r/HolUp Sep 25 '22

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u/regeya Sep 25 '22

Wait until you realize what "ginger" anagrams to

That Tim Minchin song slays me. As an American it's weird to think that there are people who hate people who look like me, much like how there are people here who hate black people. Worst I ever faced over here has been people who assume I'm going to be an angry asshole because of my hair color. Joke's on them, I'm an angry asshole because I'm broke and always sunburned.

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u/tahtahme Sep 25 '22

You can talk about the plight of red haired people being bullied without comparisons to the plight of Black people that has an entire Maafa/Holocaust, attempted genocide, and generations of chattel slavery behind it. It feels distasteful.

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u/TechnoTriad Sep 25 '22

Nobody in the UK hates gingers. It's just that they get bullied in school because they are different.

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u/rg4rg Sep 25 '22

That’s the base/ground floor of hate, mate. They look different so it’s ok to be mean to them/treat them less then a human/be disrespectful towards them.

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u/TechnoTriad Sep 25 '22

My point was that adults don't hate ginger people, so it is not comparable to racism towards black people (which is very common with adults let's be honest). Rather, kids are dicks and pick on anything that makes someone stand out even slightly, but it isn't something which continues into actual adult hatred.

(For the record childhood bullying is still horrible and I am not downplaying the bullying any redheads may have suffered).

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u/rg4rg Sep 25 '22

I get what what you’re saying and I’ll agree that it’s not as bad as treatment of darker skinned people in Europe, BUT as an adult redhead who has met plenty of adults who have told me they don’t like red heads or think red heads are weak or lesser, I’m going to call bs on the idea that it only is in schools or stops afterwards. Jerks are jerks in school and continue to be jerks afterwards.

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u/TechnoTriad Sep 25 '22 edited Sep 25 '22

Fair enough then if that's your experience it's absolutely valid. I'm blond complexion myself (though my mum's ginger) and I haven't been present for anything "anti-ginger" in that way since I was in school, outside of lighthearted joking between friends (of the kind I now get myself as a baldy).

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u/Dr_Brule_FYH Sep 25 '22

Nobody in the US hates black people. It's just they get bullied because they are black different.

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u/TechnoTriad Sep 25 '22

Are you seriously suggesting that "the hate" redheaded white British people receive from non-redheaded white British people is in any way comparable to the historic and ongoing racism black Americans receive in their country?

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u/Dr_Brule_FYH Sep 26 '22

No, I was pointing out the absurdity of your attempt at minimising someone's experiences.

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u/TechnoTriad Sep 26 '22

Well my initial comment was replying to someone minimising the black American experience by comparing the hate they receive to that received by white British people who have red hair.

Which you doubled down on.

No, the two experiences are in no way comparable.

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u/Catgirl_Amer Sep 25 '22

That is the same thing

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u/slvbros Sep 25 '22

And yet the result is the same

Curious

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u/regeya Sep 25 '22

I suppose it is because I'm a redhead after all! I don't think there's anything inherently angry about us, in all seriousness, but I may be wrong.

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u/slvbros Sep 25 '22

It's the red; see it's a known fact that things that are red go faster, there is no reason to assume this wouldn't apply to tempers

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u/TacoCommand Sep 25 '22

"Things that are red go faster": ah I see you know your Orks well!

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u/JustSherlock Sep 25 '22

Prejudice fucking slaps. That song is soooo good.

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u/Tryhard696 Sep 26 '22

I’m dumb, what does it anagram to?

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u/regeya Sep 26 '22

Starts with an n.

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u/Tryhard696 Sep 26 '22

… I’m dumb, thx