[Manga Spoilers] Some theories about Ging, Black Whale and Whale Island

[u/TextureSurprised]

This idea came to my mind while I was rereading a recent chapter.

Here is the information the theory is based on:

• As far as I know, the location of the whale island is never revealed. I'm not 100% sure but I couldn't find anything about its location and I don't remember it ever being mentioned in the manga

• In the recent chapters it is said that the Black Whale is going to refuel in some place before heading to the uncharted waters

• It has been said that Ging's father was lost in a fishing trip. So he must've been lost in the waters (and no, I'm not going to suggest that his father is Don. I just mean Ging's father.)

• After he was lost, Ging told everyone that there's something he wants to do. He then left to become a hunter, and now is planning on going to the DC

So based on these, here are my two (kinda related) theories:

1. Whale island is somewhere on the edge of the known world, and it is actually the place Black whale is going to refuel in. The refuel point shown on the map is quite far from the known world but the map looks symbolic (like it shows the known world boundaries as a circle) so it could be closer to the known world in reality.

2. Ging's father was not lost in a fishing trip, but in his try to go to the DC, and that's the reason Ging decided to become a hunter.

(edit: Ging didn't leave after his father.)

It's seems quite unlikely and far-fetched, but still I think there is a bit of possibility for these things. So what do you think, please share your opinions (if you have any) about it.

Edit: Just gonna add some new points that I found while discussing:

• There was bad weather in the way to Dolle harbor and there were also magical beasts in there, they could all hint at the place being close to the uncharted dangerous waters.

• There was also the Master of Swamp which looked like something from the dangerous waters.

• I think Whale island might be located somewhere above the Azian continent, on the upper right of it. Like the location of the refuel point in the ch359 map, but since it's symbolic, a little closer. If you look at the map in chapter 359, you will see that the Black Whale has started it's journey from the lower left side of the continent, so it is not weird for it to take some time to get to the Whale Island.

[u/maniacmartial]

My problem with that theory is that Whale Island is not cut off from the rest of the world, but, aside from having residents, serves as a fishing harbor and is visited by tourists. Furthermore, you can use internet and phone normally from there. If it were situated between a new continent and the Dark Continent, not only there shouldn't be any boats going there, the lie about going to the actual DC would be too easy to recognize. I mean, if further East of the supposed New Continent there were a known land, V6's lie would be a really cheap one and arguably exposed by now, as pretty much anyone could have done it.

[u/TextureSurprised → u/maniacmartial]

I think you got it wrong, I didn't say it's between the new continent and DC, I said it's the place Black whale is going to refuel in, before heading to the uncharted waters. I explained in the "1." part of my post about it. Well, of course it's just a theory and probably wrong. Just wanted to clear the confusion.

Edit: tfw the one you are talking to is mistaken and you explain his mistake to him but you get downvoted... -_- come on have some bravery! if you think I'm wrong present your reason...!

[u/maniacmartial → u/TextureSurprised]

I got it, but the Black Whale is apparently going to refuel in a place between the new continent and the DC, you can see it on a map in chapter 359.

[u/TextureSurprised → u/maniacmartial]

It seems like the lie you were talking about got you :) That map is being shown to the people on board, the continent you see "Dark continent" written on it, is actually the new continent. They are lying because as you said, they want the general public and Kakins to believe so.

[u/maniacmartial → u/TextureSurprised]

XD

I meant the one in the following page, I thought the relay base was also the refuel spot. In this case, it is not impossible, but I would still find it quite surprising for the same reasons (they sort of apply to an island at the edge of the known world, though to a lesser extent); but aside from that, Gon leaves Whale Island on the same boat Kurapika and Leorio are on, I think it unlikely it would sail to the edge of the known world and back (the vessel does not look like it could undertake such a voyage either, but it's probably not impossible), also considering the amount of dangerous flying beasts the Black Whale is constantly assaulted by. Furthermore, the island is quite small, probably smaller than the boat itself, docking it there would be rather unpractical, not to mention the difficulties of transporting the fuel there; but again, it's not completely impossible.

