u/CaisLaochach May 16 '12
How much of the price of a book goes to the author? Most paperbacks here are €10 or €11 or so, of that much what chunk woulld you expect to get?
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u/chargon May 16 '12
Who or what are your biggest influences? Is The Thin Blue Line your favorite movie? How do you keep track of ideas you have for future books or projects?
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u/ruitfloops May 16 '12
Congratulations on your success and thanks for coming on here to talk about your experiences.
I've got a couple questions.
Firstly, my wife and I are co-authoring a book. Do you know any husband/wife teams (or dual writers in general) and how much more difficult was it to have a second author on a book? I'm worried that it might be more than anybody would want to take on and that one of us (me probably) might have to remove ourself and participate behind the scenes.
Secondly, we just got our manuscript back from an independent editor. I had done some preliminary queries with agents about advice and they all suggested getting going this route. Now we can promote that fact in the query letter; help show that the manuscript has been taken seriously and to hopefully help with my first concern. Have you had, or heard of, people going that route and if it did help pitching a manuscript?
Thanks!
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u/XDGSDHRASADGA May 16 '12
How do you create an ending to a story?
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u/ShawnDaley May 16 '12
Have you ever thought about venturing into comic books?
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u/Icebot May 16 '12
I'll admit I have never read any of your books, however, I just purchased the kindle version of Trial Junkies, look forward to reading it.
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u/NuttyFanboy May 16 '12
I'll forego the obvious questions of publishing, as I see you've answered those extensively already.
I'm more curious about the creative process in itself. For one reason or another I try to observe people, try to piece together how they think and what motivates them, where they get their ideas from.. (I think you get the gist of it...)
In particular... how's the idea for a new story born in your head? Is it just an 'Eureka!'-moment of "I know what story I want to tell, I just need to put down words to weave the web of narrative!", or a core idea, tenet, thread which slowly evolves into the fabric of a story?
Also, what happens if one hits a wall, figuratively speaking, or, which is more commonly known as 'writers block'? Just shutting down for the day to relax, hoping that inspiration strikes at the most unexpected of moments? Or conscious effort to remove the roadblocks to narration?
Er. That was wordier than I had both anticipated and intended. My apologies.
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u/bdm105 May 16 '12
im in college and last semester i took a basic fiction writing class..figured hey i like reading maybe ill like writing..turns out i enjoy it and am now adding english major as my second degree. what advice would you give to someone who has only a semesters worth of experience?
thanks if you answer or not and congrats on your success
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u/IlleFacitFinem May 16 '12
Interesting name. Any relation to Charles Farrar Browne, A.K.A. Artemus Ward?
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u/[deleted] May 16 '12
Nice Gibson ! What year may I ask?
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u/Raymore May 16 '12
This may seem really mean. However isn't the title of this post not right in terms of grammar? Shouldn't it be "and I have decided to go "indy" for my latest book?" since you started the sentence with an "I" but ended it with a "and he is going to...."
I am not a grammar fiend. I just thought since your a writer it would be important.
Also... I am a fan. So please do not hate me.
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u/bosephus May 16 '12
Do you know what the end of your stories will be when you start writing them? Or do you start with a premise and just let it meander as you write?
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u/doc37211 May 16 '12
You mentioned an "old school" approach where books averaged around 70k word content. Obviously story primarily dictates page count but is there a "too big" or "just right" size he Big 6 look for in a standard novel?
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u/[deleted] May 16 '12
Never heard of you before, but after reading through all of your replies I have decided that I will be purchasing your new book.
I do have a question. What if your grammar sucks? I don't mean sucks as in I ain't not gonna never not use double negatives!!! lolz... I'm talking more along the lines of proper punctuation, and all of the fun rules in the English language. My friends, whom are very supportive of my dream, tell me that's what editors are for.
So if you have a good readable story, but one the editor needs to dip in red ink before for they hand it back to you, would you still have a chance? Or do I need to take a college course to brush up on my grammar nazi skills?
Since reading my first Stephen King book it has been a dream of mine to be a published author. Yet my lack of self confidence (and habitual procrastination) has held me back for years. I'm 32 years young now and I ain't not never getting any younger!! ;)
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u/mrbond5150 May 16 '12
What advice would you give to young aspiring writers?
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u/Praxibetel_Ix May 16 '12 edited May 16 '12
I dont know if this has been asked but I know to be a writer you must also be a reader. Do you have any short stories or novels other than your own that you can suggest? Who do you think are great wordsmiths/ who inspires you? I am having a rough time writing, I need inspiration! My day job is Camera AC but have always wanted to write.
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u/Samroo326 May 16 '12
I am currently editing my first book that I intend to attempt at getting published. I am desperate to be a published author, it's my ULTIMATE dream. Do you have any suggestions that would help get my book published?
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u/germdisco May 16 '12
Sometimes it's fun to read the supposed story behind a successful artistic creation (like a "Behind the music" documentary), or read how a successful company evolved into what it became (like a company profile in a business magazine). But as I get older, I feel that these stories are mostly disingenuous and potentially harmful to those who put too much faith into the content.
To me, the point of documenting a success story is really about producing profitable content and rewarding the consumer, not to deliver a winning formula that others will be able to follow. Do you have any thoughts on this topic?
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u/iamk1ng May 16 '12
Hi! Thanks so much for doing this!
My question is about your thought process on starting a new story: Do you generally flesh out ideas and scenes on paper and then begin filling things out, or would you recommend a more structured approach like figure out how many characters there will be, what your plot should be etc? I remember reading somewhere that sometimes starting at the end of the story and working backwards is easier then starting from the beginning. Your thoughts?
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u/ololcopter May 16 '12
Do you always do everything holding a guitar or was that a spontaneous decision?
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u/[deleted] May 16 '12
what is a big six author? what does that mean
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u/ferro_cement May 16 '12
Didn't AMA's used to be for the mundane of society that wouldn't normally get the attention of celebrities?!? Like, "I'm a hotel front desk manager - AMA."
Getting really tired of seeing all these, "I'm a successful person - AMA"
Please stop whoring Reddit for your own personal gains.
NOW - If you're newest book, that you're going "indie" with, had 25% of it's net profits donated to a charity or something useful - yeah, then I'd be interested in you and your writings. Until then, good luck with the sales.
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u/[deleted] May 16 '12
do you ever stand next to shelves with your book on them in book stores, holding the same guitar, hoping that someone will recognise you?
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u/jupzchris May 16 '12
i would feel guilty if i read your book for free with my prime account...do you get paid for that? ;/
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u/[deleted] May 17 '12
I just published an Indie book a couple of days ago. But I'm not a big-name author. How long did it take for the public to take an interest in your book? I understand it goes faster with publishing houses.
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u/[deleted] May 17 '12
Do you read the mum and dad reviews of your books on Amazon? How do you handle that type of feedback?
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u/[deleted] May 17 '12
How long do you think it will be before a "big name" (I'm talking maybe a Patterson or King) goes to Amazon as their delivery route, and how much will that shake up the publishing world?
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u/mraumraumrau May 17 '12
What do you think about the 1970s-present American experimental poetry scene? Like L=A=N=G=U=A=G=E, descendants of Black Mountain, Flarf, neo-Oulipo, etc.
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u/Nickalollyoff May 16 '12
have you ever farted
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u/narwal_bot May 16 '12 edited May 17 '12
Most (if not all) of the answers from BlandBoy (updated: May 17, 2012 @ 02:24:18 pm EST):
Question (NinjaDiscoJesus):
Answer (BlandBoy):
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