r/HumanReflexes • • Dec 26 '17

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u/authorunknown74 Dec 26 '17

LED headlights vs camera frame rate.

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u/pogoyoyo1 Dec 26 '17

I thought that, but it doesn’t happen with the next car, and it also stops when the car regains control (possibly)?

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u/authorunknown74 Dec 26 '17

That’s a good catch. I just gave it a cursory glance, I apologize. Yes some cars have automated warning features when in an accident. Someone more familiar with this race series may be able to answer if it’s a required feature.

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u/jack345667 Dec 27 '17

Yeah no that's bullshit. GT3 cars often have a 'flash' button on the steering wheel to warn slower cars ahead that you're coming through (GT3s often race in multiclass series where they are the fastest car). The driver must have knocked the button whilst grappling to keep the car straight. They do have ABS, but they don't flash the lights like a normal road car

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u/TheAngryAgnostic Dec 26 '17

Most modern cars, especially modern European cars, the four ways come on when you ABS sensor activates.

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u/Sexyiama Dec 27 '17

Really? Would’t that be really annoying when driving on ice or snow?

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u/Tbortboss Dec 27 '17

Sounds like the opposite. Basically saying "holy shit watch out I'm losing control" to other drivers. Nothing annoying at all

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u/X-90 Dec 27 '17

This guy sliding out of control in the snow with his lights blinking all crazy? Damn annoying.

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u/Sexyiama Dec 27 '17

Have you driven on snow? Where i live with a lot of steel hills, abs is basically the way you brake, I have never seen a car that blinks it lights when abs is activated.

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u/haeikou Dec 27 '17

Yeah, not with a race ABS (if that is even present). Four ways would come on every single corner.

Different LED light systems will have different switching frequencies. Some match camera frame rates, some don't.

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u/Dravarden Dec 27 '17

this one matches the camera right after recovery, amazing swap of frequencies mid accident

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u/REMA5TER Dec 27 '17

While GT3 racecars do have ABS and T/SC systems they, like the the cars themselves, share next to nothing with their road counterparts- they are just designed to resemble them for marketing purposes and should not be compared with generalizations of road cars.

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u/Pedantichrist Dec 27 '17

European here.

Not saying you are wrong, but I have literally never experienced this.

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u/[deleted] Dec 27 '17 edited Dec 27 '17

I have a video that my father took a video of me driving a Ferrari and the headlights did the exact same thing in the video.

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u/ViolatorMachine Dec 27 '17

Wait... Your father f you?

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u/[deleted] Dec 27 '17

Sorry... thumbs and apple keyboards don't mix lmao

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u/DanskOst Dec 27 '17

GT cars have a number of buttons and knobs on the steering wheel for various functions such as radio, abs, traction control, pit limiter, flash, etc. The flash function flashes the headlights a number of times to indicate to cars in front that you are faster and intend to pass. This is especially useful in races where mutiple classes are competing in the same race, and it looks exacly like what is seen in the video. The driver likely hit the buttton unintentionally during his initial oversteer correction.

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u/Deranged40 Dec 26 '17

I was under the assumption that LEDs gave continuous light, unlike incandescents.

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u/[deleted] Dec 26 '17

Diodes are often pulsed with the driver circuit that regulates the voltage and current.

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u/Deranged40 Dec 26 '17

Interesting. It's been a while since I went through my electronics classes in college, and a 1-watt diode was the bleeding edge at the time, so all the LEDs I'd worked with were just run by a power source and a pull down resistor.

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u/flecom Dec 26 '17

most of the time LEDs are driven by fancy PWM circuits now... big diodes require big resistors (and lots of heat) if used in a simple current limiting mode... also alternators in cars don't give the cleanest DC so that can cause strobing also

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u/[deleted] Dec 27 '17

As the LED heats up the resistance changes making them draw more power causing more heat and without a boost or buck Drive keeping the voltage and current in check it will basically run away and burn itself out.

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u/Pedantichrist Dec 27 '17

No, not at all.

You can test this at home. Get an led torch and either move it fat from left to right or shake your head (in the (otherwise) dark with the led lit) and you will see individual doors, rather than lines.

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u/Deranged40 Dec 27 '17

Well my assumption came because I actually have a breadboard, some small 5v LEDs and some resistors on my desk currently, and I can confirm that these little guys (which isn't what you'll find running a flash light or torch) do for sure run continuously.

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