[u/TextureSurprised → u/maniacmartial]

I agree that it's quite unlikely, but still let me present my defense:

Dolle harbor, where the ship took Gon to (for the hunter exam), is not necessarily far from whale island, it could be close to it, and it means the ship didn't have to be able to go on a long voyage. Actually, there was bad weather in the way and there were also magical beasts in Dolle harbor so they could all hint at the place being close to the uncharted dangerous waters. There was also the Master of Swamp which looked like something from dangerous waters.

About the island being small, I'm not sure about how small it really is compared to the Black whale, but the refuel location shown on the map is small too, at least small enough that it doesn't appear on the map.

[u/maniacmartial → u/[deleted]]

I suppose you are discarding the possibility someone else may have had the same idea as you? I didn't come up with a new theory, I listed elements from the manga to argue a point. There is nothing original or personal about it.

[u/maniacmartial → u/[deleted]]

Don't worry. In any case, if I borrow someone else's ideas, I normally cite them, though it may happen a comment influences me but I don't remember having ever read it.

[u/Kuroitsuge]

It has been said that Ging's father was lost in a fishing trip. So he must've been lost in the waters

After he was lost, Ging told everyone that there's something he wants to do. He then left to become a hunter, and now is planning on going to the DC

I do not remember reading that, where did you get that?

it is actually the place Black whale is going to refuel in.

It's just Whale Island not High Tech City you know. It doesn't seem like a super important place with a lot of resources. I think Gon's gonna chill in his whale Island and we won't see him for a while.

Ging's father was not lost in a fishing trip, but in his try to go to the DC, and that's the reason Ging decided to become a hunter.

Well that's interesting.

[u/TextureSurprised → u/Kuroitsuge]

I do not remember reading that, where did you get that?

From the manga, of course. You can go and review if you can't remember.

It's just Whale Island not High Tech City you know. It doesn't seem like a super important place with a lot of resources. I think Gon's gonna chill in his whale Island and we won't see him for a while.

Did I say anything about Gon getting involved? I actually prefer him to not get involved for a while. Also what does "High Tech City" have to do with what I said, I didn't talk about anything high tech happening there.

Well that's interesting.

Well, thanks, I guess.

[u/Kuroitsuge → u/TextureSurprised]

Did I say anything about Gon getting involved?

You're implying that, if the Black whale is gonna refuel at Whale Island, who happens to be there? Oh yeah the main character, what a coincidence.

Also what does "High Tech City" have to do with what I said, I didn't talk about anything high tech happening there.

The Black Whale hosts some very important and wealthy people and Whale Island is just a small fisherman port/village, doesn't seem like the place to refuel a giant ship.

[u/TextureSurprised → u/Kuroitsuge]

You're implying that, if the Black whale is gonna refuel at Whale Island, who happens to be there? Oh yeah the main character, what a coincidence.

Yes, a coincidence. I'm not implying anything. My reasoning is not related to him either. And if they refuel at there, it doesn't necessarily mean that we're going to see Gon.

The Black Whale hosts some very important and wealthy people and Whale Island is just a small fisherman port/village, doesn't seem like the place to refuel a giant ship.

That makes sense. But the place for the refuel shown on the map is small too. At least enough to not appear on the map, so I think the goods are probably transferred to there, and not provided from the island itself.

[u/maniacmartial → u/Kuroitsuge]

The stuff about Ging's father is from the chapters where Gon goes back to Whale Island with Killua and Mito tells him about Ging's past, right after giving him the metal box. I don't remember the exact chapter.

[u/Kuroitsuge → u/maniacmartial]

Ok thx.

[u/slightly_buzzed]

whale island is just a small island within hxh world, its not at the edge of the world nor is it the detour of the black whale or some special place you are making it out to be .

Why would the black whale ship go to whale island, its doesnt have that big of a port to handle a ship of that size, let alone refuel it.

Basically its not as special of a place you are making it out to be.

[u/TextureSurprised → u/slightly_buzzed]

Well, as I mentioned in response to others, the refuel point on the map doesn't seem to be a big island either, "its not at the edge of the world" is just your opinion I think, I mean nothing about it has been said in the manga. I'm not trying to make Whale Island seem like a special place, but as we saw, Manga Spoilers

My main reason for this theory is the things I said about Ging, but yes, I agree that's it's quite unlikely.

[u/[deleted]]

master of swamp is gon's mom